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@I Bleed Blue Outstanding. Pretty much nailed it across the board.
5 hours, 47 minutes ago on SD 37 NYG 14
@capt george Well not to split hairs, but at 5-7 you were still arguing for that, and you're now saying 5 wins is already enough to keep the status quo...j
Anyway, we'll see I guess. For a proud franchise, I'd hope that these last two years are enough to make changes. We can't expect Coughlin to go, but Gilbride is at least a possibility. Let's hope it comes to fruition.
1 day, 15 hours ago on SD 37 NYG 14
I think it's a little much so imply this "deserved" to be a 1-12 type team. However short of that, the points are well made. I agree with the entire list of 10 things. Like capt george I'd hate to lose Nicks for variouis reasons, but Andy is correct as well; there's no reasonable scenario in which he can be brought back.
Maybe it makes me cynical as dbs said. But I have a bad feeling Gilbride will be back regardless. As the mayor said, the oline (to be fair not entirely in Gilbride's control) may be made the sole scapegoat, disregarding the other issues.
This is one of the reasons why I've argued with capt george about "rooting/hoping for losses" as that assumes they'd actually get rid of Gilbride in ANY scenario. We can't assume that.
Fewell I think needs to go , but if he doesn't it might not be the end of the world. Priority list is (1) OC, (2) oline. If those two things are taken care of successfully, a lot more could potentially fall into place. Taking care of those two things is easier said than done. As I said in the comments last week, I like the core of guys on defense (assuming JPP can get healthy, and Williams/Paysinger continue developing.
First and foremost, purge the shitbride so that the healing can begin.
1 day, 18 hours ago on SD 37 NYG 14
@mkdrep Take him now! Midseason! At least then maybe capt george could stop rooting for losses! ;)
3 days, 6 hours ago on Giants 24 Redskins 17
@capt george "Taking how I feel and projecting it on another?" Don't talk down at me. "Better" is a subjective idea here. A tiny part of me now hopes we go 5-11 yet keep the entire coaching staff, then see if you still think rooting against our team for half a season was really worth it.
So to be clear, you were sitting on your couch two weeks ago watching the Dallas game, actively hoping/rooting for a loss (and a Tony Romo win)? It wasn't just a case of recognizing afterward that it's probably for the best in terms of making change this offseason?
Well, all I can say is you must have a TON of fun watching those games hoping for the Giants to lose. Not watching the games at all seems like a better option. Whatever floats your boat...
@Paddlepedal @capt george I agree paddlepedal. If I knew for a fact 4-12 would result in Gilbride's firing, I'd have an easier time "hoping' for that. But this "hope we lose" attitude assumes a few things.
1) 7-9 is lousy, but 4-12 is downright awful to an embarrassing degree. You assume that type of putrid garbage won't have a lasting effect on the team.
2) You assume the Giants front office is stupid. We know they have way too much faith in Gilbride, but for a proud franchise like this, 7-9 and 2nd straight year with no playoffs is plenty bad. I don't think they necessarily need to go 4-12 to fire Gilbride.
3) How do you even know for sure 4-12 would automatically mean Gilbride's firing? Coughlin's working off his free pass from the two superbowls, and allegedly loves Gilbride.
But let me just understand this... you guys sit in front of the TV on Sundays and think to yourselves, "I hope the Giants turn the ball over right now, and I hope RG3 scores a touchdown," then if that happens do you pump your fist in glee?
I know you think you're rooting for what's best for the team long term. But to me that just feels..... dirty....
It's one thing to watch the game rooting for wins, but then seeing the silver lining in a loss after the fact. It's another thing entirely to sit there during the game hoping for Philip ****ing Rivers to blow us out of Qualcomm Stadium.
4 days, 16 hours ago on Giants 24 Redskins 17
@mkdrep Are you guys actually able to sit in front of the TV on Sunday, and during a game, actually hope and root for the Giants to lose?
6 days, 13 hours ago on Giants 24 Redskins 17
Despite the win, Dallas/Philly basically put the nails in the coffin this week.They each can win no more than one more game, and they play eachother once. So we can pretty much forget about that for now.
Just one game at a time. Definitely want to see some of the young guys in (that's not necessarily synonymous with playing for a better draft pick in my opinion).
Things I was dismayed by last night:
-Gilbride's mug every time they showed it on TV
-Beatty's continued regression
-Lack of snaps for Damontre Moore
-Cruz/Garcon falling short of carrying me to a first round playoff bye in one of my fantasy leagues.
Will Hill is a potential stud in the making. I'm glad the Giants knew what they had, and didn't cut bait when he was suspended.
I'm loving this potential foundation we're forming on defense. JPP, Hill, Beason, J. Williams, Amukamara, etc. If guys like Hosley and Damontre pan out too, all the better. Lots of reason for 2014 optimism there.
