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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @GKo1 @Curran1


14,000 in afghanistan


The US has lost nearly 7000 in Iraq and Afghanistan, along with more than 22 committing suicide a day - that's 8000 per year.



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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @GKo1 @Curran1


No but then again, very few Russian bodies were piled up during the Cold War.

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@GKo1 @Curran1


"Credible" is in the eye of beholder


No, credible is the fact that the same reporter exposed the Iran Contra scandal and has an impeccable track record and credibility.


There are very credible theories all over Internet  that "Putin is an agent of West", 


Which credible source has reported on it?

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@CeceliaHolland @GKo1 @Curran1


the Russian way of war. pile up more bodies than the other guy.


Worked for the Vietnamese too it appears when they kicked US butt.  Funny how when America's pathetic war record is highlighted, the chickenhawks play the death toll card.

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@Curran1 @Shingo @CeceliaHolland @GKo1


Tell me about Noam's expertise in politicy matters, from where it derives, and how a nation that wielded the world's second greatest empire for two centuries and more should be listened to in their devotion to a man devoted to criticizing another country.

I am not sure what you mean by politicy.  If you are referring to foreign policy, there are not too many “experts” in the field who have any formal expertise.  Even those recognized as so called experts tend to have miserable track records.  Just look at the Israeli/Palestine conflict. Who did Obama bring in to manage those?  None other than Dennis Ross and Martin Indyk, both of whom have a track record of failure.

The neocons all professed to be experts and along with the other experts were all 100% wrong about Iraq’s WMD.

The best definition of “expert” I ever heard was that “X” was an undesignated factor and “spurt” is a drip under pressure.

North America and the entire Indian subcontinent while forcing the Chinese government, through war, to allow a horribly addictive drug to be traded in that nation simply to preserve Britain's silver reserves?

Admittedly the face of empire has changed.  Colonization went out of fashion in the 19th century, so the US has opted for puppet regimes and military bases.

 
And if the UK loves Noam so much, why do they elect Tory governments so frequently since 1979?

Kinda irrelevant don’t you think?  In fact, is speaks to Chomsky’s credentials that a largely conservative society has recognized his arguments.  


And as for Thatcher, she remains one of the most hated and reviled figures in Britain.


Of course they're proud Thatcher defended a British speaking people--how do they feel that US naval posts were secretly necessary for the logistics to fight that war?

British speaking people?  What British speaking people did Thatcher defend and when were these British speaking people ever under threat?


Oh, and who the hell called that man a 'philosopher'?

I was referring to the 'philosopher' in Russia who’s views were being held up as some “expert” opinion.

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@Curran1 @Shingo @CeceliaHolland @Siberia_RUS


Wow, Shingo, did you come over and volunteer for Obama like I did? No? Oh, well. You do what you can. Which is support Putin against Obama, I guess.

Wrong again.I was elated as any democrat when Obama was elected in 2008.Like you and many of his supporters, I had a live preview of the vote count on my computer screen at work and later that evening, popped champagne to celebrate. Ere all had huge expectations for Obama, and he has failed miserably.Admittedly, he failed because he came up against overwhelming opposition from the establishment.

Obama was undermined by both parties with regard to Israel following his inspiring Cairo Speech.  

This is not even about Obama.This chaos in the Ukraine has been the pet project of the State Department, who Obama clearly has little control over.Do you think Obama OK’d the 5 billion spent on “promoting demoracy” in the Ukraine or the hundreds of millions that that the National Endowment for Democracy spent with it’s 64 programs in the Ukraine?

Do you think that Obama agreed with the head of the National Endowment , Carl Gershman, when he proclaimed that Ukraine was the prize to bring down the Putin regime?


There are some credible theories that the Ukraine situation was incited by rogue elements at State who were concerned about Obama's cooperative relationship with Putin over Iran and Syria and used this conflict to drive a wedge between them,

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@Curran1 @Shingo @GKo1 @Siberia_RUS @CeceliaHolland


Ah--so, given Russia's lack of compunction about massacring its neighbors on land, I'll take that as an admission you have no navy.


AS opposed to the US who goes about bout massacring other people in other countries.


We all tend to have our ups and downs. 


Yeah, that's a nice way to describe a monumentally humiliating defeat that had a disastrous affect on the US psyche - so bad in fact that it took for the US to bomb Iraq (with a whole gang of allies) to get over it. 

