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@sasss31 @FundaMentalist @DoctorChris
That's a load of bollocks - how is the situation in Afghanistan better? They're trading one warlord for another.
And how are the current Afghani government any less "Islamic" than the Taliban version? And I swear, if you say, "well, they can shave their beards now", then you are exposing a glaring lack of understanding in Islamic politics of the region.
1 year ago on Conversation @ http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/04/23/why_do_they_hate_us
@sasss31 @KareemAnNajm @MalihehBanoo
"Islam under the Quran allows the raping of non-Muslims in multiple ways"
Can we please stop perpetuating this nonsense? Rape is a CAPITAL crime in Islam. Yes, Muslim armies commit rapes and other war crimes (you know, like any other armies). But that is the point - each and every religion and nation-state has its share of bad apples.
With your logic, torture of prisoners is allowed under American law, on the basis that someone had done it, therefore it must be accepted de jure.
@sasss31 @FundaMentalist @DoctorChris Let's not get ridiculous. "Fascism" is the marriage between business and totalitarian system of government. Italy under Mussolini is fascist. Germany under Nazis are fascist.
Afghanistan, on the other hand, doesn't even have a credible government.
Yes, elements of extremism do occur in Malaysia. It also occurs elsewhere in the world, and is not restricted only to Muslims.
"i would suggest that it is the presence of highly politicized islamists waging war against everyone and everything insufficiently islamic that leads to dictatorship, suffering and instability, not the other way around."
Tell that to the Iranians. Tell them how Project Ajax occured after the Islamic Revolution. Of course, history would beg to differ.
Or perhaps you would like to take Iraq, where the conditions went bad when Saddam, a secular leader, took power?
@PuneetMadaan @KareemAnNajm @MalihehBanoo"so called Moderate Muslims are choosey regarding which part of sharia is to be introduced, and others are fighting for full implementation of sharia"
So you have a problem with moderate Muslims trying to moderate their religion? Just how hypocritical can you get? You pointificate about Saudi Arabia's obsession with following everything to the letter, but when Malaysians try to weed out the more extreme elements, suddenly it's "oh no, this is still bad, but I don't know why this is bad"
As for child custody laws, nice outdated source you have there. Here's a more recent one:
"In its purely legal sense, the Court would just look into the positions and opinions of the respective parent and what each party can offer to give the best to the child in terms of financial, physical and emotional support. If the child is able to profess his or her independent opinion on which parent he or she chooses to be with, this will also be taken into account by the Court before deciding on who is granted custody of the said child."
"What I said is that Moslems lie to non-Moslems in order to present a positive image of Islam."
Americans lie to non-Americans in order to present a positive image of America. The Vatican lie to non-Catholics in order to present a positive image of Catholicism.
I dare you to tell me that the sentence above are not true. If you cannot, can you then explain why it's suddenly "bad" when some Muslims do it?
"Christians and Jews criticize elements of their religions all the time. Moslems never do."
Can you tell me which Islamic theological publication did you read? Or are you saying that Muslims don't debate and criticize elements of their own religion because you never heard of it?
First of all, let us be completely honest here - the lot of women, in general, in the Middle East, is quite sorry indeed. Cultural and religious influences plus staggering political instability does not lend to an environment where human rights are at the forefront of everyone's minds.
On the other hand, let's not go overboard with crass generalizations and frankly, disgustingly bigoted "world"view. Not all Muslim-majority countries are in a state where women have to get four witnesses, don a burqa and cannot drive a car. Funnily enough, countries where things like that are prevalent also happen to be either under a brutal dictatorship, suffering from the effects of an ongoing military conflict, or both.
What I am trying to say is, if I overthrow the Swedish government, and subjected the populace to conditions akin to Afghanistan, we will see Norse extremists beheading women to appease Odin. Environmental factors often influence religion, not the other way round.
@LyndawithaY @rehanakn @amerihiker Ah, selective reading of the holy texts plus un-contextualized analysis of current events.
"Research" is not exactly your strong point?
@LyndawithaY @Abdul Ameer Oh God, the stupidity of these posts are staggering. Apparently, all Muslims are warlike because they do bad things (no one's denying, for example, that there have been attacks by Muslim separatists in Pattaya), but apparently asking WHY they are attacking is beyond the ken of these FP "intellectuals".
I especially like how you guys quote one guy out of nowhere and say, "see, this is what all Muslims believe". It's like me quoting Brevik and say, "see, this is what all Norwegians believe"
@LyndawithaY @sam005 Lawless, war-torn countries aren't model examples of good governance.
@PuneetMadaan @KareemAnNajm @MalihehBanoo But... it was never automatically given to the father, at least according to the Malaysian Shari'ah courts.
And no, females aren't just "baby machines" to us Muslims. Whatever possessed you to make such an idiotic remark?
@Abdul Ameer Yes, because "wanting to present a positive image" is a trait exclusive only to Muslims? Oh, how blind does hatred makes a person.
I see people of all races and religions lying all the time. Unlike you though, I'm not foolish enough to suggest that it is intrinsic in their theological belief, racial makeup, or whatever foolish notions that you seem to be holding here.