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@Destoroyah The issue I have is, I don't think there has been a lot of R&D into the feesibility of this project. In terms of cost-vs-return. If there has been numbers done, then due dilligence would say that your shareholders (in this case, those that donated money) deserve the right to "see the books" - in this case, where is their money going? Obviously, things like story, trailers and so forth SHOULD be kept a secret for the finish to pay off, but posting updates of "we are casting, but can't tell you anything..." are cute, but irrelevant. Just be open about that process. Tell us what you are spending on X talent or Y location shoot. Break it down, so people can SEE where their money is going. You would have to provide the entire cost sheet for a studio project anyway, which I believe is ultimately the reason they didn't seek studio funding or a bank-loan option, because that would have been a lot of hard work and held them financially liable for the outcome. This way, if the project is rushed to finish, or gets too big, they've lost nothing other than a bunch of other folks money. Furthermore, this 'artistic vision' rubbish, while again, nice to say out loud and makes those that donated their money FEEL good... we're talking about a YouTube series about guy shouting about old Nintendo games. If that's art, then I've been Michalangelo for years... just without sticking it up on YouTube! No, there is no "artistic vision" at play here... Studios aren't interested in this kinda underground cult 15 minute fame YouTube stuff... A GREAT example on how to fund projects would be the team at RedLetterMedia who put their OWN money up front to do YouTube projects (Half in the Bag, Plinkett Reviews) make money from the ad-clicks, then package it on a DVD to sell to people. They buy it, funds their next project... wheels turn round. It's a much better way to fund passion projects to help get film careers started. More professional too. As I said, MUCH easier to spend someone elses money... much harder to spend your own. Doesn't matter where in the world, what denomination or currency... three hundred thousand dollars is a LOT of money. Especially for an underground indie project based of a YouTube series filmed with one camera in a bedroom about a guy hating on 30 year old games.
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@macrojd I do love those claiming to support Cinemassacre so passionately can't articulate themselves in any other manner than to swear, cuss and call people names a six year old would find less offensive... I have no idea who "Destoroyah" is, but we are not remotely the same person, although evidently smell similar rats in this case. My advice to those who can't see the forest for the hills in this bizzare begging-for-freebies that is happening, would be to sit back and constructively think for yourselves... rather than winding yourself into a religious-like cult ferver and yell at your computer screen in anger at those of us who aren't "on board" with the tactics employed in this project. I understand there's lots of you who are passionate about this project, good for you. But questioning the process and holding people accountable, whilst not a popular position, is a necessecary one. Please do me, and others of similar opinion, the decency of respecting our position. We don't have to agree, but you also don't need to be aggresively overt with your summations or polar opinions. In closing, James isn't Jesus. Cinemassacre isn't the Bible and neither deserve your blind support. Especially when they have 300+ thousand dollars of other peoples money!
I actually.... agree with the points a few people are making here. This endevour is turning a little sour for my tastes. Seems to be a lot of 'requests' [begging] for "Free" help on this project, when already a lot of money has been donated by fans. I would, at the very least, expect for the Cinemassace to invest some of their own finances (match the fan donations dollar for dollar for example) to run the movie project. That's usually how these things go. I said many months ago that Cinemassacre shouldn't stray too far from what they're good at, and a "Film" is not what they're good at. They're just as successful with the small projects they do on this very website. Many many many many people get a hightened sense of self-worth and pour a lot of money into a passion project only for it to fail when the futile nature of their endevour is fully realised. I'm not saying that's going to happen here, but it is a LOT EASIER to fail, when you're not spending your own money... I wouldn't give up, or 'help out' someone with the skills and job talents I have accrued over the many years of doing what I do, just for someone who is investing someone elses money in a passion project, because I stand to benefit nothing from it. If it fails, i've wasted my time for no reward, if it's a success, I get nothing bceause I wasn't invested in it to reap any rewards, other than 'thanks for giving me your time for free'. Borrowing monitors off someone is a low-end investment of course, but when you have quite a bit of other-peoples money involved in the project already, I'm fairly sure you could put that to good use and rent the equiptment you need, without resorting to asking for MORE freebies from the very people who are funding your project in the first place. Just doesn't sit right with me.