Thunder fans, please stop embarrassing yourselves with Skip Bayless sensationalist comments. The Thunder had the second best record in the league with the an historic point differential. Why did they lose in the playoffs? Oh yeah, because their second best player, a top 5 player in the league, and who the Thunder have built their offense around with KD was injured. And despite that massive loss they still hung with the Grizzliea in every game. You're telling me Russ doesn't make a 6 point difference? Please. This team was primed to go back to the Finals at worst and it sucks that he got hurt but in proud of the way the guys fought.
It's not that you shouldn't care, it's that the overreaction and sensationalism, even for online standards, is absurd here.
I swear most people that write on here don't seem to know basketball very well. The Thunder got something back for a player that wasn't playing nor was in the future plans of the team. Win.
@tygablood That's retarded. Martin scored 15, just below what Harden averaged. We played horribly and lost on a buzzer beater. Oh well. If you're really making extreme rationalizations after one game, then please devote your attention to something besides basketball because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
@justin_mia @alvarex @S4TISF4CTION @tydude He's a better spot up shooter. Doesn't demand the ball or pound the ball. Different offense.
@alvarex @S4TISF4CTION @tydude You know, except the fact Martin has been top percentage in the league at getting to the free throw line most of his career
@tydude Exactly. For one, people are REALLY underselling Kevin Martin. This is a smooth scorer who might ultimately fit in better with Durant and Westbrook because he is a spot up shooter.
@justin_mia You forget he's battled injuries. It happens. And you forget how much better he's made Ibaka. Harden took off after the trade as well. You extend him because he is a role the Thunder need. Until a better option presents itself, I'm fine with it.
@MisterJohnsonOKC @justin_mia Ibaka has looked a lot better having Perk cover his weaknesses.
@justin_mia We were told? It's like you didn't watch basketball before the Thunder became good. Perkins was a big part of a championship team, an elite defense, and was a big part of almost winning the title for a second time until he got hurt. He's battled injuries. That's sports. But he is good, and he's properly paid. Maybe you have never played basketball, but statistics and metrics are not everything. Hell, I wish we had Marcin Gortat in there, but it's not realistic. The market for big men is not good. With him, the team has gone to the WCF and gone to the Finals. I'm fine with that. When there is a better alternative let me know. So easy to armchair QB and say let's amnesty Perk....when who exactly is filling that role? Thabeet?
@Lost Ones @justin_mia It equates to having a better season than you otherwise would have had?
@justin_mia Steve Nash and Kobe are below average defenders at this point, so I'm not sure their defense is really all that much better than it was last year when it was already pretty highly ranked. I favor the Thunder in a series with the Lakers. Maybe not as favored as they'd be pre-trade, but still favored.
@justin_mia He has earned his money. Look at the salaries of big men in the NBA. Big men get paid more. His salary is reasonable and he serves a purpose. Again, we don't win the Grizzlies series without him the year before. He wasn't bad until the finals last year, really. I'm not going to complain about series we won, and a lot of what he does isn't statistically tracked. And being better defensively in 2009-2010 has a lot to do with the assistant coach we had who then went to the Bulls.
@justin_mia It's not optimism. It's basketball. The Lakers ARE a threat, but you can't ignore match-ups. No one on the Lakers can guard Durant. No one on the Lakers can guard Westbrook. This hasn't changed. Conversely, Kobe is getting older and has struggled against Thabo. Gasol struggled mightily against Ibaka. And Perkins can guard Howard without double help. It's simple match-ups. The Thunder's bench is still much better, they are still much more athletic and faster. Yes, Howard helps in that regards, but Howard is smaller than Bynum, so the Lakers lose advantages they did have with Bynum they don't have now.
@justin_mia For the one millionth time, Perkins has made his money and this team wouldn't have been as good these past two years with freaking Nenad Kristic at center
The biggest mistake the Thunder ever made was failing Chandler's medical, not trading Harden.
People so scared of the Lakers need to realize that their off-season didn't do much in improving their match-ups against the Thunder. They lost to the Thunder because they were old and slow. News flash, they're still old and slow. Their bench still is horrible. They still don't have anyone who can guard Westbrook. I think Durant proved last year that Artest doesn't really bother him anymore. Did Gasol do anything against Ibaka? Oh, and Perkins is about as good as you can hope for in guarding Howard, who mind you ISN'T that big an upgrade offensively than Bynum, a legit 7 footer mind you.
Come on guys, name recognition, sure, scary. But Nash, Gasol and Bryant are not in their primes. In fact, Nash and Bryant are at historically high minute marks. This isn't 2006 for them. Still great players, but not what they were. And this idea that we somehow don't have continuity or chemistry issues...we still have the same starting line-up. Howard has done nothing in his career to prove to me he's a true competitor or "wants it". Sorry, he just doesn't and has never scared me.
@SilenceTheLambs @RRRWHATEVER Ridiculously untrue, and Jason Terry is told too