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Do you have any film of Auburn practicing the return of field goals to send to Nick Saban? The rumor is he blamed his lack of preparedness on the failure to find film of such a thing. If you do then send it to him. It will take him 1 second of game time to watch.
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Rocker is a great D Line coach. He had the misfortune of suffering under the infamous Chizik micro management of the coaching staff, and the even worse Chizik failure to manage the players. It was the worst of both worlds on the Auburn staff at that time. Georgia is fortunate to land him and there are many in Auburn that still wish he was there. I'd say things were looking up for the Dawgs D.
He teaches a very physical and aggressive style of Defensive line play. He's done well everywhere at the collegiate level that he has been hired. Fears about his recruiting ability and whether he teaches dirty play are coming from those who likely never played the game. It is a physical fight in the trenches and the ability to dominate is as much mental as it is physical. It is simply the way it is and nobody has to teach a lineman who is worth his salt how to man up. They don't get to play line in college if they aren't a little mean already. What they have to be is smart, strong, and intimidating. Would you really want them any other way?
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@Bulldawg Bob2 @JRsec @converted 1981
I totally agree. Leaving the feet gives you no leverage and little power. The one you left out is what we called the "Feeble Reach" attempt. It too comes from lousy technique and I see that every weekend in the Fall as well.
Feet driving shoulder width apart to maintain your center of gravity, face up, arms open, hit squarely in the center of the opponent's chest, wrap up, and drive through your opponent planting him underneath you and on his back. Help him up and tell him you'll be right back. It was the same in the 50's, 60's and 70's and I'm sure Wally Butts taught it that way too.
Whether the sport is baseball, basketball, football, or golf if the athletes are faster, stronger, or bigger and do not know the fundamentals I can't call them better. And I don't see many of them coming out of high school knowing the things we had instilled in us just a few decades ago. Take Care, JR
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I appreciate your understanding of body trauma and am familiar with how the brain responds within its fluid and the results of trauma upon the cranial cavity. I also understand the points you are making. But I think you tended to take things a bit literally. Hyperbole is part of any somewhat humorous attempt to bring attention to a problem.
In my two posts I mentioned the same issues pertaining to the tentativeness of defenders, the difference in speed, etc. One truth that you hit upon that I did not was that fundamentals are lacking. I see it every week in the Fall on both sides of the ball, even in SEC play. The lack of the proper form tackling procedure being one of the most obvious deficits. I also stand by remarks about down field blocks that are now absent from the game and about the rotation of players.
I don't think anyone was seriously advocating a return to leather helmets so much as we were lamenting the fact that kids are taking advantage of the body armor and the subsequent feeling of invincibility it can lead one to feel. I'm sure I can speak for Converted as well as myself when I say that we don't desire the return to antiquated body protection as much as we were alluding to the realization of potential injury under which the game was played years ago, dangling arms and all. I think that is why some older veterans of the game refer to themselves and others who played in the bygone era as "Fellow Sufferers".
@converted 1981 @JRsec I have often wondered the same thing. Another point missing in most discussions about equipment is its weight. When we played once you suited up you were carrying some extra pounds that slowed your game speed down. The stuff today is so lightweight the kids play at a much faster speed. Speed plus weight equals injuries. The kids today are way heavier than the weights at which we played. Our emphasis was on conditioning, especially since many of us played both ways. None of our linemen had bellies hanging over the belt and 250 was about as heavy as anyone played and the guys that weighed that were 6'3 to 6'4. A strong back went 220 - 230 at 6'0.
Today I mistake the linemen for Sumo wrestlers and you never see them blocking down field. Liberal substitutions have made it possible for really big (see fat) guys to play the O line and D line 2 or 3 downs out of 4 before a breather. We were out there for the duration. If today's kids played without liberal substitutions they would have to fit an entirely different profile. I think hurry up offenses might return to us to smaller, stronger, fleeter guys. We'll see.
How about just leaving the game alone. It isn't nearly as dirty as it was when I played and when I played it wasn't nearly as tough as when my dad played. I had buddies who got concussions, some multiple concussions, it was part of the risk of playing. So far thank goodness none of them show any signs of memory loss.
Of course it's just my opinion, but tentativeness not only makes a player less productive in a reaction sport, but tends to get them injured as well.
Government wants to add safety to a sport in one of the more violent societies in the developed world. I call that a form of hypocrisy. Let's clean up the streets and then worry about football.
I attended this event for years through the 80's & 90's it is worth every penny and the seafood on St. Simons and in Brunswick are worth the trip as well.
1 year, 9 months ago on The Endless Summer Weekend on Jekyll Island
If the Montgomery Advertiser had picked the Dawgs to win the East then you would have been in trouble. It is strictly a Bammer newspaper and for decades was nothing but part of the George Wallace propaganda machine. I do think Cocky is going to be strong this year because Spurrier is so danged quiet. That's the best sign that one of his teams should have high expectations attached to it.
I figure the top spot in the East is going to go to the winner of the Georgia / South Carolina game. Second place will go to the loser of that match up. I'm just not buying the resurrection of the Gator offense. Vanderbilt could push to 4th this year, or Missouri could find its way that high so there are my #4, 5, or 6. Davis might get the Vols that high as well. God bless Stoops! He's going to need it. Cats finish 7th.
As for the West it is between Alabama and LSU. Texas A&M finishes 3rd this year. Arkansas, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Miss State will fight for the last four positions.
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It just means we should get the L out of the NCAA!
1 year, 10 months ago on It’s Sad, NCAA
@thomaslrowe @AllTideUp I think this is an interesting argument. All Tide Up would have been in agreement with our great-grandfathers who probably hated to see the old Southern Conference break apart. While we on the other hand grew up with a smaller SEC and remember all of the old rivalries. It's still hard to believe that there is no longer a wreck Tech parade at Auburn and that students today know nothing of the infamous greasing of the tracks. But, large conferences are coming back because state budgets are shrinking and in tough economic times leveraging combined power into income is a necessity.
