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I was baffled last week after Green Bay totally gave one away.  Didn't think that could be topped this week, but it happened.  The Kearse catch had that feel of inevitability to it, just like the Tyree helmet catch.  But Seattle managed to piss it away.  Incredible.  Can't believe the call.  Suuuure, let's have our 5'10" QB throw it over the crowded middle rather than you know, giving the probably best RB in the league a shot from the 1...  Wow.

1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/feb/ne-28-sea-24.html

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Kraft's comment last night == absurd.  The lady doth protest too much methinks.

2 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/why-deflategate-matters.html

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The problem is it appears to this point that they only have circumstantial evidence, and the Pats denying everything.  Might unfortunately give enough leeway to afford Goodell the option of letting them off with a slap on the wrist.

2 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/why-deflategate-matters.html

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Bad bad bad bad bad.  If I were a Packers fan, I would have been hanging in my closet from my belt shortly after the game.

People talk about how great a game this was.  No it wasn't.  In my view it was an awful game.

56 minutes of total domination (during which the dominator didn't quite get as big an advantage on the scoreboard as they should have), followed by one of the most absurd Murphy's law finishes of all time.

Even with the awful RRRP, there's no way they should have ever lost that game.  What the hell was Bostick doing on that play?  His assignment clearly appeared to be clearing out for Nelson to make a play on the ball.

I'll go back even farther to the horrible AJ Hawk play on the fake FG TD.  The Packers appeared to be ready for it, and had it covered perfectly.  But inexplicably, Hawk abandons coverage and makes a beeline for Ryan even though the other two defenders 99% certainly had it covered.  Absurdly boneheaded brain fart that cost them the chance to REALLY put Seattle out of contention much earlier.

You're right.  This will haunt the Packers until they win another SB.  The curse will be gone then and no sooner.

2 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/sea-28-gb-22.html

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Wet blanket Graziano from ESPN thinks this is an uninspiring hire.  "Look forward, not back."  Nice buzz phrase, but obviously I agree more with the logic presented here.  Love the move.

I wonder how this affects the chances of retaining JPP.  Even if he's not quite the 2011 JPP, I think they have to make it happen.  I'd be concerned about going into next year with Ayers, Moore, Wynn, and some random midlevel draft/FA add...

2 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/steve-spagnuolo-hired-as-new-dc.html

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He's forgetting about Geoff Schwartz.  But otherwise, good read. Thanks.

2 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/giants-roster-2014-review-2015-projections.html

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@Paddlepedal @CommanderShepard No kidding, huh?  I was on record back in August stating that they should absolutely give him another chance.  And after they let him go I said they'd be sorry.  I'm sure internally there are some heads shaking though they'd never admit it.

At the least they should have held onto him during the suspension; wouldn't have counted against the 53 man roster.  And by week 7 we already had indication Brown and Demps weren't really up to the task.  He could have come right back in and helped out big time.  And of course during this time the NFL was also in the process of relaxing the rules regarding marijuana.

Bad bad bad.  Yes, Hill has some issues keeping his **** together and with his decision making.  But was ANYBODY calling for the Browns to cut Josh Gordon?  And yes I think Hill has shown enough that he can be considered close enough to the same ballpark as Gordon in terms of impact.

2 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/pff-2014-recap-of-the-gmen.html

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Definitely a surprise, but a welcome one.  I appreciate Fewell for his role in a title, but otherwise, glad to move on.

Another two names I saw mentioned were Mike Smith and Wade Phillips.  The former I have no interest in.  The latter, I hate as a head coach but will begrudgingly admit he seems to be a good coordinator.

2 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/perry-fewell-is-out.html

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Well, I guess I forgot about safety.  Wish Will Hill was still around right about now.

2 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/pff-2014-recap-of-the-gmen.html

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Add ONE stud OL and really, no other changes on the offensive side are mandatory imo.

Can probably get by with JPP/Ayers/Moore/Hankins/Bromley/Jenkins/Wynn as the DL rotation.  Not overly concerned with secondary either.

So really, ONE stud OL and ONE stud LB (I think we can probalby cobble something together with the existing guys otherwise as long as they add one stud) and we can start to talk about being a legitimate threat.