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@Curran1 @Shingo @CeceliaHolland @GKo1 Right so Chomsky is a linguist with and according to you, has no expertise in the political subjects he writes of, even though he was voted as the most the top public intellectual by the British public.


Yes a so called "philosopher" is an expert in government politics.


Got it.

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@Curran1 @Shingo @CeceliaHolland @GKo1


No production problems with the 380 at all--nor any sort of industrial subsidies.


Subsidies?  You seriously want to talk about subsidies? 

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/28/business/global/europe-to-seek-sanctions-against-us-over-boeing-subsidies.html?_r=0


Wow, you are just begging for more rope to hang yourself.

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@Curran1 @Shingo @GKo1 @Siberia_RUS @CeceliaHolland


Hasn't won a war since the World War? I'll just let that one sit there and...sit. I'm sure the Gulf War, Grenada, etc 'don't count' for some reason.

Gulf War? You mean the one that involved a massive coalition against a 3rd world country? Grenada?  Are you serious? Tiny impoverished country of 100,000 people?


Any historian worth their salt will tell you that the war practically over by the time the US turned up.


The Germany's ability to continue its advance had ground to a halt. Sure the allied played their part, but it was the Russians who paid the highest price and ground the German’s down.


Soviet troops as your generals fled while sacrificing resources and vast territories--has the US suffered any such military humiliation? Ever?

Vietnam comes pretty close, but the US had not fought a major war on it’s own soil so there is no real comparison. As to the Cold War, that was really a conflict of ideologies and Soviet system was brought down from within.  


On that score, it was great for everyone that the Cold War ended and that the USSR was defeated.

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@Curran1 @Shingo @Siberia_RUS @CeceliaHolland



Syria being a poster boy of US empire and not at all a decades-long opponent allied at all costs with the US's strategic competitor in the region since 1979.


What is you point?  That because the US does not control every country in the ME it is less than an empire?


Getting back to Syria, is that the same Syria that the US is trying to regime change as we speak? The same Syria that the US sent prisoners to be tortured until only a few years ago?

It's actually NOT! (Weird, right? That an airstrip in, say, Micronesia, isn't the same as ruling Egypt for a century or two?)

Not at all.  China would not be sending it’s own nazy to the region if they were happy with the US nazy doing it for them.


After all, I can feel the USN quaking in their boots at a Chinese naval presence in the Gulf... I mean, they've got everything!


Obviously China are aware of the imbalance, but have made a determination that the risk is worth it.  After all, being allied withy Iran gives them a major advantage seeing as Iran can arm it’s coastline with batteries of anti ship missiles that would inflict severe damage on those numbers and strategic relationships.

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@Curran1 @Shingo @GKo1 @Siberia_RUS @CeceliaHolland


But tell me, if Aegis is so untested and useless, why is China so afraid of Taiwan acquiring the technology, hmm?

Who says they are afraid? They built their own.

http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/chinese-aegis-leads-a2ad-drill-in-south-china-sea/


Russia doesn't need the ships, but is keeping Western shipyards open and keeping French sea power current by contracting them to build Mistrals?


What Western shipyards is Russia keeping open?  Mistrals are simply glorified transport vessels and serve logistical purposes within it’s waters.  Russia is not in the business of sending it’s navy around the world to start wars and bomb third would countries.


Russian subs can match US and UK subs every step of the way and won respect among the US navy..

http://news.usni.org/2014/10/28/u-s-navy-impressed-new-russian-attack-boat


And look, it’s only slightly noisier than the Seawolf or Virginia-class. And what else does it say? 


"However, the Soviets were always only lagging slightly behind U.S. in quieting technology according to Navy sources."


You might need to update your talking points AGAIN! 


Hey, about those carrier groups again. What about self-propelled carriers? Do they have those?

Like I said, no need.  Russia is not in the business of sending it’s navy around the world to start wars and bomb third would countries.

Remind me how many men Russia sacrifices to win its wars, with its famous 'burn everything, run away, and hope for a cold winter in which the government does not collapse' strategy, please.

As opposed to what?  The US strategy of waiting till everyone has fought themselves to a bloody end and then rolling up at the end and claiming victory?


