TheGreatMisdirect
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@Jake @TheGreatMisdirect @cgtmouse If Thornton can't win the starting job from McGlynn in camp, I'll eat my shoe. Not really, but that would be a horrible scenario. Let's hope that doesn't happen.
@Jake @cgtmouseThere's no feasible way McGlynn is starting this year barring injury. He was the worst guard on ANY team last year according to PFF, plus there's a reason we drafted Thornton in the 3rd this year. I would think their projected starting o-line from LT to RT is Castonzo, D. Thomas, Satele (maybe Holmes, if he performs well in camp), Thornton, Cherilus.
@colt nasty @TheGreatMisdirect @Coltsheadben Ah, thanks for the clarification.
@Coltsheadben Collie had the same injury that ended his season (and probably career) last year... Hard to be optimistic about a player coming back from that injury occurring in both knees, but if he can, he should be pretty good.
@paulcareyjr @MarcusDugan If he's our Suggs-type player, then he'll rarely drop back into coverage. I want to say Suggs drops into coverage less than 5% of the time (or somewhere around there).
@DougEngland The more I thought about it, the more concerned I was with our pass rush. I mean, literally, we have just Mathis on one side, then Hughes and Walden (yuck). A pass rusher makes much more sense than another cornerback (not that I didn't want Rhodes, but OLB/pass rusher was a higher priority).
@paulcareyjr @rogcohen @TheGreatMisdirect Well, at least Werner did what he was supposed to do against weaker competition: dominate.
I watched a few videos on YouTube and his first step is ridiculously fast, which is very impressive. I also checked out a few pre-combine mock drafts and he was projected as being a top-5, top-10 pick before his measurables at the combine underwhelmed scouts. I know he's probably not gonna be a Dion Jordan-type player, but I'm excited to see how well he does. He's willing to work hard and seems to be extremely intelligent, too. His reel against Oklahoma (and against Lane Johnson, who was taken #4 overall) is also very impressive. If he can get a few sacks in a game against Lane Johnson, then he'll probably be pretty good in the NFL.
@AJ_ @paulcareyjr @Coltsheadben I was curious and looked up a bunch of pre-combine mock drafts. Werner was never out of the top-10 of the few that I looked at.
@OllyDawes @Ben Savage Minnesota has a pick directly before and after us, though. Wonder what their 2nd 1st round pick is going to be.
@dansvirsky The more I think about it, the more I really appreciate Grigson's approach to free agency this year. Instead of investing most of your cap in 1-3 big name guys (like Levitre/Wallace/etc.), you're better off investing your money in 5-10 mid-range guys, especially since we have so many holes. If 1-3 of those guys don't work out, but the rest do, then you can cut the ones that don't and move on without too much of a cap hit. Meanwhile, if Wallace, for example, tears his ACL in the first game of the season, he's still due his money and you can't really cut him later without a severe cap hit. It's a much bigger gamble than you only want to take on guys you REALLY know (like Luck, Wayne, Mathis, etc.) that are probably more home-grown.
@cwjwl Thanks for providing that insightful injury history on Landry, good to know!
Honestly, as long as Grigson doesn't make one of those ridiculous $8M+/year signings like the Dolphins or the Redskins of yesteryear, I don't see it as that much of a waste of money if one or more of these players don't work out. Their cap hits aren't enormous, so it's not too big of a deal to cut 'em, imo.
@GregC @hankster @cwjwl @bradicus18 Oh yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you. I was hoping, just like everyone else, we could land either Vasquez or Levitre. But we don't know, maybe Thomas will end up as good as those guys, or slightly worse. I'm just happy we got some kind of upgrades on the line (though it may not have been as much as I wanted, or the people I wanted).
@hankster @cwjwl @bradicus18 According to the Patriots subreddit on reddit, a lot of Pats fans really liked him. He was the backup to Logan Mankins (one of the best guards in the league) and still had a very positive grade from PFF on the season (I think over +10).
http://www.reddit.com/r/Patriots/comments/1a6b4q/patriots_lost_g_donald_thomas_to_colts/
@hankster @bradicus18 Justice is gone, though, so we literally had no one at RT unless we drafted one (not literally, but you know what I mean).
@Magic_racer @mr_yannex No, we didn't cut him. He tore his ACL in training camp.
I think way too many people are overreacting to Walden's contract. In the end, it's only $16m over 4-years, so... who cares? Overall, Grigson made several shrewd movies and did pretty well. We may be upset now, but we'll feel much better after the draft and when we start winning consistently again. I feel like we added some good depth/special teams guys for not much money, plus an RT, two CBs, and a (apparently crappy) pass rusher. I can handle missing on one guy for $16m/4.
@BDiddy Even then, come on, it's not like we blew $60+ million into someone like Mike Wallace. I can handle a puny 4-year, $16m contract. It's pretty much peanuts.
PFF: The Colts appear to be just signing everyone, working out who they're actually interested in keeping later.
@Shake1n1bake I'll take it.