Though of course a has been mentioned, keeping the entire coaching stuff is HIGHLY disappointing... especially since everything I said above is meaningless if the injury situation is the same as this year..

2 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2015-articles/pff-2014-recap-of-the-gmen.html

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@ultimatenyg @jfoster Yep, agreed.  Based on the talk today, sounds likely only Palmieri's in the line of fire.

It's too bad.  How can they logically defend Fewell after consistent bottom five results for years... Same with Quinn.  I was in the "keep Coughlin" camp only because it would ensure McAdoo stays another year.  But I've also been on the "Fire Fewell/Quinn" bandwagon from day one.

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/tom-coughlin-after-2014.html

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Good summary.  As for jfoster's comment about the late run saving everyone's jobs...  I hope not.  I agree that Fewell and strength/conditioning coaches need to go, and I don't see why this late run should save THOSE particular guys.  It's not like the defense played all that great other than the pass rush coming alive against inferior competition.  I think the performance of the offense has afforded Coughlin and McAdoo (and Reese) another year though.

Though I suppose the injury excuse could be trotted out with the defense.  We'll see.  Pumped to see Beckham and Cruz together next year.  If Cruz can get to even 90% of his prime form, Eli is in for a treat.  Beckham is an uncoverable monster.  His route running seems a lot like Cruz's with his ability to create separation, but with Beckham you also get the more physical aspect and the top end speed.

3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/nyg-37-atl-27.html

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@Paddlepedal @RussWellen1 Oh boy, the Jets.  Bad loss tonight (albeit at least not to the likes of the Jags).

What kills me is that ESPN and NFL Network are talking up Miami as if they're some kind of world beaters right now.  Okay... they barely beat the garbage Jets, who probably even outplayed them, and missed two FGs... Really can't stand these "analysts" anymore.  They don't know jack squat more than we do other than having more time to analyze it than we do because we have day jobs.

3 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/jax-25-nyg-24.html

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I still don't think this is a bottom 10 team (though DAMN close to it and it could certainly be argued), but of course it's hard to defend the results.  Two fluky TDs or not, a loss to a 1-10 team is pretty damning for everyone involved.  And the fact that the Giants probably would beat the Jags at least 8 out of 10 times is no consolation.

Where to go from here?  I'd hate to see them toss out the ENTIRE staff because that would mean they'd be on their third offensive system in three years.. not quite the makings of juggernauts.

But BARE MINIMUM Fewell and Quinn better not be showing their faces at Giants facilities beyond 2014.

In the meantime let us see what creative way the Giants come up with to lose to Tennessee, another team that looked like absolute garbage yesterday...

3 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/jax-25-nyg-24.html

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Oh, and HAPPY THANKSGIVING all!!!  Hope everyone has a great holiday.

4 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/32-teams-around-the-nfl.html

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It's getting a bit old hearing the likes of Graziano and Vacchiano continually beating the "not good enough to compete with decent teams" drum.  They only really got blown out of the building against Philly and I guess Indy.  The past three games they were very competitive, the last two of which by all rights should have been wins.

Don't get me wrong.  This is not a good team as it stands now.  It is very likely bottom half, but not bottom 8-10.  The offense may very well be one single piece (a good OL) away from being a force to be reckoned with.

The defense as I said is much murkier, but I think I need to stop reading the tripe from these sportswriters.  They don't know a hell of a lot more than most of us (other than having some inside access).

Anyway, good observations from Wonder as always.  Does he still have his own blog running?  i remember he started one up, but I didn't keep up with it.

4 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/32-teams-around-the-nfl.html

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Total tale of two halfs.  Offense did jack squat in the second half except for one drive (looked like too much "playing not to lose" to me), and the defense couldn't stop anything.  The front four wasn't getting it done, but as usual Fewell has no idea how to make adjustments.  That last decisive series was pathetic.

Beckham is an animal.  Can't wait to see him and Cruz out there together full bore next year.  I think Eli/Cruz/Beckham/Randle/Jennings/Williams/Donnell are perfectly fine at the skill positions.  That group can win a title.  As I said last week even the oline may not be THAT far off.  Looking at next year Richburg at C (his natural position), Schwartz and Pugh at Guard, and then Beatty and some draft/FA stud at tackle.  If things fall into place, might just be one piece away there.