1 year, 11 months ago on Big Ten Still Focused On The East, Commish Says
I think Delany is just keeping his profile up in a potential area for future growth with these comments. I could be surprised but it doesn't look like there will be much movement any time soon out of the ACC. If anything big happens it will likely come from the Big 12 and involve just about everybody since it takes 8 votes to dissolve the conference and end the GOR. It's true that the ACC right now stands to be last out of the Power 5 conferences in terms of revenue. However that could change significantly should they pick up Texas and or Oklahoma and friends. When the SEC seemed to be looking East we took from the West. With Delany looking East he may be eyeing Kansas, Oklahoma, or Texas or a combination of two of them. I don't think because of the Longhorns network affiliations that they would likely head to FOX country. If they move I expect it to be to a location where ESPN holds network rights and that would be either the ACC or SEC. Oklahoma I believe is with Comcast so the PAC or even the Big 10 might be hospitable in converting their network endeavors into a grander picture. How the rest falls into place would be the spectacle.
I've even heard one speculation that N.C. State and Virginia Tech could be cleared to move to the SEC should the ACC desire to expand their footprint further by taking 4 from the Big 12. I'm sure all parties would have to be willing for anything like that to happen but with ESPN holding the tabs on both conferences and perhaps looking to shelter their best product in the Big 12 from FOX that might be a possibility. Still I would believe something like that when it happens. But the idea was intriguing.
If, however, the Big 12 adds a couple of teams then I think it's all over for at least 10 years. It's just that without a network of their own, and without substantial enough targets to gain them the market presence they need, I don't think in 5 years they will be earning what the ACC does. I believe Dodds knows that and that is why they haven't wanted to expand. Add more teams and it becomes nearly impossible to place enough of them to dissolve the GOR and free Texas to escape to better academic and athletic digs. Therein lies the only realignment possibilities I see for the remaining power conferences in the present environment.
It O'Bannon wins there should be an immediate breakaway by the upper tier schools to distance themselves from the mess and to establish their own operating principles. Let the damages be paid out of the 400 million that that the NCAA has rat-holed.
2 years ago on NCAA Made Its Bed... | April | 2013 Articles
Well, now they can't afford to leave at the same time they can't afford not to. Sometimes the worst prisons are those we build for ourselves.
It takes 8 votes to dissolve the Big 12. Say hello to the new old target. If they expand they will be around a while. If they don't expand the will be absorbed by three possibly 4 conferences.
2 years ago on The ACC GoR(illa) | April | 2013 Articles
Given their glory is either in their heads or in the past I have two suggestions:
For those who think they are still relevant: Deluded and Deranged
For those who remember their past relevance: Rusty and Dusty
2 years ago on Big 10 Needs Your Help | April | 2013 Articles
@ecdawg I understand and respect your position but I just don't see F.S.U. going to the Big 12. In the long run I don't think any team that rates with ESPN will be moved to the Big 12. In fact before it's over with I expect to see the top brands removed from the Big 12.
I sure hope we know how this ends before the Summer is over. I grown more than a bit tired of it now. There is so much going on in the world, serious issues, that I'm ready for my recreation to be recreation again instead of part of the upheaval.
2 years ago on Notre Dame Re-ups with NBC Through 2025 â Whither ACC? | April | 2013 Articles
@ecdawg Whatever happens the changes themselves will tell us who has been in control of this process. If it is the conferences then the obvious targets will be the movement. Virginia and Georgia Tech to the Big 10 would be likely. North Carolina and Virginia Tech to the SEC would be what I would hope that we would get.
But E.C., if the network is control we could be looking at a whole different picture. Brands and markets would be arranged so that ESPN could significantly trim their outlay to the ACC and maximize the markets and brands that they protect within the new SECN.
North Carolina, Duke, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, and Syracuse along with F.S.U. would be those brands and markets that I think they would most like to hang onto. It's obvious now that N.D. isn't going to really be their product except nominally with half of those 5 ACC games. Therefore I don't think B.C. is something that they would seek to protect.
If Delany wanted to move to 20 he would have Miami, Boston College, and perhaps N.C. State (academics are the same as Nebraska) and maybe even Clemson to do it with. Or better for the SEC would be N.C. State, Miami, Louisville, and Clemson to the Big 12. If all the Big 10 gets out of something like this is Virginia and Georgia Tech then so be it. I just don't want them in Florida.
If the conferences are making the calls we will stay essentially a Southeastern Flagship conference. If the Network calls the shots then it's their bacon and markets we will have to absorb.
@ecdawg Yep. Funny that Rutgers didn't get any travel money isn't it. Obviously it was a payment for the previously agreed upon figure of 20 million. That said even if the figure was 30 million it won't be enough to hold frightened schools in place.
I'm still not convinced that a run on the ACC is a good thing for the SEC. I would rather see an orderly brokering of movement if it comes to that, but we'll see.
Well now that N.D. has removed itself from the possibility of helping out the ACC with any possible network deal (since they would have made the draw of such a network much more doable) it looks like the Maryland suit that E.C. points out is one of two remaining ropes to which the ACC will cling. If, or when, Maryland gets out of that suit for less than 52 million (more like 20) then the only rope left as a lifeline to the ACC will be oddly enough the SECN. If there are no piggybacks, bundles, or shared markets between the ACC and SEC then the long awaited carnage may indeed take place.
Nothing like a little roast duckling with a nice full bodied Merlot. Isn't it ironic. This time the Duck paid to take the Bird dog hunting.
2 years ago on If It Quacks like a Duck | April | 2013 Articles
The announcement has been postponed until next week due to the bombing at the Boston Marathon.
2 years ago on How ESPN Will Get Carriage for The SEC Network | April | 2013 Articles
Obviously if the room was trashed it was Manti and Lanae. They've just been separated by miles for so long and they just wanted the scouts to know that they were really together. The give away was being unavailable to talk. But seriously if a player gets that close to the Big Time and fouls it up it's the only time that I think the agent should be able to sue for damages.
2 years ago on Dumb and Dumber | April | 2013 Articles
How about we get carriage because we are the most popular college football conference in the nation according to the number of eyeballs that tune in weekly to watch our teams play. And if any cable network that seeks sales in the South doesn't carry our network sell their stock and boycott their product. It won't take them long to figure out what they have to do.
9 games is a given. Two more teams would help too. Throw in a schedule alliance with the Big 12 or ACC or both and the content picks up again. At some point in the future we will no longer be able to schedule Directional U or the State Institute of the Destitute and Disabled for homecoming either. Get rid of those rip offs to the season ticket book and you will immediately have more content to show and happier fans in the stadium.
