Nate Ingle
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I like how they haven't struck that much yet. There are so many players they can make a move on cheap. I also like that they are talking with Vince Young about a possible workout. I think that will give them some leverage for Palmer to take a pay cut, especially if the workout is great. If Palmer doesn't take a pay cut, I bet they could trade him at the salary he's supposed to make (Arizona or Buffalo would be a good fit).
They just announced the signing of LB Kaluka Maiava (Cleveland), defensive tackle Pat Sims (Cincy) and defensive end Jason Hunter (Denver).
Other Free Agents I think they should look at that they could sign cheap:
Karlos Dansby at LB.
Cary Williams would be a good pick up at CB from the Ravens.
They can also look at Alan Branch (DT, SEA), or Ricky Jean-Francois. A sleeper back up/potential starter is Amobi Okoye (DT, CHI). At DE, we could be waiting to see what Denver does with Dumervil. That would be money worth spending.
Chris Ivory would make a great backup to McFadden. There are a plethora of safeties that we can pick up cheap that are young. Corey Lynch (SD), Quentin Demps (Hou), Josh Barrett (NE), Sharrod Marting (Car), and Bernard Pollard (Bal); to name a few. There is also the possibility of looking at different holes to fill from the CFL. A CB that may be worth looking at is Deon Beasely. He is a heavy hitter, and probably could play safety.
Another way you can tell this is not ZBS, is by the lineman leaving their "zone" to follow through the blocks they are engaged in, and not picking up players coming into their zone. For instance: Veldheer does not leave his block to pick up the Carter (#54) or Timmons (#94) until McFadden is through the hole, and immediately releases (pics #3-6). If it were ZBS, he'd more focus on Timmons, and try and push him into Carter. They were still in his "zone" when he released, and unless he ran up field (which he doesn't), he shouldn't have released until the whistle blew, and again, Carlisle is not in his "zone" while helping Veldheer.
Not too mention Wiz on the NT, who is clearly continuing a block that Briesel should have taken from him when the NT enters into his zone, but Briesel is still on his guy who is in Bergstrom's zone, and Bergstrom is out of position blocking up field on a LB.
So if it was ZBS, then all of the offensive line (Veldheer, Carlisle, Wiz, Briesel, and Bergstrom) are way out of their zones finishing their one-on-one blocks, instead of taking over blocks. the only player blocking one-on-one with another player in his zone is Gordon the TE. This is clearly not a ZBS.
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I disagree that this is a ZBS run. If you look at Carlisle, at the snap he broke toward the Center expecting the NT to break his way, because usually the DE breaks to the outside. When he doesn't, he turns to help Veldheer clear the hole with the DE, who broke inside toward the hole. Also, if you look at the right side, Bergstrom (at RT) chips the defender that Briesel is blocking; and Gordon (#83 at TE) blocks the DE, and after the chip, Bergstrom goes to the next level at the LB that gave McFadden the second level break away; even though he doesn't initially go to that side; it cleared the way for him to make the juke on the safety.
ZBS does not allow for Bergstrom to go into the LB level unless the LB breaks toward the line, which he doesn't. Carlisle was anticipating the NT to plug the hole which is why he initially went to help Wiz. If this were ZBS, Carlisle does not help Wiz or Veldheer. Power blocking allows you to double team, and leave the LoS to block LBs; ZBS does not. This is classic power blocking, each lineman has a man (with exception of Carlisle). Carlisle would have had the Safety whose ankles were broke by McFadden, but the safety didn't get close until McFadden was through the hole and there was no way anyone would be able to block him; so it was up to McFadden, who did his job.
@Indy! That is why we don't need to blitz. We need more than the CBs to cover, we will need the safeties and linebackers to take away the dump offs. Have the safeties play closer to the LOS and help plug the running lanes and short passes; have the CBs play press coverage. If you can, double cover Moore and Decker. Let the LBs cover the dump offs and TE. Take away Manning's ability to call the play at the line and make adjustments, force him to rely on his OC for play calling, cover/double team, and force coverage sacks; and you will beat Manning. That's how the Pats did it for years. Denver doesn't have the pass protrection.
I think it is doable, even with a thin roster at CB. You cannot give these WRs space, or a 5 yard cushion. Peyton is all about short passes; force him to go long because he doesn't have the arm strength nor the protection.
A win's a win, but I wouldn't call it a solid win. We gave up 31 points before the 4th Quarter; we had some defensive issues. I wouldn't even say that Knapp's play-calling improved; or that our offense was good. We had a handful of plays come together for us. Without the 64 yard TD run by McFadden, he puts up another less than stellar performance of 17 carries for 49 yards. Now Palmer changed the protection before that 64 yard run, to a more power block protection, and that sprung McFadden behind the RG.
If the running game was dismal and McFadden didn't have that run, then we lose the game. We still have failed to see a good consistent running game out of McFadden in the ZBS. He is averaging about 2 yards per carry without the 64 yard run, and we need 4-5 yards per carry out of him. Palmer was the reason we won this game, not game planning.