Have to keep Coughlin probably because if they bring in a new head coach they might want to dump McAdoo along with everyone else.  Dumping the system after one year isn't a recipe for success, especially when we've seen so many positive signs.
The defensive side of the ball is a lot trickier.  I'd like to see Rolle brought back short term at a reduced rate if he's willing, but probably need an upgrade over Demps/Brown to pair with him.  Of course we had Will Hill but stubbornly tossed him away (by the way he has usurped the starting job in Baltimore and is playing very well the last few weeks).

At linebacker, whatever we need to do to never have Herzlich on the field ever again, do it.

JPP is the big question of the offseason.  I say try to retain him.  He's only 25, and is at the minimum a top level run stopper.  And I did see some good things here and there against Tyron Smith.  I think he is part of the solution, as long as it's something like 10mm/yr and not something outrageous.  But Fewell needs to go, and Moore/Ayers need to take a ton of snaps away from Kiwi.  Could use another slab of meat to put next to big Hank next year.

4 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/dal-31-nyg-28.html

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Lots of creativity from the "how to lose a game you should win" playbook.  The defense wasn't great especially very early on.  But I give them a lot of credit for hanging on all the while the offense was turning the ball over constantly.

Otherwise, I just echo Andy:  Beckham is a stud, and what the hell was that playcalling, three straight fades, the first of which was almost more of a throwaway.

If things go well we can be one piece away from a serious OL (Beatty, Richburg, Schwartz, Pugh, ???).  But out of those four today we only had Beatty and still-inexperienced Richburg playing arguably out of position.  The results speak for themselves.

I'm not in agreement with the growing consensus among writers like Vacchiano and Graziano, etc, that this is just a team with horrible horrible talent across the board.  One or two pieces on offense and McAdoo I think has shown he can do something.  Defense though is a bit cloudier.  Fewell probably needs to be replaced, and another LB and/or DL also needed.

Big question on the DL.... do they bring back JPP?  How much will he cost?  How much is he worth?  Seems like he's having a good year overall for the most part, and legit three down defensive ends don't grow on trees.

4 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/sg-16-nyg-10.html

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@kozmodog Saying our OTs are bottom tier in the league is a little extreme.  They've basically had one bad game each per PFF.

I've heard about enough of this "talent this, talent that, talent talent talent" nonsense from various talking heads and sportswriters.  Belichick had questionable talent peppering the roster all the time, and he always played to the strengths of what they had.  And where is the garbage talent here?  The offensive line is playing at least okay overall (other than the Philly game) and McClain has done a decent job, with Williams and Kennard seeming promising.  "Our linebackers are terrible players" is nonsense.

No pressure on Romo was an issue.  Where were Ayers and Moore? Kiwi had a couple nice moments in the early going of the season, but it might be almost time to put him out to pasture.  However I hang some of this on the insanely frequent usage of the 3 man rush (which we know Andy hates) flanked by too-frequent usage of soft zone.

As for the running game.  The definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results.  They ran the ball on something like 14 out of 17 first downs (other than 2 minute drill or down by two scores).

The WCO relies on the pass to set up the run, and the short passing game replacing some aspects of the run game.  Not to mention the relative strength of this oline seems to be passblocking (Philly disaster notwithstanding).

Dallas was able to stack the box all game long on early downs, then tee off on passing downs.  It's a credit to Eli and the passblocking of the oline they even got as much done as they did.  In many ways this game was more frustrating than the Philly game.  It was like the Arizona game in some respects in that mistakes did them in, but moreso in the coaching.  I'm no expert obviously, but I don't have any explanation for some of the gameplanning, playcalling, and usage of personnel.

5 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/oct/dal-31-nyg-21.html

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@jfoster It was somewhat of a chicken **** holding call too.  Definitely not the worst call I've seen, but definitely not too egregious a hold either.  As they say, if they really wanted to holding could be called on every play..

5 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/oct/phl-27-nyg-0.html

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Also intended to note that a loss against Dallas next week could be essentially season-ending...

And it's silly how these sportswriters make such bold statements all the time, stated as fact.  Graziano (ESPN) does it all the time.  Today's example is Vacchiano, using this game as evidence that the Giants are obviously and categorically "not in the same class" as the Eagles.  Last night they obviously weren't, but I wonder if he would have said that overall Denver's team last year wasn't in the same class as Seattle.