As far as not being able to see all of the games on ESPN, ESPN2, or CBS. "Ain't nothin for free kid and dems de breaks!"
2 years ago on Will SEC Network Cannibalize Viewership | April | 2013 Articles
@ecdawg I think your angle here is correct. The question is how do they lock down that product? I think they haven't because that is the pressure for the Irish to commit fully. There are no other options for N.D. and their cache as a full member enhances the ACC tremendously, as a partial member not so much. If dangling the fear of ACC implosion gets Swarbrick to commit fully then there is the reason. An ACC with Notre Dame completely in the fold is an ACC that can also get Texas. But Texas won't come without friends. That is where the peaceful solution comes in. Should N.C. State and Virginia Tech be permitted to move to the SEC in an orderly fashion then a Kansas or Oklahoma school, or another Texas school could come with them. The ACC would lose no state from its footprint, would dilute slightly the concentration of teams from the state of North Carolina and enhance its football credentials substantially. Then without the Big 12 to pay for ESPN could infuse them with enough to make them competitive financially. The SEC and ACC could partner and off we go. If ESPN wanted to protect even more schools from the Big 12 then the SEC could move to 18 with 2 and the ACC could add 2 more. If not Larry Scott and Delany could pick over the scraps to get to 16.
The second theory, the one I put forth earlier would be that ESPN protects its most valued ACC product if it is clear that N.D. is not going to join in full. The most profitable and well watched teams from the ACC for both sports combined are in rough order: F.S.U., Clemson, North Carolina, Duke, Virginia Tech, Miami, and N.C. State. Territory they would also need to protect to remain as a valuable product in New England would be Syracuse, Pittsburgh, and Boston College in that order. I can see them letting Miami, N.C. State, and Boston College go if need be, but not the others. That leaves 7 out 15 they would need to protect so as not to lose any regional exposure or top cash makers from the lineup. I believe they would relocate those, or as many as they could to the SEC where the content for the two sports through the matchups would go through the roof and those ACC products would be even more valuable.
The snag to such a move would be the University System of North Carolina which would want the Wolfpacks inclusion somewhere. Since they don't qualify academically for the Big 10 that could be a snag. It's not clean or precise but nothing in this really as been but the gaining of A&M and Missouri. Strategically that was a masterpiece for markets.
So as I see it if N.D. commits fully ESPN does come to the rescue for the ACC. Without N.D. as an ESPN total product they don't, but will come to the rescue of the most valuable of their product in the ACC during their relocation to other ESPN friendly conferences and there is only 1 where they control enough leverage to want to place those teams and that's the SEC.
2 years ago on SEC Network Announcement Coming Tuesday | April | 2013 Articles
@ecdawg While the Big 10 could certainly pick up schools like Virginia, Georgia Tech, Duke, and possibly a Boston College (markets only add), or even a Florida State/or Miami addition should the Maryland case end with a thud for the ACC, I still contend that ESPN is not going to permit their most lucrative brands to fall into FOX hands. It's simply not logical. That is where Yoda and Lambert fall short on their predictions. There is a whole pathology in the predictions coming off of the WVU board anyway. But that's a discussion for another time and place.
I don't see Duke, North Carolina, Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech, or even N.C. State going to a FOX held conference. In fact it's the product in the Big 12 that will most likely be sheltered. Also, it is not in the interest of the SEC for the ACC to disintegrate. If we truly just want a North Carolina school and a Virginia school there are better ways to acquire them rather than letting a revenue hungry Big 10 into our backyard to try to destabilize our markets and the division of Big 12 product could make those alternative ways possible, not likely, but possible.
The ACC has existed side by side with the SEC and, other than a few years after they added F.S.U. and Miami, they have never been a threat to us. In fact because they have not been a threat we have had the perfect climate in which to grow into the premier conference in the nation. We own recruiting in our region and are expanding our base there as well. The variance of income between the ACC and SEC has helped us to thrive as well. We have never had someone who could match us dollar for dollar in our area. Why do we want the Big 10 in the South when the status quo has proven to be such a beneficial climate?
And EC another area I would disagree about is the Big 12. If the ACC implosion scenario plays out the Big 10 is going to expand to 20. ESPN will want to protect their brands and the Big 12 is no place to do it. I would say that we would match markets with the Big 10 to prevent a revenue gap from forming. Duke, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh and Syracuse would likely come into play along with F.S.U. Our taking them would be incentivized by ESPN who without the rest of the ACC to care for would have 180 million more to throw our way to make it happen. They after all will have a network to protect.
In that climate the Big 12 gets pulled apart. Why? Without having to give them a share of the future playoff money each of the surviving 60 teams (and that is what we would move to should the ACC implode) would get an additional 2 million each for simply having eliminated the 4th share of the playoff payout. So logically there is no reason to prop up the Big 12 with ACC leftovers. In fact one of the three conferences would get an extra team into the playoffs each year and the TV revenue from that spot would be a perk as well.
Slive and Delany may well sit it out while 6 or 7 of the Big 12 schools move to the PAC because by doing nothing each of their 20 schools get 2 million dollars wealthier. Texas, Texas Tech, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Iowa State could easily make the move giving Larry Scott significant exposure in the Central time zone. That more than the quality of the schools increases the PAC's content because that means through scheduling they can actually create time slots to play in that have never been there for them before.
While which teams specifically go to the Big 10 and SEC out of an ACC implosion scenario could be disputed the logic and math says that if the Big 10 moves to 20 that the income disparity in their markets with 20 and ours with 16 would create a gap that would place them financially in the drivers seat. Slive won't let that happen. So if they go to 20 we go to 20 and equalize the earning potential of our markets to theirs. And, if both the Big 10 and SEC stand at 20 the math says that there is no way for Texas and Oklahoma to compete with the earning power of either of the aforementioned. Therefore they will make a play for a merger with the PAC and will wind up taking the seven state schools. The 20th PAC team would likely be from Nevada or it could be Louisville.
My approach here is based first on what the networks would seek in order to maintain their advantages. For ESPN that means holding onto the key brands in the Southeast and Northeast so that they are not shut out of New England. For Fox that means getting into the Southeast region where they really have no presence. After that it is based on how the earnings of the PAC, Big 10, and SEC could be brought into some equilibrium. The networks have stated a desire for this to keep the regions competitive because that keeps the various populated regions watching which means ad dollars are maximized. Finally it is based on maximizing profits for the schools involved. Having only 60 teams in an upper tier does that.