Less reason for optimism regarding the OL. They better figure something out.
1 week, 1 day ago on Giants 24 Redskins 17
@RussWellen1 And what makes it even more amazing is that while they were dropping 7 or 8 into coverage, Dez still ended up 1 on 1 on an island almost every play...
1 week, 6 days ago on DAL 24 NYG 21
@mkdrep Now that they're truly out of contention, it's hard to argue with that even though during a game I can never root against the team.
Gilbride MUST go. I still think TC is a good (but far from perfect) coach; they won't get rid of him this year anyway unless he leaves on his own. But Gilbride MUST be replaced. It HAS to happen.
I don't know about the penalties. I maybe misremembering but the team hasn't been TOO heavily penalized this year. I think blaming that on TC is reading into it something that's not there.
I think Fewell needs to go as well. He's done an okay job this year, but that last drive was an absolutely unforgivable trainwreck. That one's almost completely on him, not on the players.
2 weeks, 1 day ago on DAL 24 NYG 21
How many times do we need to see a 30 yard sideline throw on 3rd and 2?
How many designed 2 yard patterns in the red zone?
How many botched screens?
How many busted up route trees?
Enough is enough Gilbride.
I HATED the D strategy on the last drive too. 3 man rush most plays. Felt almost like prevent D... while tied.
Dungy just said "Cowboys dominated the game, then let it get away before pulling it out.". Bull. Both teams are bad and the Giants just gifted them that lead.
Biggest thing though..Eli needs a new coordinator in 2014. Enough is ****ing enough.
2 weeks, 2 days ago on DAL 24 NYG 21
@Pataroons To add, not that I'm trying to take ad revenue or whatever away from bloguin, which probably helps keep blogs like this running. Just that there are options if the ads are TOOOO distracting.
3 weeks ago on JPP, Part 17
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On topic, as Andy said last week maybe this team won't make a playoff push, but at the minimum this could definitely be a team nobody wants to play down the stretch.
@ultimatenyg That's interesting, as just a week or two ago Graziano was pretty much categorically writing off the Giants. But he's absolutely right, here. It's there for them if they want to take it. At least at this point in the season things are more interesting than we could have realistically hoped for a month ago.
3 weeks, 1 day ago on NYG 27 GB 13
@ultimatenyg I actually think (as of now) it's more mirage than makeover. And I want Gilbride gone as badly as anybody here, believe me. I just can't bring myself to sit in front of the TV hoping for a loss. I can't do it.
I just can't see hoping for losses in November if you think the team is bad, because if that happens, and everything suddenly clicks later in the season (a la 2007/2011), you're already out of it.
Here we go again, rooting against our team. A shame.
And that's a hell of a theory regarding Jacobs. Tin foil hat stuff there.
Dallas is next. Just need to keep winning. I will ride this wave as far is it takes us. Enjoy the ride and quit being a curmudgeon, lol.
3 weeks, 2 days ago on NYG 27 GB 13
@RussWellen1 Honestly? Not I, not yet. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. If they Eagles take the east this year and win a playoff game (along with Eli bumbling along for the rest of the final 7 games) then we'll talk. Maybe.
4 weeks, 1 day ago on NYG 24 OAK 20
Well, we'll take it. That's about all I can say. Damn this offense is wretched. Though Andre Brown's return is a definite uptick. Pass protection is still pretty iffy, and Eli and the receivers still can't get on the same page half the time. As usual Gilbride makes me scratch my head on too many occasions.
The "good" thing is that Dallas (blew game against Detroit, barely beat Minny, crushed by Saints) and Washington (blown out by Denver, shaky win vs. SD, lost to Vikings) haven't looked good the last few weeks. 6-6 is absolutely on the table, which would quite possibly bring with it a share of the division lead. Philly may be a bigger threat than Dallas at this point. How absurd is that?
@ultimatenyg I still find this notion absolutely outrageous. Well we don't need to retread this; the same points that would come up now were already brougnt up in the comments here: http://www.ultimatenyg.com/2013-articles/january/conference-championship-day.html
1 month ago on Snapshots on NFL's 32 Teams at Week 10
@capt george @Pataroons I know we can't live off past exploits, but your last sentence is hard to take seriously after we were dead and buried weeks 14/15 in 2011. There's NEVER a guarantee anymore that a playoff team can't get anywhere. There are numerous examples. The 2008 Cardinals spring to mind first (aside from our 2007 and 2011 teams). Hell, the 7-9 Seattle Seahawks won a playoff game a few years back.
I know Andy (and especially Pete... where's he been) would answer that by saying the league is "slop" these days as if the pre-salary cap era was some kind of glory day period that was somehow much better for football than what we have now. And as I did after 2011, I'd still now disagree vehemently with that way of looking at things.