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vickissmith. U make it sound like some1 has to be near death be4 they can use a firearm against some1. Let me explain somthing to u. when 2 men are physically fighting they both know the power of the other guy. GZ nor anyone else has to wait till their ready to blackout be4 using their gun. If u were on the bottom in a fight with TM & u knew he was stronger than u & u knew he was not going to stop beanting u what would u do?? Remember when they allow some1 to carry they don't expect them to use the gun after they blackout. It doesn't matter what anyone says if they were GZ on that night and they were being beaten and they felt like TM wasn't going to stop they would have shot him also. You also keep saying u can understand TM anger at being followed but the evidence is clear shortly after GZ left his SUV he states " crap I don't know where this kid is" he never after that tells the dispatcher he regained sight of TM. TM had all the time in the world to reach the safety of then house but it's obvious he had something else in mind. And please don't start with TM g/f saying GZ was following him at the time the fight started because that's hearsay.
12 months ago on The Missing 2:30 & DeeDee's Testimony
Renaline, u say that TM wouldn't run & then rethink and say to himself "what am I doing I'll go beat this guy up." Well, u make it sound as thou the only reason y a young man would run is to reach safety. So u'r reading TM mind about why he decided to run. A young man could also run to gain an advantage over someone. TM was shoot very close to where he started running from and he was shoot there 5 mins. later. He started to run @ 7:12 and was killed @ 7:17. He had plenty of time to reach the safety of the house. Why was he killed much closer to where he started running from then the house?? 7:12 TM starts to run down the sidewalk behind the houses -- 7:16 people call police reporting 2 men fight behind their home -- 7:17 GZ fires a single shoot. Seconds later police r at the site of the shooting. TM had a cell phone but never call 911 to report GZ following him. It's indisputable TM was not running to the safety of the house if he was he would have been there over 3 mins. be4 the fight started. We also know GZ never went back and sat in his suv. GZ had plenty of time to return to his suv and wait 4 police but he decided not to. So what u have is 2 people who were willing to stay in an area where they knew a confrontation could occur. GZ being the adult ( & carrying a gun ) should have better sense ( & there are laws regarding this) but bottom line if anyone of us is attacked and having our head beat into a concrete sidewalk we can defend ourself. Why do u think it's legal to carry.
1 year ago on Evidence that Trayvon Martin Doubled Back
@NolaMarchChandler I thought the same thing as you. They are said 2 be b/f and g/f but yet she hears a physical confrontation start in which she claims Trayvon got pushed and she don't even call the cops. I know if I heard over the phone my g/f is being followed and then attacked I would be on the phone with the cops. I would never go to bed that night till I found if she was o.k. Good point Nola. Of course we don't have all the facts yet but what we do have regarding this issue is not so believable.
1 year ago on The Missing 2:30 & DeeDee's Testimony
vickissmith 1st.. Y do u always refer to Martin as Tray & Zimmerman as GZ? How can u say GZ wasn't going 4 his cell phone but rather his gun? Come on let us know r u really George Zimmerman? People usually insult 1 another b4 they fight is what u think. Let me tell u something in the big cities up & down the east coast young black people attack older white ( & younger white) people without ever saying a word. I don't know where u come from but I spent many years in Phila pa & the young black people never said a word when they started fighting. Vickissmith I'm not saying u'r not intitled 2 u'r opinion cause u r but I must say some of the things u say make sense but others really seem bias and speculatory.
Vickissmith. I saw u'r comment about how intense the meeting was when GZ & TM came together. I hope u remember and u keep it real. The funeral director dealing with TM body said TM had no signs of a fight. I realize he was trying to help the TM side but he didn't. We know GZ had a broken nose & gashes to the back of his head. We know from the funeral director TM suffered no injuries other then the gun shoot wound. TM was clearly kicking GZ behind & then sadly GZ had to do something to stop TM>
@voiceofinsanity the parents don't want an apology... they want zimmerman's head and millions of bucks
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to mattstate u'r right people r trying 2 push their own agendas hoping 2 convince others their side is right. The 911 call clearly shows GZ was reporting someone he saw as suspicious and giving the dispatcher the location of TM. It clear why GZ got out of his SUN & thats cause TM ran to an erea when GZ couldn't drive. GZ would have had 2 drive up onto the sidewalk and then make a right turn on the grass behind people's house. He got out of the SUV while he was still on the phone with 911 so he could update the dispatcher what way TM was running.
u'r wrong. GZ didn't want to catch him. Infact if u think GZ stayed in his SUV till TM started running. GZ called 4 police to catch ( if u want to use that word ) TM. GZ was observing TM from his SUV he wasn't out of his SUV confronting TM. GZ told the dispatch to get a cop out there. TM ran -- GZ wanted to keep an eye on him and he couldn't drive his SUV up onto the grass and make a right turn behind people's houses so he left his truck to see what direction TM went & that is when GZ told the dispatcher "i don't know where this kid is" .