The only way we ever get to a 4 x 16 model is if the ACC survives and the Big 12 is sacrificed to get everyone to the magic number. But since everyone would want Oklahoma and Kansas and possibly Texas (the SEC might not) that's why it hasn't been accomplished. But anyway that's what I think happens if the ACC implodes which I don't think it will because ESPN will not want it to implode, but they will want exclusive homes for Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, and perhaps West Virginia. Anyway we'll see. And finally what have the other sources actually been right about?
@ecdawg It will be something like one of those I mentioned although I give a low probability to additions. But on that same note any last minute monetary adjustments to the upside could include expansion. It would be a prime time to do it.
Another long shot possibility would be some kind of joint network venture with the ACC since ESPN has a vested interest in both conferences. As tight lipped as it all has been I do expect a surprise of some kind. A joint network might share market footprints and pay each conference a set fee for states they occupy and a reduced rate in the states carried by the other conference. If they worked something like that then the reduced rate would still be higher than the carriage rate outside of the natural footprint. The only reason I speculate about this is because with that the SEC would not need to expand anywhere into ACC territory and vice versa. That then makes the properties of the Big 12 targets for expansion for both conferences. Why would ESPN do that? To protect brands in the Big 12 from FOX.
Remember the talks about scheduling alliances a month or so back had all three conferences represented with the PAC as well. It could have been an effort by ESPN to move a couple of Big 12 schools to the SEC, broker the move of some to the PAC and perhaps find one or two a home in the ACC. It wouldn't hurt the ACC to have 16 full members and N.C. as a hybrid. Like I said I'm just speculating and way out of the box at that. We'll see on Tuesday.
The most interesting details I will be listening for on Tuesday is what Slive meant when two weeks ago he announced that this press conference was forthcoming and that it would include details on substantial enhancements to the content to be provided.
Now he could have been intimating that news would be revealed of a new 9 conference game format. Or that a scheduling alliance has been reached with the Big 12, the ACC, or both. Or it could be the format he has chosen to announce a couple of additions to the conference family.
The headquarters for the SECN will be in Charlotte. That is logistically understandable for those helping to produce the product, but it also raises some questions since it is outside of the SEC's current footprint.
I think the information about the revenue projections and other numbers in the deal will be important, of course, but that the real news will be centered around the "content enhancements" that Slive has alluded to. I think we will know a lot more about the direction and composition of the conference by Tuesday afternoon.
The EOG at Auburn couldn't find their butts with both hands, let alone a bottle in the purse of a coed entering Jordan Hare. It smells like another kick back type deal to me and not one cooked up by the Chiz. My suspect would be Jacobs.
Anyway, that's a lot of money to check up on players beds, but not a lot to check up on coaches beds...
2 years ago on Auburn Spent 75 Grand on Bed Checks | April | 2013 Articles
They'll only ask a favor of Saban once and then he will find an Elephant head in his bed. Seriously it seems to me that those leaving the NCAA are positioning themselves to be a transitional team for the breakaway to form an upper division that is coming.
2 years ago on Auburn Hires Consigliere | April | 2013 Articles
@Junkyardawg41 @ecdawg @JRsec @alabamadawg The issues are several. First there was no specificity about what was agreed with. Second there was no enumeration of the points disagreed with, or confounded by. And third was the all too familiar insinuation that someone you disagree with is somehow dangerous. That's what is crazy here and it has no place in a world which is struggling to communicate meaningfully and in one where individual freedoms are rapidly disappearing.
There are no longer avenues for civil discussion. If one disagrees with someone else you simply insult them. In logic an ad hominem is used when there is no rational rebuttal of the point that was tendered. It is always a non starter for meaningful discussion about any subject.
Today there are many who benefit by not having to explain their positions. They simply skate by towing whatever line is most popular at the moment. That is a dangerous way to live. People who are fickle about their approval and disapproval are frequently those who do actually abuse others. Those who have learned the art of discussion and have developed their own moral parameters which are then consistently adhered to are the least likely to ever threaten another either physically or emotionally.
What irritates me the most is that someone who doesn't know me, but rather just disagrees with my position responds with what in my day was an irrational personal affront followed by a declaration against the character of someone he does not know.
My comments were generalizations pushed for the purposes of sarcasm. His was a specific verbal assault. It has become the favorite tactic of those who seek to silence rational discussion about the most important topics of our day. The MO is to single out the person who doesn't hold the corporate publicly pushed view and to label them as "crazy" or dangerous. It then makes the real assault against their rights and their person more palatable and possible for those threatened by their point of view.
The tactic was perfected in Germany and was used to neutralize enemies of the state who could be anyone who questioned one of the many questionable acts of a criminal regime.
Our forefathers understood when they protected speech that the cessation of freedom speech is always the catalyst for irrational behavior. But forgive me. I was raised in an era where what one thought was far more important than what one felt and a heckuva lot more dependable and trustworthy.
I prefer the admonishment of a well reasoned adversary over the praise of those who feel for the moment that I am right. The well reasoned adversary will at least be consistent.
The shutting down of discussion, the inability of the younger generation to deal with face to face differences and their preference to hide behind their electronics where they don't have to be held personally accountable for their remarks and actions, and face no public correction of their wrongs, the use of the press to tell us who not to like and who to mistrust when we have never met them, all of it is a hallmark for the decline of civilization and the seeds for the demise of personal liberty for each of us.
I raised children, helped grandchildren, sent kids who were not my own to school, negotiated some large corporate transactions, set time aside for social service, and have never had the occasion for a physical response against another. Arguments yes but usually resolved or ended with the agreement to disagree. Respect for others is the catalyst for peace. But the desire to marginalize another in an effort to either take from them something that is rightfully theirs whether that is property or their good name means that you respect the rights of no one and that your rights may well be forfeit tomorrow should you ever say anything that your social monitors disagree with. And buddy that kind of life is a miserable one to live.
I pray for this country and for those presently leading it because if the present state of discourse, reason, and respect continues to fail at the epidemic rate which I witness today we are in bigger trouble than any of us think and the history of the demise of other great civilizations bears that out. From the way workers are treated at the lowest level of corporate America to the upper echelons of leadership teams personal loyalty and integrity are a thing of the past. Cynicism reigns supreme and you can't build community on mistrust, a future on doubt, or a life in isolation.
