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@AllTideUp @FrankKendrick Like you I wonder why I argue with fans about this type of thing. Technically, I guess you are correct.....I can only base my views on things I see and read as well as what facts I know and then come to my conclusion. Concerning facts, it's my guess that you know about the same as I do concerning the inter-play of all the decision makers (which isn't much). If the fact that Alabama had an easier schedule than LSU this year and will next can't be justified with known facts that I can present to you (don't have knowledge of context of discussions that lead to this decision....as I assume you don't), I guess I have to just theorize why. If you don't know the facts, I guess your view is as good as mine. Why would temporary schedules continue to favor a couple of teams? What facts I do know are: the SEC office is in Alabama (don't know reason why...assume it was centrally located within SEC territory at the time); some of the SEC staff had an affiliation with Alabama in some form as well as some key SEC officiating officals; I know for a fact the Bear had great influence around where I lived (at the time in Pensacola); I know for a fact that Alabama has for many, many years had more favorable SEC schedules than their biggest rivals at the time (Why?....Maybe it was just the Bear being a smart SOB?...or it may have been by chance); I have read article(s) that Bear over signed to keep players from his rivals; I have heard stories of his/Alabama's recruiting tactics...to be fair they all cheated ((just told about/know a few (Ala, Auburn, Florida, LSU, Texas A&M)....so many years ago)). Based on what I've seen, read, and know, my opinion is the Bear had great influence and Alabama has been the fair haired child of this conference. I also think the Bear and SEC office has played a big part in it being like it is. As for the topic of the temporary schedules just so happening to work out for Alabama, riddle me this Batman....why the first year and then the second as well favoring them? Being on the far west side of the conference, perhaps you know better the reason why?
I don't believe Dodd pushed the return because he knew of the Mississippi issue and his pride. My opinion of him during that time was he as an honorable man and didn't like what he was seeing. Sure Dodd had influence as well. If they wanted to play the game along with Alabama they could have gotten in if a majority or 3/4 vote was what was needed. Don't know if it had to be 100% to get in.
Let's be honest here....Your opinion of the SEC world as seen though Crimson and White eyes is different than the world I now see through Purple and Gold eyes. I agree that I am believing what I want to believe. I also believe you are believing what you want to believe. Whose right? The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. Hell...I thought Tiger Woods was a very good husband. My guess is you view the Bear as a Saint. I have learned the media paints pictures of events and people that are not always true. No one but the person involved knows the truth (what they are thinking) and even others that see the event see if though different eyes.
We will just disagree about what is happening.
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@AllTideUp @FrankKendrick First off not theories...please don't talk down to me like that.
If for one second you believe all meetings held don't have people pushing their agendas you are not living in the real world. The Bear yielded great influence during his day. You, as an Alabama fan, can even see Alabama and Saban's in today's times. I also have stated that Alabama is a mini-Texas. The only reason is because they have been kept in check when it comes to everyone's dollars (doesn't hurt that the conference was started with equal shares...thus Alabama would play hell getting those dollars from others like Texas has.) Am I privy to what has been said behind closed doors prior to and during meetings?....of course not. I can only go on what I see and read ((keeping in mind all I read is not necessarily accurate (First hand knowledge to that fact.)). To answer your question about, "...then how did they (Alabama) pull it off?" They obviously had their discussions with others to get a consensus before the meeting. There was probably some give and take on others topics that were important to others....a kind of you do this and I'll do that. This happens all the time....nothing new.
Here is a link to why Georgia Tech left (taken from Musing with Cecil Buffington). When you read it, please note what was stated that the Bear told Dodd about coming back to the SEC. (He would push for it.) Now if he didn't have ANY influence then what would it really matter for just little old Alabama (him representing them) to give their okay? cecilbuffington.com/catalog_40.html
@AgLove98 @FrankKendrick @saginaw @JRsec Are you kidding me....Texas A$M is too tough for LSU. There's not a team in the universe too tough for them. The point was playing a tough schedule like that was not the same as Alabama's schedule. It has nothing to do with fear of the opponents!!!! Shaking head...some of you guys are just unbelievable.