You're aware, of course, that Lenin gave up the Great War on humiliating terms,

You're aware, of course, that the US  gave up the Vietnam  on similarly humiliating terms, and with the cameras still rolling. You are aware that the US was humiliated in Iraq and Afghanistan right?


In fact, the US has never worn a war since WWII, and even then, it was the Russians that did all the heavy lifting.


And now the US has rolled out the mother of all lemons, the F35, a plane that doesn't bomb well, doesn't fight well and costs too much to fly.  

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@Curran1 @CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Siberia_RUS


Thanks! You've delivered plenty of TKOs yourself, obviously, this conversation, but he seems to quite enjoy the pain.


You guys rare a hoot. You remind me of John McCain in the 2008 presidential campaign when he was getting his ass whooped yet announced at a rally that he had Obama right where he wanted him.


Too funny.

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@Curran1 @Shingo @GKo1 @Siberia_RUS


If those trolls could work a puny fraction of how much much they are willing to troll on Western blogs, Russia would have been golden by now.


How does that explain Cecilia's copious efforts? 

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@Curran1 @Shingo @GKo1 @Siberia_RUS


 Have those missiles gotten a kill on a Nimitz yet? 


Haven;t need to but they would fry that hunk of junk without even a nuclear warhead.


Has your Aegis defense systems  even even been tested in real world situations?  Nope!!


The Aegis  is never going to be able to defend against Russian anti shop missiles, especially in a narrow waterways like the Straights of Hormuz.


But hey, don't take m y word for it - read it and weep.

http://www.metafilter.com/88559/The-Russian-antiship-missile-we-have-no-defense-against

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/09/the-sunburn-missile-the-weapon-that-could-defeat-the-us-in-the-gulf-2467754.html

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@Curran1 @Shingo @CeceliaHolland @GKo1


nly 1200 777s built since the mid-90s, if I recall (and I do).


Yes, which were pre sold with fixed prices, which means that Boeing is struggling to break even,  They needed that sweetener because they couldn't even show a prototype while the Airbus 380 was rolling off the production line.


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@Curran1 @Shingo @Siberia_RUS @CeceliaHolland


At least in the US billionaires still have to gamble huge sums to influence elections rather than ruling directly as oligarchical subordinates. "Dude."

Um no.  There is no gamble.  They pay their money to rig the system


Riiiiiiight, and as we've been over, the last deal fell apart because Putin found Chinese terms unacceptable--until they were forced on them. ...

What deal?  The last deal was the one before this one and that one was a success.


Nope. The US had been pushing such measures for months to years, but it was Russia's own actions that brought about approval of the sanctions.

No, it was the coup and the secession of Crimea from the Ukraine that got US plans over the line.  The US after all, backed and financed the coup in Kiev. It was their actions that drew a response from East Ukraine which has been blamed on Russia.


Nope, the blockade was in no way leveraged by US strategic positions in SE Asia. I've never heard the suggestion even raised.

Of course it was not to leverage US strategic positions in SE Asia, it was to leverage strategic positions in the ME


Or, I'm sorry, have they made any suggestion regarding challenging it in some way?

Yes, as I have pointed out, China is now sending navy ships to the Gulf.

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/chinas-military-presence-in-the-gulf

 
Riiiiight. Because influence is the same thing as empire.

It is when you have 800 bases in the region and the US refers to US interests there.  


Syria being a poster boy of US empire and not at all a decades all opponent allied at all costs with the US's strategic competitor in the region since 1979.

Wow, I cannot even read your rambling diatribe, it’s so incoherent.  Is English your second language or in this debate is really getting you?

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@Curran1 @Shingo @CeceliaHolland @Siberia_RUS


Yes the US did have to twist arms and threaten to get the Europeans to go along with the sanctions. And no, the Russians were not forced to make large new economic arrangements. The deals with China have been in the pipe for many years.  It was US policy against Russia and China that sealed the deal.

And for new arrangements, the US strategy in the Ukraine has fallen over a cliff.  They thought they could move NATO into the Ukraine and park their own base in Sevastopol.

And no, not everyone gets oil from the Mideast.  Mexico and Canada certainly don’t.  And Japan and China don’t need the US to protect the Straights, the US remains there as gatekeeper for what it calls “US interests”.


The US uses that as leverage, though? Please mention one example. Just one will be sufficient. One only.