2 years ago on Who Thinks Players Should Be Paid? | April | 2013 Articles
@KellyJones2 @Bronxvillepeter Good for you KellyJones2 you beat me to it. 99% of those who post about academic fit have not one clue what they are talking about. F.S.U. was the second worst academic school in the ACC. There research spending is nowhere near AAU levels and their post graduate degree programs aren't in line either. That said they are a solid school, but hardly elite.
2 years ago on FSU A.D. Spetman Talks Openly About Switching Conferences… And The SEC
@WaterlooDawg Bammers are never confused on that issue. What could confuse them? They've always been paid!
@alabamadawg There can only be two reasons for your reply. 1. Your are a COLA loving member of Higher Education. 2. You were absent the day that people learned how to use sarcasm to make multiple points by developing one story line. Generally speaking if part of the reasoning is spot on and some seems crazy that is a fairly good indication that something a little different is going on.
Red State versus Blue State is always a good clue. Using it to discuss the true opponents of stipends is the sarcasm.
Adding that education, for those who apply themselves, is a form of payment might best reflect what I believe the best form of payment happens to be.
COLAS are in essence just another form of a living stipend adjustment so the irony (if not blatant hypocrisy) of giving the richest at the schools those while denying living expenses to the players is core of the sarcasm.
Wrapping it in terms of Servant / Dependent versus free was simply the overlay of Jeffersonian ideals onto the situation to illustrate how far we've wandered away from our national identity which given the issues of the day is also a form of sarcasm.
You've been in Alabama too long there Dawg! The last discussion I had with an Alabama grad at a tailgating extravaganza ended when he pointed to his new grill and said, "Ughh! Fire Good!"
Well.....most of the blue states like subsidies and most of the red states pay taxes and work (Texas excluded I don't know why they went blue on this.) But North Carolina, Virginia, and Missouri have all been voting for subsidies these past 5 years now. I wouldn't have expected anything else from them.
So how does this relate to football? In the blue states people tend to think that those best able to perform should subsidize those that don't and in the red states we look for the top people, whom we are willing to pay, so that they might be encouraged to perform at peak so as to earn by their own efforts the fruits of their labor whether that be education or simple income.
In essence it boils down to a very old debate and one for which many conflicts have been waged. Does a man have the right to enjoy the fruits of his mind and labors, or does the state have the right to use that man and his thoughts and labors to consolidate their power by taking from the productive to buy the favors of the majority who are always less inclined to risk failure or to dare success and so settle for less.
The struggles in football, as in all human endeavors, only serves to illustrate the world in which we live. Any man who works only to have his fruit taken for another's use is not free. And, any man who takes another's fruits is not free. For the former is a servant and the latter a dependent and by definition neither are free.
I find it hypocritical that professors want their COLAS every year whether their departments enrolled more or less students and whether those they have educated produce with their education, or do not. Yet they are the very ones who raise the most issues over the Cost Of Living Adjustments the student athletes are looking for. Hmm......I guess most of our college professors are blue staters after all!
The agenda is fairly obvious. It's close to signing day. These stories have been around in the hopper for a while now. Is it any wonder they are broken a week before signing time. Who might be behind that? Nothing has changed since Bear. I traveled the Southeast for two decades and there was only one clean coach and one clean program I ran across in that time span, Bill Curry at Georgia Tech. The cheating at Alabama has a zipper on it because the players are afraid of retaliation against family members should they step out of line. The same type of system exists for other SEC universities with law schools. Law grads have a way of winding up in the state legislatures where they can do all sorts of favors for their alma maters. The recent MO for Tide cheating involves jobs for family members. It won't be investigated because it seems to originate inside state offices. The NCAA isn't going to crack that. It was a trick learned while Saban was under Emmert at L.S.U.. But I doubt the investigative journalists that depend on a living inside their home states want to pursue that. There is little future in it.
Is Auburn dirty? Yes they have been. Are they dirtier than most of the other conference teams? No So why do they get caught? Part of it is as John points out.... they talk. Maybe that goes back to Eric Ramsey who got paid to talk. Maybe that's because those who do can earn state favors from happy Tide alums with connections in government too. All I've got to say is that there is far more dirt nationwide that these so called journalists are afraid to touch. Synthetic marijuana is nothing compared to prostitution, harder drugs than pot, and gambling influences that are still clinging to the athletes from one coast to the other.
The NCAA returns to Auburn, S.M.U., Arizona State and the like because they are easy targets without great political connections. Attacking one of those whipping boys is like the police rounding up the usual suspects when you don't really want to find out who committed a crime. Auburn got a pass with Cam Newton mostly because the story was set up by two former Alabama football players and because Mississippi State was guilty of wrongdoing as well. Throw in the inability to get the supposed "bag man" to talk and a guy with FBI connections clearing them and you might say all was well and the charges were trumped up. I would just remind everyone that at the time this was all happening an Auburn man was the President of the United State's Press Secretary. Maybe they had a little political cover after all.
Auburn is a great place and a great school. Many of my family have attended and graduated from Auburn. In fact several generations worth. I met my wife while at Auburn. But as I learned up close and first hand in my travels they are not and never have been the cleanest of programs, but neither have their cousins and brothers in the conference. They just lack heavy duty political cover. If that is to change they should open their own law school and seek to outnumber Bama grads in the State House. Then maybe a week before signing day the stories would be breaking about the Tide. If not, at least they wouldn't still be breaking about Auburn.
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@ecdawg A reasonable explanation E.C.. But, the collateral reasons are usually the ultimate goal, not the stated ones. We have a lost pair of teenagers in a national park in California right now. One of the stated purposes of the drones was to help in such cases. However, no search by drones has been stated to be in use for those kids. The push for a cashless society is to help stop counterfeiting and black market operations. The result will be that no transactions may occur without electronic approval whether you are a faithful citizen or a crook.
Recently, and less broad in scope and a little less paranoid in appearance, there were court cases to determine the liability of the use of any corporate product. The aim of the case was to limit the liability of the corporation which produced the product by legally limiting its transfer from the purchaser to a third party and by passing the liability that could arise from their products misuse (or liability from such in the case of third party transfer) onto the user or owner who makes the transfer of the product to a third party. Subtly, the issue at stake in the case was does the ownership of the product remain with the manufacturer and was the purchaser only purchasing the right to use the product while the rights to the product itself remains with the manufacturer or does the purchaser actually own the product.