@saginaw @JRsec Oh they did them a favor alright....let's see: at Florida, then South Carolina, then at Texas A$M , then open date, then Alabama, and then Miss State. Notice any difference in schedules between Alabama and LSU? The open date thing has only been in the last about 3 years. Usually it was Alabama I believe that had the open date. Don't you think for one second that Alabama hasn't played the open date game since I can remember.
@Flagg707 @FrankKendrick @mddo5 Ga Tech didn't leave just because of scheduling...never said that. Scheduling; influence in decisions made (like Texas); academic issues; numbers of players recruited; etc. were issues for Tech (forgotten the issue that broke the camel's back). Alabama has had a big hand in many of the league's issues. Bear had a LOT of influence in his day.
Alabama is NOT Texas...NO ONE is like Texas....they are a cancer. I've watched Texas do it's thing over the years....they need to be like another school I just love (big joke) Notre Dame.
Never said they didn't make the same amounts.....that is a big reason Alabama is NOT Texas. If you don't think Alabama would try what Texas pulled off if they could, you are living in a dream world. It's all about control.
How about the years when Alabama had a week off before the BIG game while the other team had played two or three BIG games in a row before that game (with no open date).
As for the complaining about playing Florida. It has nothing to do with them being hard and we are afraid to play them. (Shaking Head at Alabama fans thinking). Look at who LSU has played over the years and the crazy schedules they have had to play....no LSU will kick your A$$...they aren't afraid to play YOU (LOL). It has to do with fairness of the schedule. Yes Tennessee is down ...not your fault. But ask USCe or Florida or LSU if the temporary schedules have been fair (as well as other schedules over the years). Alabama isn't playing 4 or 5 teams in a row that are very good. Hell...this year they couldn't play 2 games in a row (LSU then Tx A&M.). There's a reason teams lose after playing very hard physical games the week before...ask FSU when they were #1 and got 9-11 players hurt in the LSU game only to lose the next week to an average team because they were beaten up. It's fairnes of schedule not how tough it is.
@mddo5 You talk about one fluke year scheduling (other teams probably had their schedules changed for TV as well. You're an Alabama fan....a fairly young one at that. Believe me....the Bear and Alabama began playing the scheduling games for many years before you were born. There are reasons a team like Ga Tech left the SEC....it wasn't just one thing that caused them to leave. Scheduling has played a part in Alabama rich tradition that was built. They are a mini version of Texas.
@JRsec @FrankKendrick Exactly...Florida's had Auburn, Georgia and the Alabama...Alabama would have an open date before Auburn I believe. The Bear was not a fool....he played the game big time just like his recruiting tactics.
When you talk about LSU getting in because of the SEC in 2007 , it couldn't possibly be because their schedule as a whole was so hard verses the others in consideration.
What do you really think the % of LSU fans is that wants to leave the SEC? My guess is .001%.
What LSU fans get upset about is the scheduling. It sucks for several schools in the SEC. You think Ala and Georgia are complaining? What about LSU, Florida and USCe? Why aren't the temporary schedules more balanced? For those fans that think LSU is afraid to play tough teams, look at LSU's over the years and then your teams....then talk your crap. Yes...we should have won....but remember this, it's easier to win 2 or 3 hard games in a season than it is to win 5 hard ones in a row. Raise your hand if you don't think Alabama hasn't had a scheduling advantage since the years of the Bear. You don't have to be as good when the schedule is done right.
I was disappointed in Kerr's comments last night. It was what I view as typical jealousy of SEC domination in sports. He can't brag about Arizona and the PAC 10 so he puts down the SEC by implying they pay players. Perhaps he should look at his own conference's misdeeds before casting a stone.
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