Our defense is still having problems overshooting their gap assignments and over pursuing the QB on pass rush. We cannot continue to do this and have it go our way every time. The way we are going to beat Manning is creating coverage sacks. We cannot afford to blitz him, we will play right into his hands if we do. The way we beat him is by dropping 7 in coverage and cover the WRs, and let him go through his check downs, and get coverage sacks from the front four. Make him play our game, don't give him the opportunity to beat us with his read-and-react offensive play calling. Make him run the plays his coach sends in. That is how we are going to beat Denver. If we blitz, and create pressure; Manning will destroy us; especially on 3rd downs. Stop the run, get coverage sacks, no blitzing.
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@Raidah The last time Knapp was OC for us, we had the lowest scoring offense in the League. I wonder how much of that was truly our offense, or play-calling? We don't have those Special Teams melt downs if Knapp was more creative in his play-calling to get us first downs. The way he kept going to McFadden, I was yelling for play action pass all night. Why not go to the screen pass when we were within 5 yards of scoring a TD at the end of the first half, instead of a FG? These are basic 101 Red Zone plays, and it escapes Knapp to use them. Still irritated with him.
I felt coming into the preseason that Knapp was going to be our "handicap" with this team. During preseason, I saw that our 1st team was moving the ball well, being creative, etc; though we struggled finding the end zone (a problem we were plagued with when he was OC under Cable).
Last night's game calling offensively was a HUGE step backward from what I saw in the preseason. Out of 64 plays, 33 were to McFadden, really? Very vanilla offense, and I am not liking Knapp this morning. Forget the woes of losing Condo, and Special Teams play for a moment. We have an explosive offense that should have dominated the Chargers last night the way the Ravens did Cincy. I know it's only the first game, but Knapp has got to be more creative in calling plays than he was last night, or we won't win 6 games. SPREAD THE BALL AROUND!
I know there were some drops last night, and that is fine, but there is no excuse putting up 14 points against the Chargers; especially with the talent we have offensively. Bad play-calling, bad special teams, bad penalties. Not a way to start the season boys. Turn it around!
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I think Curry gets cut, or put on IR. Roscoe Parrish takes his place. Owen Schmitt , Bryan McCann, Pat Lee, and maybe David Ausberry are also cut in favor of some vets like Chris Cooley or Bo Scaife, a OLB, another RB (Gant, Torain, or maybe even Joseph Addai).
Like I said last week, our offensive handicap is Greg Knapp. The crux for the season is not offense though, it is how we play on Special Teams. I'm confident in a few things this season: 1 we won't lose a 4th Quarter lead; 2 we won't have many "blowout" losses like we did last year; and 3 if we are 7-4 going into the last 5 games; with a lineup like we did last season, we won't end the season 1-4 and go 8-8.
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The biggest problem we had last night offensively was trying to force plays that were not there. This is not unusual for a Greg Knapp offense. The Texans struggled with this mentality for the past few seasons, and is why they didn't beat the Ravens in the playoffs last season. Knapp could be a weakness in our offense.
With that said Carson has got to do better at his checkdowns. He did not look like a veteran QB last night. Leinart looked better. I just wonder how many times Palmer and Leinart apologized to Jacoby for hitting him in the hands?
Though that was without D-Moore and Tawain Jones offensively, and Richard Seymour and Curry did not play. Burris looked good in Curry's place.
Our defense did look a little more polished, but it was against a very anemic Cowboys' offense that cannot block a fly. Let's see how we do against Arizona on Friday. Hopefully, we will look and play differently on the offensive side of the ball; and stay agressive on the defensive side.
I don't think blitzing Manning is going to be effective. I think getting strong pressure from the front four and covering the short routes are going to rattle Manning's cage. If you blitz, there's a man open, and Manning is quick and good enough to find that man.
Let our guys get coverage sacks, because Manning is not going to run.
@Raiderdraftnik I see the similarity with Colston, thanks for the heads up on that. I knew Ward was smaller in size, but after the catch, he uses physicality to gain yards; and that is what Criner is going to bring in comparison with Ward.
I liked the Bergestrom pick, and I do think he will supplant Barnes at RT.
I also like the Juron Criner pick. I would compare Criner more to Hines Ward, more than Colston. Ward is not afraid to use his size to over-power the DBs to get yards after the catch. Ward isn't flashy, nor does he rely on speed; he catches the ball and bowls you over, nor does Ward run a lot of different routes. Not sure that Colston has the power that Criner does. I think we will be happy with this pick.
I thought we would take Terrell Manning (OLB, NC State) or Jonathan Massaquoi (DE, Troy) over Crawford, I was really surprised by that pick. We may have signed him as an undrafted free agent. The only thing I see that I like from him is he is 6'5", 274 lbs. He has the build to be a force, or he can lose 10-20 lbs and be an OLB, or stay at his current weight and be a backup MILB (when we use a 3-4 package); or a really good ST guy.