This sounds very much like the ticket case. If the use of the product is all that the purchaser retains then corporations have won the right to claim all property they produce in perpetuity. Furthermore, they gain the right to revoke the use by the purchaser for the way in which they use the product, for the product itself if no longer used, or to recall their product and demand its turnover at any time. It in essence is a way for corporations to claim that individuals own nothing. Legal precedent could favor this outcome because of property tax laws. We buy houses but they are not ours. What we have really done is to purchase the right to pay taxes in perpetuity upon a piece of land with a structure that we utilize. We may transfer that liability to our heirs but at any point if the taxes are not paid even though the original purchase is paid for, the property is seized. So at the heart of this issue is the individuals right to own and exercise his or her control over anything. Ultimately the precedent is what they are after, not the scalpers or brokers. Smoke that over for a while and extrapolate that in the broader terms and i believe you will find it be as insidious as I find it. It is especially alarming within the government/corporate climate in which we live today.
2 years ago on Digital Tickets are Death to Ticket Brokers | April | 2013 Articles
I either own the ticket or I don't. I danged sure don't want to donate to an athletic fund if I can't easily give tickets to the games I don't wish to attend to grandchildren, friends, or a bum at Kroger if I so choose. Athletic departments, corporations, and every Tom, Richard, and Harry under the sun shouldn't have the right to tell me what I can do with what I have purchased.
This is a growing encroachment upon the liberty of the individual and if it comes to this they have gotten the last dime I'll ever give them. They will also find that the venues will be emptier when a person simply can't give away their tickets when something comes up at the last moment. When I give tickets away those are persons who attend that buy $4 cokes eat $3 hot dogs buy $5 programs, and fill what would have been an empty seat for the television folks to stay happy. These greedy control freaks need to consider that before enacting this garbage.
In most states there are still laws on the books against scalping. Enforce those! But leave the common fan the dignity and ability to transfer their tickets with ease.
Well like football the SEC is very strong on the diamond. But unlike football there aren't any real surprises. The haves still have and the have not's still don't. Georgia, Auburn and Missouri are struggling and L.S.U., Vanderbilt, Kentucky, S. Carolina, Arkansas, Ole Miss and Mississippi State are not. Florida, Alabama, Tennessee and Texas A&M are in the hunt.
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@buddha22 You are correct. There are two points that Coach K. didn't state. First, the basketball first conference has been inequitably sustained with football revenue from Florida State, Clemson, Virginia Tech and to a lesser extent by N.C. State, Georgia Tech and Miami. Second, there are schools in the ACC that aren't football first but would at least desire to be football equal, Miami, Pittsburgh, and North Carolina. If you lose Clemson, Virginia Tech, and Florida State then you will lose at least Miami, Georgia Tech and eventually North Carolina & N.C. State. Then what kind of conference would you have left. I think Duke and Wake Forest should go to the C7 and forget about football. Then the ACC could backfill with Connecticut and Cincinnati and at least have a more balanced conference athletically. It won't happen of course, but it would help them with balance.
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@converted 1981 I agree with your assessment Converted. But, that said, if any conference could pull it off it would be the SEC. We have the advantage of having the best kids want to play for us. So if we could enforce it among our own coaches that month would not cost us any of our prime prospects going to another conference. Other conferences don't have that largess. Plus, I wonder if the recruits wouldn't like a break too!
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A happy and blessed Easter to all at LHB and to EC and family!
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Kudos! I hope there is better officiating against the Bears than LSU got. Elbows, shoves, muggings under the LSU basket and touch fouls called on the Tigers. It was a shameful exhibition for bias in officiating.
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If markets are the driving factor for realignment (and they are) then the driver for realignment is definitely the Networks and not the Conferences. Conferences are interested in their paycheck and scheduling. Networks are the ones that want the markets in order to maximize advertising revenue which of course enables them to pay the conferences more which drives realignment. Conferences don't pursue what is not rewarded. Now with that in mind the idea is that eventually the SEC and Big 10 will cross each others boundaries in mutual agreement in order to maximize the bottom line.
In theory the Big 10 wants to move South along the coast to maximize eyeballs. The SEC will need to move North along the coast to do the same. Such speculation might yield the following type of conference model:
Big 10 South:
Duke, Georgia Tech, Clemson, Florida State, Virginia
B.C. or UConn, Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Purdue
Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin
Kentucky, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Mississippi State, North Carolina, N.C. State, Tennessee
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Missouri, Texas A&M
Arizona, Arizona State, Miami, Texas, Texas Tech
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State
California, U.C.L.A., U.S.C., Stanford, Utah
Colorado, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State
With this model both the Big 10 and SEC have 16 states in their footprints and probably the closest thing to an equal market as they can come. The PAC would have a footprint of 11 states, but with Miami (a team with some national cache who has to fly everywhere they play anyway) they gain two of the largest markets with Texas and Florida.
Each team listed would earn more from the additions of the new markets to their conferences. The PAC is at a disadvantage that is imposed upon them with geography. But the earning potential has a big upside. It is not inconceivable that in this model the payout to all of the 60 schools would exceed 50 million.
The losers would be: (Boston College or Connecticut, Cincinnati, Baylor, B.Y.U., Louisville, South Florida, and Texas Christian. Just a few years ago none of those would really have been considered top tier programs.
I would suspect that Notre Dame would attach itself to one division of one of the conferences and would only gain entry to the playoffs by winning that division. Their other 7 games would be divided between schools from the other two conferences and would alternate 3 from one and 4 from the other every two years.
If not this kind of arrangement then one like it will eventually emerge. The SEC, Big 10 and PAC have networks. The Networks direct those conference networks. The Networks want healthier competition and they think that it may be manufactured by equalizing markets, earnings, and recruiting access. There is simply no way to do that with a Big 12 that has now way of reasonably growing its weak footprint, or a PAC without access to the Midwest.