5 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/oct/phl-27-nyg-0.html

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Shockingly bad.  Dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball.  3 man rush, and receivers still running free on intermediate crosses and outs?  Come on.  And as has been explained thoroughly, the playcalling didn't do anybody any favors.

I WOULD say it could have been a different game had Cruz caught that pass instead of letting the turf monster tear up his knee.  But nah, the way they were playing, they'd just lose 27-7 instead of 27-0.  This may be worse (in terms of total failure to competently play football) than any game since 2011... and that's saying something.

This is also by far the best the Eagles have looked all year (I've seen all the games).  They didn't look close to this good even in the win against Indy.

I still don't think Philly and Dallas are anywhere really close to as good as their records indicate... but if the Giants can't pull their heads out of their rears, it won't matter.

5 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/oct/phl-27-nyg-0.html

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@Paddlepedal They just don't look like a good team right now.  Even their "best" win of the year against Indy... They were getting beaten soundly, 20-6.  They got a 50 yard pass interference to set them up at the 1.  Then next drive Trent Richardson immediately fumbled deep in Indy territory.  Boom, game is tied.  Colts come down for a TD, stop the Eagles, and are driving again, when the Eagles get a pick on a play where Hilton was basically tackled (was not called).  So, I mean, give them credit for coming back.  But barring some kind of absurd sequence like the one above (i know, I know, such an absurd sequence already befell the Giants against Arizona...) I don't see how the Giants piss this one away.  Let's hope...

5 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/oct/eagles-eye-preview.html

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I'm worried about this game because the setup looks almost too good.  Foles looks mostly terrible (I've watched every play), McCoy looks like Chris Johnson with the amount of dancing, there are injuries on the oline, and the defense isn't stopping anybody.  Smoke, mirrors, and 7 return TDs probably have more to do with the 4-1 record than actual solid execution on both sides of the ball.

Don't allow any D/ST TDs, win the game.  If the Giants are relatively mistake free I just don't see how the Eagles keep it close.  And that gives me a bad feeling, with the Giants propensity to just lay an egg randomly.  But hopefully THIS Giants team will not be as prone to that, after some of the early season struggles are out of the way.

5 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/oct/eagles-eye-preview.html

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@Arthuro Well, isn't that an optimistic take... o_O

5 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/oct/nyg-30-atl-20.html

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Great game.  I'm not getting ready to hand them the Lombardi trophy just yet, but 2014 is still very much on the table.  A week or two ago I had several games earmarked as "extremely tough to the point of being nearly unwinnable".  Now I only have one such game on the list; AT Seattle.  And they got beat by San Diego so who knows.

Aside from the Randle non-TD which I think was absolutely the wrong call, I also was scratching my head over the play that Niles Paul went out on.  If they're gonna call him a defenseless receiver, how can they also rule it a catch?  If he catches it and making a football move, is he not now a runner?  Blows to the head are then fair game; no different from a running back lowering his shoulders in the hole...  If they ruled no catch, keep the flag.  But ruling it a catch, they have to pick up the flag.  Made no sense to me.

The luxury the offense now has is that the next three defenses they play before the bye are also looking a little soft.  These are all winnable games.  Go into the bye at least 4-3 and we may yet have something.

Have to do a better job defending the short passing game though.  The WRs were largely shut down, but I have to wonder what's going on with the LBs.  Did Paysinger kick Coughlin's dog?  Why is Herzlich on the field?  Hopefully we get Beason and Kennard back sooner rather than later...

6 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/sept/nyg-45-was-14.html

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From the start I've approached this as a non-playoff season, with any possible playoff push being a big bonus.  Through that lens, today (while frustrating as all hell) wasn't that bad.  Eli was as sharp as I've seen him look in a while.  The receivers were where they were supposed to be, mostly, but Cruz and Randle couldn't hold onto the ball.  Those catches need to be made.

The defense was frustrating at times, and could have done a better job getting off the field here and there, but considering Herzlich played the middle for a long stretch, it wasn't awful.  It really was those three plays (four if you count the bad Cruz drop that led to the punt, starting that whole sequence of events) that turned the game and then some.  Made a possible double digit Giants win into a double digit loss.

