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"Poverty was the biggest factor behind this crime."
Sorry, but that's not an excuse.
"The unemployment rate in the kingdom is among the highest in the Middle East -- it runs over 40 percent among males and over 80 percent among females."
As with other 'facts' reported in this article (like the no black judges law), I'd like to see some specifics on this. What does that mean? That 40% of working-age male Saudi citizens are looking for jobs and can't find them? For one thing, I know that in other Gulf countries, men retire much earlier than Westerners would think is normal; it's not unusual for a man in his late 40s to be retired. I find it hard to believe that 40% of Saudi men in their 20s, 30s and 40s are unemployed.
@schneibster They do speak for themselves. And they vote for themselves. And like the men (maybe even more than the men), they support the Constitution. They know more about it than you do; don't pretend that they're ignorant and you have to explain things to them.
@HendQotb Hend, my comment was to schneibster, not to you! I replied to him, but it put both your names - sorry, I should have taken yours off. And yes, ALL Muslim women don't need him acting like he's rescuing them.
@schneibster @HendQotb Egyptian women are not stupid and don't need you to 'rescue' them from their religion.
The UAE, Oman and Bahrain 'abide by strict Islamic law'? You're joking, right? Their governments are not Islamic, they sell alcohol and pork, their banks are not Islamic... what does it mean, then, to 'abide by strict Islamic law'?
@LisaLake What a load of nonsense... First of all, you're right, no one would want a religion that's the way you described it. One and a half billion people wouldn't embrace that religion, and it wouldn't be the fastest growing religion in the West. If you thought about it, you might realize that Islam couldn't be the way you describe it. It's NOTHING like the way you describe it.
I keep seeing commenters who believe that Muslim countries are getting huge amounts of aid from the U.S. The country that gets the most is Israel; the second is Egypt, and this is a payoff for them signing a peace treaty with Israel. As for the Arab Gulf countries, the U.S. is not giving them money; on the contrary, their investments are propping up the U.S.
You know for a fact that you'd have to learn the language to stay in 'our' countries? And you're American? Well, I know for a fact that Americans who come to the Arab Gulf countries - who enjoy a nice lifestyle with good salaries (mostly untaxed), maids, a low rate of crime, health care, etc... the vast majority of them never learn ONE word of Arabic. They even complain that their children have to take an Arabic class at school.
@Maigari Actually, many Arab countries boycotted Danish products, and there was an economic impact.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/10/AR2006021001821.html
@ScottConner http://news.yahoo.com/outrage-over-anti-islam-film-underscores-lebanons-shiite-185030155.html
@ScottConner You 'know' Muslims from all over the world (what - on an Internet forum or something), and you asked them about what specifically? And keep in mind that it's such a touchy subject that they probably wouldn't want to get into it with you...
@ScottConner @benwaxman55 I've seen this explanation, and of course I have no idea what really happened. But I would take with a large grain of salt the Libyan government's claim that it was done by 'foreign terrorists'. I'm sure you know that many governments in the region claim that 'foreign terrorists' are to blame for anything that makes them look bad; not only do they duck responsibility, but it usually gets them a bunch of military aid as a bonus... that's the modern-day equivalent of 'Round up the usually suspects'.
@benwaxman55 I'm certainly not saying that they couldn't/shouldn't do more. But it is on everyone's minds, it's the focus of Friday sermons, huge amounts of money were donated during Ramadan, when the nightly prayers end with emotional supplications involving Syria, there have been many meetings, speeches, etc. I can't speak for every country (as you know, this doesn't get much news coverage), but I know that there have been multiple protests at the Syrian Embassy in Kuwait calling for the expulsion of the Syrian envoy, and it has been breached at least twice. The participants include Islamic scholars, members of the National Assembly and other Kuwaitis, Syrians and others who support the Syrian people.
http://news.yahoo.com/witnesses-kuwait-protesters-storm-syrian-embassy-063208179.html
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/04/mob-ransacks-syrian-embassy-in-australia/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6MMJghLgFA
@benwaxman55 They do protest because of the slaughter on Syria. They collect money; clothes, food and blankets; they give speeches and make videos. They pray for Syrians; some go there to deliver money and supplies; some even go to fight. They've been doing this for a year and a half - just because you don't know it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
@Shingo @jgarbuz @The_Iron_Webmaster I know a woman who was on the Mavi Marmara, and that was one point she emphasized. She said that they were actually shocked to see what cowards the Israelis were. They assaulted the ship, but the ones who were caught behaved like scared little babies. (The people on the ship just treated any injuries they had and kept them safe.)
@shadowcloud88061 Sorry for my ignorance (but I'd rather say I don't know something than spout off as an expert on it). Thanks.
@jgarbuz @ScottConner @googooyou Having read your comments here, I'll tell you right off that I couldn't care less what you think about anything.
@Shingo Unfortunately, that poll was taken more than 2 years ago. A lot has happened since then. And I'm skeptical that the poll is representative anyway; according to the article you linked to:
"The countries covered are among the region's least radical – Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, Saudi Arabia and the UAE – and represent the more modern and affluent parts of the so-called Arab street, with 40% of respondents using the internet every day."
@shadowcloud88061 This is off-topic (sort of anyway), but I really like what you wrote, so I'm curious about Turtle Island. What is that about?
@AnyaKhan @Persian Gulf Reply Please stay there.
@jgarbuz @Shingo @AnyaKhan @JohnFrum1 I'm saying that you write as if in the U.S., anyone can just walk over to an oil field and pump themselves some oil whenever they need it...