1 year, 1 month ago on Evidence that Trayvon Martin Doubled Back
I'm sorry I didn't read any of u'r post and then I saw 1 and I thought u were being sarcastic. I never untill this case started posted anything on the internet and I have since recieved e-mail's from people telling me I deserve to b shot cause I post GZ left his truck and started on foot cause TM ran to an area GZ couldn't drive or GZ didn't want to drive behind people's house & some people have told me GZ got out of his SUV just to shot TM. When people communicate on the net or text sometimes it's not as clear as talking in person on via the phone. But , I was wrong & I should have taken the time to read u'r post. Bye
And also Goofey GZ lawyer has not said anything about what evidence he has so u'r premature when u say GZ lawyer hasn't done anything about my analysis. Goofey, I make determination as to the merit of very complex medical malpractice cases everyday. What do u do all day find way to justify u's hatred of anyone who doesn't agree with u???
Goofey, If u have any new evidence other the hearsay I would love to hear it. If u have not listened to GZ's 911 call please do so and tell me where he regains sight of TM or if there is some other factual evidence of him regaining sight of TM I would love 4 U to tell me where it is.. Remember, Goofey anyone can say anything but hear we have both GZ saying he didn't know where TM was & we has TM's saying that GZ didn't know where TM was. But I guess U have evidence that GZ always had his eye on TM. Don't be a little girly girl Goofey show us u'r not just talking out u'r ass and post this evidence U have...
The state of Florida's affidavit regarding this case reads the dispatcher realized GZ was pursuing TM , dispatcher instructed GZ not to do that & that the responding office would meet him. Weel , the dispatch did ask if GZ wanted to meet the Officer but that was after GZ took his advice about following TM. The affidavit is clearly in contrast with the fact proven on the 911 call by GZ. When GZ get out of his SUV a few secs later u can clearly hear an increase wind flow thou the cell's micophone & u can clearly hear his repiration rate increases and also his breathing becomes heavier. 13 secs after he says "ok" in responce to wedon't need u to follow him GZ's breathing is back to a resting or near reating state and u no longer hear an increase wind flow thou the cell's microphone. Also 4 the dipatcher 2 ask GZ if he was following TM the dispatcher had to hear something that lead him 2 that conclusion but he never ask GZ a 2nd time if he was still following TM because what led him 2 know that the 1st time never occured again. LISTEN 4 YOURSELF.. If Corey wants to say TM's girlfriend is how they know GZ continued following TM she would b relying on someone who was not there and had no clue where GZ was. It's very unethical of her to do this. The last piece of true evidence we have regarding this issue is GZ saying to the dispatcher "i don't Know where this kids is" . He never from that point on during the 911 call says he saw TM so there is no evidence that GZ continued to follow TM. U cannot follow someone if u don't know where they are.
Regarding TM g/f she claims TM put his hoodie on because GZ was watching him. Well, we were all lead 2 believe he was targeted 4 wearing the hoodie. I think large numbers of people wore hoodies saying "justice for Trayvon. Now we know the hoodie had nothing 2 do with it. TM's g/g says she told trayvon to run but he responded with no I'll walk faster. Sounds like fight or flight to me. She also said TM was very scared but he nor she never called the cops. GZ was on the phone with the cops not TM. The bottom line is this there is rock solid evidence GZ did not follow TM and then shoot him down. Either TM found a place to watch GZ where GZ couldn't see him or they just ran into each other somehow. Due to the facts TM had over 2 mins to go less then a city block 2 get 2 the house and had a good head start on GZ and also the shooting took place a few yards from where TM was last seen. I think theres a very strong likelihood TM had something in him mind other then running 4 the safety of his house.
Remember it's very inplausible a man with a gun is going to start a fist fight with a man in whom he doesn't know if he has a weapon.
1 year, 1 month ago on The Missing 2:30 & DeeDee's Testimony