Hmm let me think…..how about the blockade of Iraq in the 90s?


China does not okay US control, they simply live with it which is why they have invested so much in Africa and lo and behold, the US has followed China to Africa to be able to stand over them there too.  In fact, China and Iran are now forging closer ties precisely because of the US presence there.

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/10/iran-china-navy-persian-gulf-us.html#


Like your denial about the US being am Empire, it is you that is wasting your time.  The US has always used it’s presence in the Gulf to intimidate the states in the region, be it Iraq, Lybia, Iran, Syria you name it. 

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=2ZP7AQAAQBAJ&pg=PA245&lpg=PA245&dq=us+navy+gulf+to+intimidate+adversaries&source=bl&ots=hCV9fkppB2&sig=rKsQ20sbpzFpA3bqHwk0gfWYGuE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=udhjVPaFBMbTmgXk_IHABw&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=us%20navy%20gulf%20to%20intimidate%20adversaries&f=false         


Im stunned by the (alleged) difference. So are other powers


I am sunned you don’t know the difference between a treaty and an agreement.   I am also stunend that you had to cite Harper , the clown,  and you would have noticed, his grand standing amounted to nothing because he had no basis for his proposal.  Not even the US gave it the time of day.


 In fact, I didn’t know anyone paid any attention to what Harper had to say these days, but you must be the only one.


Now. What's the issue with the Chinese gas deal under duress? Gee, I wonder. I'll let 'Fortune' explain

Oh my another western media hissy fit over the fact that Russia and China have just made the second biggest energy agreement in history.  So in order to try and take the shine over the significance of the deal, Fortune magazine has to resort to juvenile taunts as to who is on top in the relationship between China and Russia.           


But speaking of the lenders of last resort, please remind me who it was that bailed out the US banks to the tune of $29 trillion now by loaning it, but by giving it to them?

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Siberia_RUS @delta5297


DOn't be silly Cecelia, I don't hate you.  I hate what some people do, but you I certainly do not hate.  


And thank you for the link. I stand corrected as to the law.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @GKo1 @Siberia_RUS


that's why the Russians wound up scrambling over garbage heaps looking for scraps of food and living under trees.


Again, the world has moved on from the 90s CEcelia.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @GKo1


Chomsky is very creditable source, you simply don;t like what he has to say.


Yes, Chomsky has made a career and a reputation decrying his own country and he happens to be right.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @GKo1


 I note Russia does not vie with airbus and boeing to produce commercial aircraft, for instance.


I note that Boeing is no longer competitive with Airbus, and relies almost entirely on US government contracts.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Curran1 @Siberia_RUS


Iceland has about 300,000 people. their gdp is $14 bil. when they defaulted on their debts, it didn't hurt anybody.


Irrelevant.  QE was implemented to protect the wealthy and the banks, not for anyone else.  That is why the economy today is such a mess and so divided. The middle and working classes are struggling, cannot find work and 43 million are on food stamps, yet we are told the economy is growing.


That's because the few making money are those that were bailed out.


if the us had defaulted on its debts the vcrash would have apocalyptic. the us dollar underwrites the whole world economy.


Again you are simply admitting that the US economy is a corrupt and flawed system that cannot afford to play by the rules.  So on one hand you are spouting rubbish about how innovative and clever the US economy is, on the other hand you claim it has to be protected because it's too big to fail.
 if you went to the bank to get money from an account, there was no money to pay that.

if the banks had failed, where would the money have come from to establish new banks? 

Simple.   When there is a crash, assets become cheaper, people buy them and so the cycle begins.
Don't be stupid Celia. THe money the banks loan out has nothing to do with cash deposits.  Apparently you know nothing about fractional reserve banking.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Siberia_RUS


 the us bought one span of one bridge from china and it had to be redone because it was below standard.


Rubbish. You are now just making up stories.  The US bought a bridge from China because the US doesn't have the ability to make it's own anymore. In fact, some have pointed out that even if the US wanted to bring back manufacturing of Iphones and Ipads to the US, they wouldn't know how to do it anyway because they have lost the know how and expertise.


he us does not buy iphones, etc from foreign countries. those goods are made by us companies.


Wrong. They are made in China and Korea by Chinese and Koreans companies.  That also goes for all the parts.


Another reason is that the China has the most abundant resources of the rare earth compounds needed to make them.


