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@ecdawg They'll probably do a Bama and provide an open records statement on the matter in 2015.
Has there been no official statement by Florida regarding Morrison? I understand no statement over the weekend. But it's Wednesday for crying out loud. I expected something on Monday.
@SouthernBoiSB You're making my point. It cycles. And so long as there are really bad teams in a division, there will be really good teams in a division. And so long as there are really good teams in the East, there will be teams that have lows in the East.
My recommendation doesn't do away with the cross-division "traditional" rivalries because it places them in the same division. It preserves them and gives everyone else what they want. More balance in the cross division because you rotate more teams. It allows teams to keep their OOC in-state rivals. And allows teams to schedule another quality opponent to make 10 good games (it is easier to manage the quality of opponent going OOC than it is to be dictated who you play in the opposite division through a round-robin approach. As I keep saying... for every good team in a division, there is one in the crapper).
@SouthernBoiSB As if Tennessee Missouri, and Kentucky weren't guaranteed wins in the East in 2012? There are always going to be bad teams. As a matter of fact... it's a requirement when you have dominant teams at the same time.
Keep in mind that the West will have to come East 2 times to take on a mixture of UGA, UF, USCe, Bama, UT, and Auburn.
What's the point? The point is if you want to win the SEC Championship... win your games. Regardless of who is on your schedule.
@SouthernBoiSB You're absolutely right. I was thinking UF v the U... but the brain wasn't working. Thanks for the pick me up.
@rrrun Instead of focusing on the 12th weakest team on a schedule, wouldn't it make more sense to focus on fixing games 6-10 first? I never understand the knee-jerk reaction fans make to the 12th worst team on a schedule when games 6-10 are worse than mediocre.
@rrrun You keep your fanbase happy with home games. Are you expecting UGA to travel to UCLA without a return visit? Absolutely not. The only teams that are visiting your stadium without a home visit are by definition... cupcakes. Count em up.
There is never such a thing as a fair schedule. All attempts at a fair schedule are futile and foolish. There may be better ways about handling the SEC business. This is in regards to SOS and revenue. But as long as there are divisions (and to have an SECCG, you have to have divisions), someone is going to have to play Bama every year. Someone is going to have to play UF every year. Someone is going to have to play LSU every year (and someone is going to have to play Vandy, Kentucky, Ole Miss, and/or Miss St every year).
Let's get rid of the attempts at fair. And focus on attempts at playing some dang good football.
@DCPowerGator What a weak mentality towards football you're bringing. How can you want to be an SEC Champion and be afraid of the competition within a division. LSU complains about the cross division opponent. But they've never complained about sharing a division with Alabama (because it would be lame).
1) This is college football. The teams NEVER pick their conference schedule. Complaining is a sign of mental weakness
2) Where's the playoff mentality? Don't worry about who someone else is playing because you have to win your game, first.
Moving Bama and Auburn keeps the traditional games in tact (as a matter of fact, it adds UF v Auburn back to the schedule). It frees up more cross divisional games. It allows teams to control 4 non-conference games on their schedule (which is better for revenue).
The only downside is for the weakminded who want to worry about who someone else is playing.
@the_voice You miss the point. You wouldn't be replacing Directional State College with Bama. More likely... you're replacing UGA versus Clemson with UGA versus Arkansas. I promise you that UGA versus Clemson gets better ratings and helps the SOS better than UGA versus Arkansas. Not every team in the SEC is top 10. For every 2 powerhouses in a division, there are 2 lame ducks (2012 Auburn and Miss St in the West and 2012 Kentucky and 2012 Tennessee) that won't help ratings and won't help SOS getting teams into playoffs.
Teams need to protect their home games. You are always going to have 2 lame ducks on the schedule (even Saban is only fantasizing about 10 tough games). I promise you... you are more likely to be losing out on UGA v Clemson, UF v FSU, and USCe v UNC and adding a bunch of average games that no one realy cares about (Vandy v Miss St) other than the 2 teams involved.
@the_voice I don't see the point complaining about the FCS. Why would someone focus on the 12th toughest game on the schedule when games 6-9 leave much to be desired. I'll never understand why Buffalo or Arkansas State is considered any better than Georgia Southern. A patsy is a patsy is a patsy. Instead of focusing on the weakest team, focus where it matters. At the top of the strength of schedule (AQ OOC road games, how tough is the conference, is there a CCG?)
@WillieT I disagree with your grievance. Every school has a lame duck on their schedule. Why would you complain about the SEC? And if you look at the top half of the SEC (it's the tough half where the strength of schedule matters anyway), each team puts together a solid opponent. I agree that there should be 2 solid opponents (see UGA, UF, USCe). But most other conferences aren't littered with teams that have 2 AQ opponents on the schedule with several of those games on the road.
The lame ducks don't require the return visit. There is no need to fill up the schedule with 12 home and homes. Get 10 in most years (occasionally 9) and fill in with the lame ducks on top of it.
Instead of complaining about the weakest teams on the schedule, why don't you focus more on the games that matter like the top 6 games on the schedule. How tough are they? A weak opponent is a weak opponent. I don't care if it is Buffalo or Georgia Southern. What's the difference? Focus where it matters. The top 2 OOC games each season is the place to start.
@John at MrSEC - Very good and fair response. I noticed that you chose to place Boise in the Actual Competition category. There was a judgment call there as they weren't AQ status at the time. And to be true to your ideal would be to have left them in the Cannon Fodder category.
I don't really take any issue with the article (or your placement of teams... as you said, people weren't going to be happy regardless of how they lined up). I understand your connection with the teams placement and the ideal of college football moving forward. I just took exception to an entire piece dedicated to the past 5 years scheduling habits and a reply to another reader about the future of football (which is obviously different than the past 5 years scheduling habits).
The best solution is moving Bama and Auburn to the East. Trade Mizzou and Vandy to the West. Keep the 6-2 schedule with no permanent rival. Tell the conference to do what USCe, UF, and UGA are doing this year. Play two big boy games OOC as often as you can. And enjoy your home games. Without tailgating at home... college football wouldn't be the same.
@rrrun That's how UCLA does it? Maybe the UCLA fanbase despises their own team and wishes that they play fewer home games. Power Conference opponents require home and home visits. Otherwise... they wouldn't be power conferences. Good luck with attempting to play fewer home games. That's a great way to grow your war chest with your alumni and boosters.
This is a good piece. There are obvious issues with some of the placement of teams. It appears that a clear/cut line was drawn to help categorize the competition. Maybe it is simpler this way. Maybe that gets more web hits from upset fans.
The only thing that could make it more detailed is describing who traveled where for their OOC away games. There is an obvious difference between playing a team at home or a neutral stadium (especially if that neutral stadium is closer to your home than the opponent) versus going out on the road into an actual hostile environment.
Still. I appreciate you putting this together. Thanks.
@John at MrSEC @UtahReb You are talking about the future of college football, yet you are looking backwards the past 5 years for 100% of your piece. Is that irony? Or poor journalism?
Should we write a letter that bricks will intentionally be not purchased because Erk isnt in the Hall? there is no way that my family name can be allowed in before his.
I actually like that it protects 3 and rotates the rest. that is one of the nicer factors. the current division setup protects too many games that dont interest me as much (uga v vandy, uga v kentucky, etc..) i think the schedule is more fair when the wseaker opponents arent locked into the schedule.
There was a real good play with lynch at HBack on a misdirection. i wouldnt mind using a package with Theus at tight tend and Lynch right behind him at the HBack. lets maul some people.