On to week 3.  Another winnable game.  Let's see.

6 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/uncategorized/az-25-nyg-14.html

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What's funny is that this is among the least "sky-is-falling"-esque of any of the recaps I've read for this game.  As was said, the game was pretty ugly, but there are positives to take away from it.  Need to just keep improving every week and forget thinking about the playoffs at this point.  We'll cross that bridge when we come to it (if).

I don't think Eli played too badly.  The receivers got NO separation and he was running for his life too often.  The 2nd INT was a poor decision and a poor throw, but otherwise, nobody was giving him any help.

The playcalling seemed odd at times.  The short passing game was pretty anemic, and Eli seemed to be holding the ball for quite awhile many times.  Really need to get everybody on the same page..

The defense was fine.  Not gonna sound any alarm bells yet.  The first TD was a little fluky, and the 2nd TD was a crazy throw/catch on another broken play.  Just need to contain the pocket better as Andy said.  Palmer will have a harder time dodging the rush than Stafford next week.  JPP didn't do a whole lot rushing the passer from what I saw, but he was a definite force in the running game.

Will probably fire up the coach's tape tonight to get a better look at how the receivers and secondary did (often off screen during the broadcast).

Arizona's D isn't anything amazing, and their offense is a definite step down from Detroit's.  We'll see.

6 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/uncategorized/det-35-nyg-14.html

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BigBlueView did a piece of John Jerry the other day, backed by some PFF data.  (From the Pats game, so obviously was against largely backups).  But that's at least slightly promising.


I'm stubborn, so will not abandon all hope until we're sure Walton can't regain early 2012 form, Beatty can't regain 2012 form, etc.  If we see Richburg progress the way Pugh did last year with continued solid play from Pugh, things won't be as bad as they look now.


Yeah that's a lot of ifs, but what fun is being a fan if it's doom and gloom all the time.  Excited for football either way.

6 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/schwartz-lost-for-7-weeks.html

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@Arthuro Well, even if JPP doesn't return to form, the defense should at least be above average.  I'll also assume the offense HAS to be better than it was in the preseason, and the line can't really be any worse than last year (right???).  Thinking more like 7 wins (4 if everything completely falls apart, 10 if everything comes together; both of those extremes pretty unlikely as of now).

6 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/predicting-the-giants-season-record-in-2014.html

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The first five opponents don't look to be particularly strong overall.  What has to happen, is they need to find a way to win at least 3 of those 5 to buy the offense some time.  Any less than that, and things can get ugly rather quickly...  And going into that IND, SEA, SF stretch below .500 is a definite death sentence.


Expect the worst, hope for the best...

7 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/predicting-the-giants-season-record-in-2014.html

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@Shawn Siegele @CommanderShepard Thanks for the response.  In my nightmare scenario in which Graham, and the top 5 of each WRs and RBs are gone at 15, I don't know, I might even prefer one of the elite QBs over going into that next tier I'm not as big on.  In most of the "pro" mock drafts at least one of those guys seem to make it to round 3 if not 4, but from what I've typically seen in actuality, they're long gone by end of round 2 (site preset rankings bias probably a big reason why).

7 months, 2 weeks ago on Zero RB, Antifragility, and the Myth of Value-Based Drafting

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What do you think of this strategy in general for a 0.5 PPR league (two of my leagues use this; 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1FLEX, 1TE, DST)?


Specifically, I pick 10th in a 12 team league.  In a perfect world I'd go Graham then Julio Jones or Brandon Marshall at 15 after the turn.  But if Graham, Megatron, and Demaryius are all gone at 10, and then Marshall/Jones are both gone at 15, I'm struggling a bit with my backup plan as I don't like anybody else quite to that degree.  There are only 5 RBs I REALLY fell good about in round 1, and they'll all be gone too.


Love the theory here.  I've always at least sort of employed it without even knowing it had a name ("zero RB"), but paying more attention to it this year.  Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

7 months, 2 weeks ago on Zero RB, Antifragility, and the Myth of Value-Based Drafting

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@jfoster Yeah, Beatty is a huge question mark.  I'm not a huge fan of our other options there.  The bright side is that Walton and Moseley seem to be doing at least okay from what I saw.  Would be interesting to see if PFF agrees.