With the ACC the reality has been from the beginning that their banner schools had more value matched up with bigger names from the respective sports. The Networks believed that the only way to maximize interest in the viewers of the Atlantic Coast would be to tie them into the passion of the SEC and Big 10 fan bases. These conceptions, or misconceptions, have been driving realignment since the Big 10 added Penn State. Since the Networks have reasons to relocate ACC teams in an effort to energize their audiences and see no potential in a Big 12 network with no real market I believe we will eventually move to 3 conferences. 20 allows each conference to break down into 4 distinct regions which is believed will help preserve local flavor and rivalries while creating a natural internal playoff format within the conferences. Remember too the economy is shrinking which is another reason the final number of upper tier schools is likely to be smaller for now rather than larger. We'll see.
2 years ago on UNC to SEC in 2014? | March | 2013 Articles
Would I like to believe that North Carolina and Virginia Tech will be in the SEC in 2014 and that we will somehow move to 4 sixteen member conferences? Yes
Do I believe it? No
Why? Well, first of all the University System of North Carolina will want N.C. State to land as nice a spot in realignment as the Heels should U.N.C. move to the SEC. Would the Big 10 invite N.C. State? Not likely. They might invite Duke since they are a national brand and are AAU. I think the price tag for North Carolina moving to the SEC will be that the SEC has to take another North Carolina traveling companion, N.C. State. I believe this because the monetary difference between the SEC and Big 12 will be too great for the Big 12 to be considered a nice spot for the Wolfpack. I also don't believe that JIm Delany will be satisfied with just Virginia and Georgia Tech. I think he will connect them with Duke should North Carolina and N.C. State opt for the SEC. I also do not believe that if the SEC takes two Carolina schools that they will give up on a presence in Virginia. The question will be who moves with the Hokies as #18 for the SEC and who moves with Duke as #18 for the Big 10? Which also begs another question, "How badly does Delany want into the state of Florida?" Does he want the Sunshine state enough to take non-AAU Florida State? If he does will Slive take F.S.U. as a defensive move or look to add yet another profitable market? If the answer is a defensive one then F.S.U. will be the SEC's #18. If not then Pitt would be profitable, just not a good fit.
A move to 18 by both the SEC and Big 12 will mean that the Big 12 will be locked into an also ran status versus those two power conferences. A move to 20 by both the Big 10 and SEC would doom the Big 12 and likely move us to 3 twenty team conferences in which each school earns minimally 2 million more per year from the absorbed playoff payout of what would have been the fourth conference.
The financial incentives are in place for an expanding Big 10 and SEC to work for the destruction of the Big 12 following the ACC's demise.
So I don't believe that the SEC and Big 10 stop at 16 and that 6 teams move to the Big 12 from the ACC so that we can have a 4 x 16 model. Where would the PAC find 4 suitable teams?
I wish Yoda was right, but my head tells me he is not.
2 years, 1 month ago on UNC to SEC in 2014? | March | 2013 Articles
There are several odd and random messages here.
1. If you want to protect your schools from moves to other conferences then discourage them from hiring presidents and upper administration that have major ties to competitor conferences. That will only make it tougher for competitors to gain traction.
2. The Federal Government of today protects those who pay them the most. As long as the cable networks line their pockets there will be no major shift in the way we do business. Especially now that cable models are tied to teacher's retirement pay in many key states.
3. What they need to fear is the destruction of the grass roots ability to pay for services. I know we are still riding the crest of sports popularity from a contract standpoint, but demographics indicate a major shift away from as much of a sports centered culture in the coming years. All indications are that people from the Boomer and X'er's generations are beginning to prefer HD TV to the stadium hassle, and that generation Y has a tough time affording the tickets, and that the subsequent generations who are in High School now show little enthusiasm for traditional sports. Basketball and Baseball have already taken hits and in this demographic football does as well. Now whether that is like the decline we saw twenty years ago in hunting and fishing as a participation activity where the decline was more tied to the availability of public access to land and water upon which to hunt and fish, meaning the decline of those resources coupled with economics, or is simply a lifestyle choice remains to be seen. I tend to think that football is too expensive for many young boys to play today. Equipment costs, medical risks, and time investment are just too much for many families to afford either monetarily or commitment wise. I think football is peaking, and while it will not suffer the extent of decline that baseball and basketball are experiencing I think it could easily return to 1960's levels of popularity within two decades. Since we sign contracts for 15 years this will prove to be a problem in the not too distant future. If they want to complete realignment and a breakaway from the NCAA to maximize profits in all sports they better do it sooner rather than later. The immediacy of the financial advantage to do so won't be there in the not too distant future.
4. In the end this realignment will have more to do with which institutions of higher learning are set aside and protected from a major downturn in the State and Federal funding of higher education than it has to do with sports. Corporate television contracts will ultimately act as an umbrella for them when the economic storm and technological shifts that are brewing hit higher education. Higher Education has been a Boomer driven bubble as well. Future generations are already weighing cost versus advantage when it comes to higher education. Automation is decreasing worker value. Over population is another destructive ingredient to wage power. And the types of jobs that are financially rewarding are becoming more specified and limited. Therefore broad based educations, while personally valuable, are not necessarily rewarding in the market place. It's a perfect storm for the ultimate culling of universities and colleges. Those with other than federal and state funding (corporate funding to be precise) will survive.
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Mr. SEC did a piece in which the inverse proportions between SEC football championships and the decline in tournament invitations from the 6 we once averaged to the 3 we have this year shows that as we won football championships our number of invitations to the tournament have declined. His faulty reasoning (except) for this year was that it was because our product quality was down. However we are tied for the most titles in the last ten years and in the last twenty years. Those receiving the most invitations annually have seldom won a title.
That is why in our household we refer to the NCAA basketball tournament as Yankee Welfare. I challenge people to go back and not only look at the number of bids each conference receives but the seeding as well. The Big 10 annually gets about as many, or more seeds than the Big East and now the A10. All yankee schools. The number of titles those the Big 10 has won in the last decade is 1 while the SEC has won 4. Only the Big east won as many as the SEC. Yet we get no tournament respect and this year we had the rug pulled out from under us because of Calipari's 1 and done stunt. In those 10 years SEC teams have rarely received that quarter million dollar bye with a number 1 or 2 seed. We usually start at a 3 seed and have about half of our teams playing in the 7 or 8 seed spot. Those seeds of course are notoriously tough because there are many 9 seeds from other conferences that were runners up in their league or viable West coast teams. Hardly a guarantee of another 1/4 million. The Big 10 this year was gifted their first round games in which several of their teams struggled despite having high seeds. Then when the beat nobody U the announcers proclaim their strength. .