Overall I'd give us a C
Bergstrom is a nice pick, first team All-Pac12 at RT. A lot of "experts" say he will be a Guard in the NFL, I think he supplants Khalif Barnes at RT.
Criner is another pick I really liked. A big-bruising WR. That is what I liked about Crabtree coming out of Texas Tech, and I wanted Crabtree; but we took DHB instead. Criner doesn't have a lot of speed, but his size and hits on smaller DBs after the catch is what is going to get him more yards after the catch. How do you stop a speedy WR? You position your DBs to get a good hit on them. How do you stop a strong-powerful WR? You hope and pray your DB doesn't get ran over. I think we talk about Criner a lot in the years to come; but as Reggie said yesterday, "Let's get them on the field first."
To be honest, those are the only players I know about in this draft. I've heard some pretty good things about Burris, and can't wait to see him in action. I thought Keenan Robinson would have been a nice pick up, or Ronnell Lewis. I thought Andrew Datko would have been a good late round pick as well, and Terrell Manning would have been a better pick. I think the Saints moved up in Round 6 and stole Andrew Tiller from us.
I also think that Raiders' fans (and the team) dislikes the Steelers because we are a lot like each other. I truly believe they stole our top 2 guys we wanted to draft . Sean Spence, and Alameda Ta'amu. They have also announced that they have signed some undrafted free agents that we have claimed as well (California (Pa.) wide receiver Thomas Mayo, and Beloit wide receiver Derek Carrier). Grrr!
Overall, I give us a solid C grade in the Draft.
I like the idea, but would a 5th round suffice the trade, or would the value be more? I know he's a vet, but I'm wondering if the Eagles could still get a better "trade offer" (late 3rd, early 4th)?
McKenzie has said he is going to draft the best athlete available,and not necessarily based on need. I tend to believe him.
l would like to see us pursue Alameda Ta'amu (NT, Washington) and/or Brandon Thompson (NT, Clemson), at #95; but they may not be available that late, and we can still get a decent NT in the 5th.
Here is my updated Raiders' Draft:
#95 - Ronnell Lewis (OLB, Oklahoma) Summary: Played DE in OU, more than likely will be moved to OLB in the NFL. Has strong arms to shed blocks, and speed to get to the ball. He didn't get a lot of experience in pass coverage.
or Keenan Robinson (OLB, Texas) Summary: Positions himself well before the snap, and great speed. Covers great against TEs. Likes to get to the outside of the Tackles, but struggles against the interior line.
#129 - Mike Brewster (C, Ohio State) Summary: Good presnap reads/adjustments, a leader, quick, hits second level blocks, and is fast off the snap. Needs to improve anchoring against the bull rush.
#148 - Ishmaa'ily Kitchen (NT, Kent State) Summary: He's coming off a rough senior year after dislocating his shoulder, he was pushed around alot, but when healthy, look at his Junior year film. Powerful strength, run stuffer, powerful first step, good motor, power hitter; would be great backup because he didn't get a lot of snaps in his career due to rotational line.
#168 - Lamar Holmes (OG, Southern Mississippi) Summary: A deceptive athlete who has good strength to stop bull rush. Teachable to improve techniques, has a bad habit of stopping his feet at the point of contact, but again is teachable to improve techniques.
#189 - Levy Adcock (OT, Oklahoma State) Summary: Powerful base and hand strength. Has a tendency to play upright, but that is coachable. Conditioned to be a RT in the NFL.
or Adrien Robinson (TE, Cincinnati) Summary: Great agility, speed, and hands, needs to polish on run blocking and route running. Compared by some scouts to a young Tony Gonzalez.
This is the worst "mock draft" I've ever seen. Dontari Poe falls into the second round, if he's lucky. Justin Blackmon will more than likely be picked by the Browns. Tannehill and Weeden will be picked in the 2nd or 3rd round. Fletcher Cox doesn't fall to the Eagles. Floyd is not a first round pick either. Why don't you watch film, instead of guessing, and make your picks based on what players do during games, and not a combine. What a joke.
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I agree that we have a great chance at Alameda Ta'amu coming to Alameda! I think, however, that we take Ronnell Lewis (OLB Oklahoma) or Keenan Robinson (OLB, Texas); whomever is available that late. Our first pick of the 5th round, we take Josh Ogelsby (ROT, Wisconsin), and at #168 we take Jack Crawford (OLB, Penn State). Our 6th round pick we take Dan Herron (RB, Ohio State).
Sorry I don't have the player breakdown on these guys. One of the reasons why I pick these guys is that we don't have a lot of available monies to have a spectacular draft, unless we trade some big names off our team (Seymour, McFadden, etc). It wouldn't surprise me if we did make a big trade, but then we just add another hole to fill. I think the combination of R Lewis/Keenan Robinson and Jack Crawford would give us stability to stop the run and with Crawford, create havoc against the pass.
Dan Herron would be a good pick up to compliment McFadden as a power back, more so than Bush.