Truth hurts I know Celia, but you have to hear it.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Siberia_RUS @delta5297


The world expo thing is true.  I was there with my wife and it was a huge scandal that the US government couldn't afford it's own exhibit.


You sound like a child who doesn't want to hear anything bad said about her daddy.


And you are lying about Clinton having to raise money privately for the expo because us law forbids the use of public money for trade shows.  If that were true, it would have been done long before the expo, rather than a last minute emergency.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Curran1 @Siberia_RUS


t was not self-evident in 1776 that a worker's fundamental asset is the value of his labor.


It was when I read it. Adam Smiths ideas were clearly ground breaking in 1776, but that was a long time ago.


And yes, the language is flowery, but again reflects the period.  The book could be easily condensed ot a lot fewer than 960 pages today.

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@CeceliaHolland @Siberia_RUS


 I thought you were just touting how putin's foreign currency reserves will get him through this  crisis.


They undoubtedly will.  He has 454 billion to play with and the crisis will likely be over within 12 months.

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@Curran1 @Siberia_RUS @CeceliaHolland


whereas Russian money mostly gets pissed away through graft everywhere down the line,


Oh please, take that plank out of your eye dude.  In the US, elections are determined by who raises the biggest campaign money from wealthy donors.  You now have to raise a billion to even be in the running for the white house and the Washington revolving door is so vulgar and out on the open that the concepts like corruption and conflict of interest have no meaning.


Did you hear how much Keith Alexander is getting paid every month for his expertise?


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@Curran1 @Shingo @CeceliaHolland @Siberia_RUS


Which Adam Smith did you read? 


Wealth of Nations.  I read it in high school, and found it pretty hard going.  The language was extremely flowery to the point of being a distraction.


What was your favorite passage? 


Can't say I have one.


Did you like the part where he identified the fundamental asset of the worker as the value of his labor?


Seemed self evident.  

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@Curran1 @Shingo @CeceliaHolland @Siberia_RUS


Right, like Russia's credibility depends on their promise {by formal treaty cosigned by other powers} to respect under all circumstances the internationally recognized borders of the Ukraine in 1994?


Formal treaty?  You need to stop embarrassing yourself. unless you get some sadistic kick out of it. There was no formal treaty signed in 1994. The Budapest Memorandum    did  include Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, but the memorandum was not a treaty itself.


It is not a formal treaty, but rather, a diplomatic document under which signatories made promises to each other as part of the denuclearization of former Soviet republics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-explainer-budapest-memorandum/25280502.html


Furthermore, Cirmea voted to secede from the Ukraine, so it ceased to be part of the Ukraine when it voted to join Russia, so Russia did not violate the Memorandum  anyway.


Tell, me, why do all those nations who 'dismiss the US' rely on us to secure the straits of Malacca and Hormuz


Who relies on the US to secure the straits of Malacca and Hormuz?  The US is not there to protect it, but to control it.  It's their way of reminding their rivals like China that they can close the tap whenever they please.


I didn't say the US is strategically and economically irrelevant.  It clearly is, but it's relevance is in decline, which is why US foreign policy is becoming more irrational and unpredictable.  


Yes they have isolated Russia but they have pulled every string and used all their aces to do it, and what's more, they are creating damage to themselves and to their allies by doing so.  And what may I ask is so undesirable about the rate that Russia is selling gas to China?



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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Siberia_RUS


why then does the us have an export trade of more than 2 trillion $$--the size of the entire Russian economy?


Because it has a bigger economy.  That doesn't change the fact it has a trade deficit.


And no, the TPP is not going to happen.  The Republicans can't make it happen because they cannot control what Japan does or any other state in Asia.  The US will never agree to a deal that is mutually beneficial.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Curran1 @Siberia_RUS


why do you think the world economic system almost froze up in the fall of 2008?


Because the banks were acting irresponsibly and illegally.   Why do you think no one has been charged or held responsible for the laws that these banks broke that led to that event?

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Curran1 @Siberia_RUS


you have no clue, do you. what would happen if the banks were not solvent?


Try to stay on topic Celia.  You're changing the subject.  One minute you are boasting that US banks are solvent the next you express indignation that I pointed out that they would not be were it not for the biggest government bailout in the history of the world.