Like I said, the NCAA whose allegiance has always permitted the football cheats up North to skate by lightly on sanctions while hammering Southern teams most times (and Miami is not a Southern team) uses basketball to make up for the money earned by SEC teams in football. Therefore it is as I claimed, "yankee welfare". They try to do the same with the Baseball tournament, but when the Southeastern, ACC, and Big 12 schools get through the first round their just usually aren't many yankee teams left. Hurrah!
2 years, 1 month ago on There Is Money in That Tournament | March | 2013 Articles
I've held season football tickets for almost 40 years. I am a former season basketball ticket holder, and with the exception of a couple of years have been a long time holder of season baseball tickets for my SEC school. For about 32 years the football tickets were a joy. Then the stadium atmosphere changed. I had a little trouble getting use to corporate signs everywhere, but I understand that you have to pay the bills. Then came the piped in artificial noise. After 30 plus years of sitting with friends and enjoying their pregame conversations and being able to comment on plays during the game the shift to the constant blaring of the same few bars of obnoxious music that is replicated in stadium after stadium started. Monkey see monkey do culture took over. Quite frankly my wife and I are about to decide to throw in the towel on the games. It's not the money for the tickets as we can afford them, it's not the flock of tailgaters that arrive early stake out claims to land that is not theirs with crime seen tape and who leave their garbage behind when their sorry butts leave after the game, it is the total lack of social interaction with old friends (which we consider to be extended family after 3 decades) that is driving not only our family, but their families away from the games. We once liked to hear the band strike up the fight song after a score, now its piped in noise. We once liked to listen to the announcements that were made which still take place, but are drowned out by the piped in noise. Like everything else in our society we must have frenetic energy artificially supplied for fat kids pimped out on junk food and mind numbed by constant artificial stimulation. They don't have the money to afford the donations that are required to purchase season books. I do, and many in my age demographic are hanging it up because our donations and our loyalty and our faithful attendance through thin and thick is no longer appreciated or pandered to in the least.
Basketball I gave up on when touch fouls were called on the perimeter while gang style muggings took place with no whistle under the basket. I gave up on it when I watched supposedly stellar ball handlers constantly palm the ball, and outstanding scorers taking 3 and sometimes 4 steps on the way to the hoop with no call for travelling. There is so little team offense and defense played in the SEC today that is just one among many reasons for the decline of our product. Many of our teams have 5 high school stars that run wild, ignore open teammates, drive on planted defenders, and take shots before anyone is in place for a rebound. Both the Kentucky and Missouri losses were rife with this kind of play. Seemingly so far only Florida is immune to this disease in our conference. The Big 10 doesn't have the athletes we do, but most of their teams look disciplined. Even their big guys play their assignments. There is the difference. I'll add to my observations that officiating is getting worse even with an extra man on the court.
Baseball, what was one of the last true college sports, is beginning to suffer declines in enjoyment as well. A few years ago the #$@% piped in music found its way into that venue as well. Then the wrap around netting went in obscuring the view and enjoyment of the fans all out of fear of a liability that has been openly accepted by ball fans for a century. Then the grassy areas around the stadium were paved over and turned into commercial ventures. The unforeseen problem with this move is that it has forced the small children who once chased down foul balls and had a great time at the game into the stands with adults who once watched and talked about the game and had a great time as well. Now the children are miserable and the adults are as well and attendance is way down. The tickets are about the same price they have been for a decade. It's the mindless moves by the Athletic Department that must have a monkey see monkey do copycat of someone else's lousy idea so that it looks like we are keeping up that is ruining what was once one of my most cherished afternoon experiences.
We will probably opt for the HD Television experience by next year. We are giving football and baseball one more chance this season. We are in good health and could (if blessed) expect to be season ticket holders for another decade, or maybe two. We are not alone in our feelings and ticket sales everywhere reflect that. I would be interested to see the demographics on who is dropping their ticket purchases. I'd bet the are X'ers, and Boomers. When they drive us away with everything artificial and obnoxious who are going to buy the tickets? These poor young kids about to start their adult life won't have the earning potential that we did. And, many of them would rather play video games than attend, or play in, a real one. After all they may get hit by a foul ball, or bang their head while playing.
The only valid difference between football and basketball in the SEC right now is that people still care about football. Basketball as we once enjoyed it is long gone. Attendance reflects this and therefore investment will.
2 years, 1 month ago on Since January Of 2007 SEC Football Has Gone Up, SEC Basketball Has Come Down
Well deserved! Now that's one group of wet Dogs that everyone would love to be around!
2 years, 1 month ago on Dawgs are National Champs | March | 2013 Articles
Bammer talking trash about an enemy? Manziel will be fine. Fans everywhere need to quit looking to athletes to be role models and just enjoy watching them play. Manziel will be fine because it is very evident he loves playing. People who love to play don't fear mistakes, take a few more risks, and when they have real talent the risks pay off more often than not. Bammer has to go to Aggieville with an inexperienced offensive line this year. I imagine they are nervous about that. A&M will be back and probably better. But, they won't be sneaking up on anyone this year either. The West is going to be tough again this year. L.S.U. & A&M will battle the Tide for the top spot. Ole Miss, Arkansas and Auburn will be improved. We'll be watching to see who the Dogs play in December.
2 years, 1 month ago on Will Manziel Implode? | March | 2013 Articles
I've given his sentence a lot of thought. I came up with two fitting assessments that are much more just than 6 actual months for being a destructive moron.
1. Environmental Public Service. I had in mind being the subject chained to old growth trees in the Pacific Northwest in an effort to stop the large tree harvesters from completing their work. This both removes him from the Southeast and terrorizes his sorry butt at the same time. It also provides the greatest possibilities for him to learn all the facets of the term "soil awareness".
2. Make him stand at Toomers for three years on Saturdays following sporting events of any kind with his arms held out and up in his best tree position so that the Aubie's of the world could roll him.
Either way this idiot and others like him would be more likely to be deterred from a mindless act that harmed a portion of the public's good than a cheap six months and a curfew provides. There is nothing in this sentence that will keep an Aubie idiot from going after Denny Chimes, or a Nerd from the famed Arch at Georgia, or a trailor park Dog wannabe from the Car the bumbles drive, or any of the above from deep frying Cocky.
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