Regarding JPP, I will give the benefit of the doubt for now.  Lets see some more game action.  He doesn't need to be 2011 JPP for this defense come up big, but he DOES need to be a huge step up from 2013 JPP.  I think Ayers and Moore will do enough.  And I hope the brass are right about the linebackers.  I agree 100% with the idea that the defense needs to buy time for the offense to get their legs underneath them.  Onward and upward...

7 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/nyg-20-steelers-16.html

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The OL kind of looked like hot garbage the first two drives.  Saw Walton and Mosely get driven back kind of badly a couple times each.  But as was said it's definitely too early to panic on that front.  JPP didn't look all that active.  1st team defense overall looked decent enough for now.  Nassib looked drastically better than anything last year, though still a little shaky; I'm more confident now that he can do enough to prevent the Giants from having to keep Painter.

Sad news regarding Wilson.  Hope he didn't blow what he's earned so far in his career.

Will probably rewatch the early part of the game trying to focus more on some players.

7 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/nyg-17-buffalo-13.html

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I think this team has a high ceiling, but there a lot of question marks and a lot has to fall into place.  Anything from 6-10 to  11-5 are on the table (higher or lower than that is probably pretty unlikely I'd think).  There's no way the OL can be worse than last year, and even if it's bad, McAdoo's system should alleviate that a little bit.  And yes Arthuro, the front seven on D has enormous question marks everywhere.  Losing Tuck/Joseph will hurt badly if nobody steps up.

Offseason has been too long.  I'M READY FOR FOOTBALL.

8 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/training-camp-begins.html

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What are the opinions on Will Hill here?  I think the Giants can't afford to cut him for several reasons.  #2 overall PFF safety last year?  In 12 games?  24 years old, in his prime, elite potential.  Yes, he is now a repeat offender and the Giants have to be frustrated, but you can't let talent like that walk.  It would be almost on the same level as the Browns cutting Josh Gordon (and you don't hear anybody talking about that as a possibility).

Plus, with our luck an NFC East rival would scoop him up, and he'd beat the stuffing out of the Giants down the stretch...  They need to give him one more chance in my opinion, as absurd as that may seem to some people.  Too much talent.

10 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/uncategorized/excellent-value-taken-by-gmen-on-day-3.html

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I'd be less excited about Gilbert than the other 9 due to immediate need; if he's the only one of those 10 left, I'd probably be in favor of trading down.  But I agree that I'd rather see Gilbert taken at 12 than Donald or Martin if it came down to it.

It's unlikely all 10 will be gone; figure one QB and one strange reach (QB or otherwise); that's all it would take.  But we'll see.

10 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/final-2014-draft-thoughts.html

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Even though everybody has misses (e.g. Rolando McClain), this is a good illustration indicating that Wonder's track record is certainly better than most.


Unrelated, Kevin Williams.. That'd be a nice replacement for Linval Joseph at the right price (2yrs 4mil sounds reasonable; the guy deserves more than veteran minimum; performed well on PFF last year).  And it would likely prevent us from reaching for Donald in the draft.  Win win.

10 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/

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It would have made a lot more sense to make a much bigger push to keep Linval Joseph, a known quantity who is past his "beaten to a pulp" phase and ramping up his "thrive" phase (even if we know his ceiling probably isn't THAT high).  What sense would it make to replace that type of piece with someone who has a great chance to ulltimately be as good or better, but may not fit the system as well, is undersized, and will be a rookie...


That line of reasoning makes me think they aren't concerned enough about DT to reach for one in round 1.  But who knows.  Interesting piece, and a good reminder to take all the hyperbole with a grain of salt.  We see it every year for various players and this is a great example of it.

11 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/70-of-parents-think-their-children-are-above-average-part-17.html

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Been seeing Ebron AND Evens gone in the top 10 in a bunch of recent mocks. :(


Lewan is a big question mark with the pending criminal charges.  Donald seems like he may be kind of a reach at 12.  It'll be interesting to say the least.

11 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/uncategorized/te-eric-ebron-can-tranform-the-giants-offense.html

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Nice writeup.  I'm excited about the opportunity to get a stud at #12, whether it's Ebron, Evans, or an OL.  As long as at least a couple teams reach for QBs, the Giants should have their pick between multiple excellent prospects.