As for what would happen, that's debatable.  Iceland refused to bail out the banks and they are doing pretty well.  The banks and the establishment have an agenda to scare the public into accepting that they need the banks and that it is in their interests to protect the banks, but that is not the case.  Banks are just businesses as if they fail, other banks that are managed properly will simply rise up to replace them,



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@CeceliaHolland @GKo1 expecting something like the internet


I guess it escaped you that the internet was invented by the military.   The US is very proud of it's killing machines, even though the most expensive of them  ie. F35 and F22s don't work.

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@GKo1 @CeceliaHolland


The best it described Russian philosopher Iljin: 


Shall I quote what Chomsky has to say about the US being with world's greatest terrorist state?

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@GKo1 @Siberia_RUS


You're still 3d class poor country. 


What's a 2nd class poor country? For that matter, name a 1st class poor  country



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@CeceliaHolland @GKo1 @Siberia_RUS


 longest ships in the world are the aircraft carriers. 


All that means is that it's a bigger target to hit. Aircraft carriers are not only floating death traps, they are an anachronism in the age of anti ship missiles and ICBMs and RBMs.

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@GKo1 @Siberia_RUS


Largest naval ships:


Large navy ships have been reduced to floating coffins with the advent of modern anti ship missiles.


While Reagan was pouring billions into building these floating death traps, the Russians were investing their R&D into supersonic anti ship missiles.

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@GKo1 @Siberia_RUS @CeceliaHolland


Very funny Go1.  Truth be told, Russia doesn't actually need those ships, but Russia doesn't lack expertise in ship building.

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@CeceliaHolland @Siberia_RUS @Shingo @delta5297


your trade surplus shrank last month by 19%.


The US has a trade deficit and growing.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11356870


your capital flight is up to $100 bil.


And capital influx is in the hundreds of billions thanks to the deals with China.


your bills are piling up. all this is  coming due, soon, sib.


At least Russia pays it's bills and has the cash to do it.  At the last world expo in Shanghai, the US couldn't even afford to pay for it's booth, so Hillary hd to get on the blower and ask for donations.

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@CeceliaHolland @Siberia_RUS @StephenMichaelStirling


 I'm so glad that Obama is pursuing a more diplomatic and economic course. 


Obama has or is bombing Iraq, Lybia, Somalia, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan.  Some diplomacy!

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@CeceliaHolland @Siberia_RUS


yes, a wonderful display. why do you have to buy warships from france, again?


And why does the US buy it's bridges, Iphones, computers, cars, and pretty much everything else from other countries again?


Seriously Celia, you care completely unhinged.  One minute you are arguing the virtues of trade the next you are arguing that free trade is a sign of weakness.

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@caaps02 @Siberia_RUS @Curran1 @GKo1


Every single one was a member of either extreme right 


That's extreme BS.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/international-observers-crimean-referendum-strongly-183400247.html


And indeed the referendum was conducted just like any election or referendum held in fascist or Stalinist states.


How so? What characteristics made it similar and why didn't any international observes make that observation?


And since then,  all dissent is being brutally suppressed


You mean in Kiev right, where political parties are being banned?


most lately with dozens of young Tatar men being "disappeared". 


Literally or factually?  Please cite a link and stop making up stuff.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Curran1 @Siberia_RUS


how did we double the monetary base? 


By printing money, 4 trillion and counting.


the prices of oil and food are excluded from the calculations for inflation because they are so volatile.

No, they are excluded because they would make the numbers look bad.  Seriously you sound like some quack who complains that the newspapers is filled with bad new all the time.


The fact that this is how it's been done is no excuse,  It's been done that way because governments don't like to report bad news.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Siberia_RUS @delta5297


they dissolved the existing government and appointed a new one to manage the referendum. 


False.  It was Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada that voted on to dissolve the regional assembly in Crimea.

http://www.sputniknews.com/world/20140315/188458808/Ukraine-Dissolves-Crimean-Parliament-as-Secession-Vote-Nears.html


Please leave the discussion to the adults.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Siberia_RUS @delta5297


the us is at the top or near the top of the list of 100's of commodities traded in the world, shin.


The US is a commodity?


I suspect it's you that needs to do some reading, beginning with basic comprehension.

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@CeceliaHolland @Shingo @Siberia_RUS


I have read Adam Smith.  China and russia have just signed the biggest and second biggest energy deals in history

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