I kind of lied about knowing @mattcutts .... since he did attend college fairly close to my hometown and I have many close Mfriends who share the same Alma mater: The University of Kentucky. We are sort of friends by association. I'm not trying to brag but...I might add this to my LinkedIn profile.
@Joshua Wilner/A Writer Writes @margieclayman a gordian knot -- exactly that!
@PointA_PointB i find solutions to be very fascinating. it's extremely easy to point out and examine problems. but getting out and OVER is something that is worth the effort, no matter how much. i like creative solutions. puzzles.
@margieclayman i think a lot of us are scared to rock the boat, to become a voice of activism - but that's exactly what we need. And you absolutely have my respect for adding your voice to the chorus and stating your concerns.Also, yes I share your disbelief that the entire landscape of social media users and leaders in America are reviewed for these lists. I am 100% confident there is abundant diversity in this space even in niches like "marketers on twitter" or "sales pros on linkedin"....There is more to choose from and a bigger variety of leaders to highlight than what we're getting.And I think that NYT article my friend Jordan contributed is a telling tale as well... http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/05/how-social-networks-drive-black-unemployment/?hp <--- for anyone who wanted a second dimension on this dicussion...
So....in that vein, can we, as users, urge collaboration between these top american outlets and top (hate using this divisive term, but) ethnic american outlets to start combining influencers into more accurate "best of" lists? That seems like a doable baby step forward.
@Danny Brown @thebrandbuilder i definitely read both of these Danny (and Olivier). So I'm glad you brought the links into this discussion. I hate how the social web is so fractured. But I love how there are many who go out of their way to point out the old habits of our culture, too. Yeah, no extra comments here, just a bunch of compliments.
You've articulated a thought that I've had on simmer for a few "list cycles" Marjorie. I admit to scanning the power influencer and most notable lists first for the (for lack of a better term) variety, before going back to comb through for the familiar.
I often used these lists when starting out in social media, to discover accounts that I thought would bring added value to my twitter feed. Lots of them WERE good follows and I'm happy to call some of these guys my friends today.
I know now the lists serve as another layer of marketing in so many cases they need to be taken with a grain of salt. But I also know people are on-boarding and looking for the "directions" and these lists are somewhat of a starting point and an inspiration for brands and individuals who want to make the biggest impressions. In the end, i remind myself that people are people no matter where you put them. If we're looking at an American outlet, it's going to review and congratulate American members. But if we look at Asian, European, Australian, Middle Eastern outlets, I would expect that they will also highlight those in their member base, too. I think we have to be the change we want. When we start pushing for a true amalgamation of global social, we will start seeing the information we consume addressing more global interests. Did that even make sense? I know what I'm trying to say, but it's hard to make it sound easy.
@AmyMccTobin @jureklepic @Danny Brown it think whatever conversations we have, given that ours is a fractured, young industry, might be moot in the larger SM community until there is a "governing/accrediting" structure in place for SM Pros. What say you? Social Media Professionals of America? As yet, there isn't a "badge" one can flash to be taken as a credible SM Professional. PRSA has APR accreditation, and IABC has its own process. Food for thought.
@prosperitygal I agree, taht line has to be defined by the individual, but also to a certain point by the SM Pro community at large: when you make yourself a personal Brand, these are the qualities we're applying to you, these are the perceptions that go along with that.
I think making clear distinctions between "person FOR brand" and "person AS brand" is essential for us in the public space to move forward. We should set a definitive social media policy, huh?
Maybe i'm calling for regulation when really people should just apply a "common decency" filter to their own mouths though...
I think people are swayed by their own aversion to be odd-one-out and follow along with the few fierce loyalists, and that's what fills out the mob. It's sickening to watch the mob take shape, but if you've watched the movie "Mean Girls" you can see why one person, after winning over a few key leading leaders, can manipulate a whole mob to their will.
In the landscape of Social Media, we have to even add more questions: how personal can we be in our Professional Brand? Because we like to see ourselves as "genuine" and taking one comment over the line is what gets us in trouble. We have to decide whether we, as Personal Brands, can be our true, complete, unmasked selves, or if we need to tailor ourselves into our Brand, removing the extreme or offensive opinions and actions from our whole being, knowing we represent our Personal Brands 24/7.
These are easy questions to answer in relation to a Corporate Brand. But Personal Brands are in a gray, undefined area right now, which you've uncovered with this post, Amy.
I will also never understand how to format a comment on Livefyre without losing my line breaks...
I will never understand how people can buy into their own hype. I just don't understand it, and I never will.It's all i can comment right now. I didn't know that exchange took place but as we enter this medium, and connect with people with such vast experience outside social media, how can any user think anyone with expertise about good conduct has already joined and created little empires (as i trail off into a ranting, raving, mumbling tangent...) ??Bringing it back to the point - I just don't get how people get convinced that their own hype is true and genuine? It's just a number beside your name. Settle down.
I agree with this - I actually just tweeted my first swear word over the weekend of almost 18,000 tweets. It didn't feel great, but I felt it was appropriate for the subject. I went back to my original purpose for creating my Twitter account before pressing the "publish" button. I weighed my words against the image I wanted to project and decided it was in support of that image.I agree with you totally Peg - people participating in the public conversation need to be mindful of the fact that people are forming opinions about them at all times.
Being a pet360 fan, I loved reading this story. Your transition into community management was so natural (even through its snags). This is the type of story that lots of us can relate to.
Make like a baby and head out!
To your #9 comment (Serving) I think this is the best way to lead in this day in age. A leader that is perceived as "out of touch" can only pass judgement and blurt out far-reaching goals......but for what? When the leader has no concept of the concerns of those he/she is leading, their advice and "wisdom" is nothing more than so much hot air. For the leader to make the impact he/she wants to make, their connection to their constituents HAS to remain strong. it is entirely possible to be humble without being weak. The leader who serves is the one who knows WHAT can be accomplished and HOW. That is powerful.
Ha!A A good dose of reality for those of us thinking we can get fancy during the holidays.But i will say, everything I learned about cooking, i learned from Rachel Ray, Ina Garten, Nigella Lawson and Alton Brown. I was a complete and total terror in the kitchen until I just took a minute to learn not to be afraid of my stove :)
I'm gonna comment in both places - I don't know why. But I've already checked out Emily Gold's blog through this one. I love surfing blogs, so Triberr is perfect for me int hat regard :)
Oh @margieclayman ...... so selfless. I was thinking of Trey recently, and am glad you posted this link here. Thank you for reminding us to think outside our own needs.
Interestingly, I'd include "Hey Whipple...Squeeze This!" In this list - copywriting is one of the most interesting examples of concise yet compelling storytelling for brands. Good one, Ric!
@ginidietrich For me, it's both expected and sad to know that a woman on a fast career track is still something to study like a lab rat. what if we poke her .......here? how will.........OFFSPRING effect her trajectory?