Before reading Wonder's take, I was leaning Evans over Ebron, but wonder may now have me leaning the other way.

11 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/uncategorized/te-eric-ebron-can-tranform-the-giants-offense.html

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I don't know a whole lot about Ebron.  I'll be looking forward to the full post on him.  I like almost everything I've heard/seen about Evans.  I know WRs early can be iffy but having this monster target out there would really open things up for Cruz inside.  I may rather see 1-Evans, 2-Niklas than 1-Ebron, 2-somebody.  What are the thoughts on Niklas around here?  And how about DT Donald (maybe somebody available later if trading down or something)?

11 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/

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@RussWellen1  In rugby you can often be penalized for not wrapping up.  You must use your arms to complete the tackle.  Therefore big hits delivered with the shoulder are not allowed.  And with no helmets, only a madman would deliver blows with the head.  I played for three years in college and managed to avoid any head trauma.  Overall concussions were pretty rare from what I saw anecdotally.  Maybe one or two in three years among the whole team of 50+ guys.  I'm not sure a "wrap up only" rule would work in the NFL, but it could certainly decrease head injuries.

12 months ago on Mark Cuban Echoes UltimateNYG

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After the Manningham signing, we still need another WR, DE, DT, OL, TE.  It's a lot to ask to get quality at all those positions through the draft (though not all of those have to necessarily make a huge impact year one).  The TE, DT and possibly OL will have to be able to contribute year one.

I love what's been done so far, but still a few holes to plug...

1 year ago on DRC signs 5 yr Deal with the NY Giants

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@jfoster  Well, there's no way the oline can be worse than it was last year.  And even right this moment, it has the potential to be much better (a few IF's involved obviously).  I'm assuming WR and TE in the draft, but nothing on that front yet is a little worrying.  I think when the dust settles the O will be much better off than last year.  Maybe drastically.

The defense I'm not so sure.  Tuck and Joseph will be tough to replace.  We're set at safety, and SHOULD be solid at LB now, but CB and DL are major question marks at this point, especially in terms of depth.

It's still early, but there's no reason to rule out a very competitive team at this point.  (Also can't rule out a lackluster one either.)

Call me cautiously optimistic.  Which is much better than where I'd be at if Gilbride was still on the staff.

1 year ago on SLAM DUNK SUCCESS FOR GMEN THRU 2 DAYS OF FREE AGENCY

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3 years, 19 (7 guaranteed) million for Beason?  Sounds slightly high..  I was hoping for more in the 3-4 per year range..  Wonder how much of that is incentives.

1 year ago on SLAM DUNK SUCCESS FOR GMEN THRU 2 DAYS OF FREE AGENCY

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Kenny Britt, interesting idea.  Owen Daniels I've always liked.  He's likely past his prime, but would be a solid addition.  Jermichael Finley seems headed to Seattle.  The brain trust have any thoughts on Pettigrew or Quarless?  I'd rather grab someone solid now than wait for the draft with a backup plan consisting of... basically nothing.

1 year ago on SLAM DUNK SUCCESS FOR GMEN THRU 2 DAYS OF FREE AGENCY

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Beason signs!

Also, Schwartz deal seems reasonably priced.  4 yrs, 17mm, 6mm guaranteed.  Not bad.  Jacoby Jones signs with Baltimore.  WR early in draft?  And still need a center and a corner..

1 year ago on Giants New Signings, Joseph Signs with Vikes

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@dbs50  Came here to post almost exactly this.  I too don't know much about him, but it sounds like they see him as a tweener who will help partially replace Tuck should he leave.  Yes the numbers sound high, but we'll see how much is actually guaranteed (I'd be willing to bet around the ballpark of 2 million).  I'm willing to take a wait and see approach.


I like the other two signings.  I suppose I'd be "okay" with a Beatty, Schwartz, Boothe, Snee, Pugh lineup, but an upgrade at C would be nice, and Beatty and Snee have question marks.


I like the idea of bringing in Jacoby Jones.  He will bolster the return game, and can play some offensive snaps on the outside (with the speed to stretch the field), freeing up more time in the slot for Cruz and Jernigan.

1 year ago on Giants New Signings, Joseph Signs with Vikes

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