Woks in Politics.
Ok the guys are cracking my up with the comments.....LOL! You guys love the pics don't you?
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@zipporah @KalEl72 You would be surprised at how many of these women are married and have boyfriends. I know guys who like this look. I don't want to look like this but I sure admire her nerve and dedication.
@zipporah Hey everyone likes different things. I guess I'm not your type, LOL! Its cool, some men love it, some men don't.
@tonyrog Now that's funny!
@Zetahille I still feel you are bending and twisting what I said as well. Honey I have seen your other post and you weren't so nice to another person as well.
I never said a BW should not date you personally. I never said I would never date a WM......really we are on beyondblackwhite.com........really.....come on! So can you please stop saying I said that, because I did not!
Then you called me insecure......huh! The only thing I'm insecure about is the justice system. But I'm making personal indictments of you....really!
Like I said, White people should not accuse black people of being overly emotional or overboard with their assessments just because their perspective makes them uncomfortable......but I'm sure you wont cede that point me......It's ok I wont hold my breath.
Your opinion / reaction is based off a optimistic perception of law enforcement. My opinion / reaction is based of cynicism and experience.
Do you get it ( optimistic perception ) vs ( cynicism and experience ).
That is why a lot of us had the reaction that we had. In situations like this 9 times outta 10, "you" might side with the cops. In situations likes this 9 times outta 10, "I" might side with the civilian. Sometimes "you" will be wrong, and sometimes "I" will be wrong. People view things according to their own experiences, I'm sorry that this is hard for you to except. But if my cynicism makes me insecure, then oh well, call me what you wish.
As far as you calling them "knuckleheads," I've got no problem with that. I would not get it on with my man in public. These two being wrong for pulling a "Marvin Gay" in public won't change my brothers reality. He will get stopped by the cops when he comes to visit me (for the 5th time). It doesn't change the realities that many of us face.
You seem like the kind of person who likes to have the last word. So I will bow out gracefully and let you have it. I have given you enough of my time.
1 month ago on Celebrity Interracial Couple, Daniele Watts and Partner Detained by L.A. Police Who Mistook Her for Hoe and Her “John”
@teeyee Oh come on @jesslabellefleur did not insult you, she said the comparison was Illogical and plain stupid. See that's why people think your a troll. She did not call you out of your name.
The only one lumping people into a group is you! LOL! None of the women here said all cops (or even most cops), non of the women here said all white people (or even most white people). If we had a problem with all white people we would not be here.
You are the only one lumping people into a group because they are disagreeing with you.
LOL Your probably the same person.
I think we are being trolled but the same person maybe. Notice how that teeyee complained that I was generalizing but look what they said,
"So the way AA demand rights from American cops like they are owed something is quite odd......American cops are one of the best organized cops around the world and are being treated so bad (also treated bad by the some of the AA community whose own people kill their own everyday and no one protests or goes crazy about it like they do with white cops)....... think the white media showcases a lot of white on black crime because they realize a lot of AA are so drunk with it. Which is why I'm not surprised by mfishers comment, very typical and emotional."
Its funny they actually used the word typical. When I never said all cops or white people. Notice both accounts are new. The person is totally anonymous, they will swear up in down they are a BW. But no self respecting person of any group would generalize any group like they did. In fact if I anyone did call a WP racist just for disagreeing I would check them.
What is the saying, "If you let people talk they tell on themselves." This person is complaining the we are putting all cops in the same bunch but nobody said all cops or all white people. Buy you see teeyee said typical AA. If they would have said sometimes AA are hyper sensitive to race, I could except that at times we are, But typical.......LOL
Don't respond back to them. Unfollow the updates for this thread like I did. Just flag the last comment and let the moderator handle it.
1 month, 1 week ago on Celebrity Interracial Couple, Daniele Watts and Partner Detained by L.A. Police Who Mistook Her for Hoe and Her “John”
@teeyee @mfisher5 sorry honey but I did not say all cops, I said nothing close, yeah you can show your I.D. but everybody has a right yo know why they are being stopped. She can show her I.D. and ask politely why she is being stopped. There is nothing wrong with that.
To just put somebody in hand cups and not inform them of why they are being held/stopped is a violation or your rights.
When legitimate stops happens the cop will inform you of why your were stopped/pulled over.
@Zetahille @mfisher5 First I did not call you out of your name. I make it my personal policy to avoid that kind of stuff. Second I did not say all white men were the same. Third I did not say you were a horrible person. Maybe you should read your own post you seamed very unsympathetic to the victim here.
Yes I bought up the cop that's was raping women because you seem hesitant to acknowledge that people in power do really bad things. The only way we as citizens can assure the best protection that we pay for is to complain and vote. It seems that every time somebody criticizes the cops or any authority there is so much push back. The best way to exercise our rights in a democracy is to criticize authority.
When I was in the Air Force I lived in other countries and let me tell you I was glad to be home. I don't have a problem showing I.D. but anyone being stopped has a right to know why they are being stopped.
Just because a white person disagrees does not make them unable to understand, of course I know white people who get......and I know some that don't get it.
And just because a black person has a different opinion does not mean they dislike or have have some very deep seeded issues towards white people and the police, like you accused me of having. But yes most black people are a little cynical about the police, and for good reason.
Maybe they see things through a different lenses that was my point.
Also I did not say I would not date a WM I said,
One of the reasons "SO MANY" BW are hesitant to date WM.....you just proved the point with your post. "He will never understand me, "He wont understand my experience," "He cant relate to what I deal with, " "He cant see things from my perspective."
Its is a FEAR that many BW have. That is not an indictment of you personally and I'm sorry if you took it that way.
Its funny how you accuse me of being judgmental and jumping to conclusions and overboard with their assessments but aren't you doing the same thing when you say, "from rude, insecure, judgmental people," and accusing me of not liking WM or WP in general.
Here is the thing people need to understand.
Black people should not assume that a white person is unsympathetic or racist for having a different view.......I will cede that point to you.
White people should not accuse black people of being overly emotional or overboard with their assessments just because their perspective makes them uncomfortable.
There is blame on both sides in "any" conversation about race.
@Statuesque Can I share something with you guys that I found really disturbing.
A lot of people who hate black women claim that black cannot have lasting interracial relationships. I found a really disturbing video with a Ethiopian woman trashing black american woman and it was promoted by a black man trolling youtube to trash black women. It is really sad but I think we should put her on blast. She is saying black women don't have successful interracial relationships.
I know your meant well but this link has been removed.
1. We do not give page hits to those who seek to denigrate black women.
2. We do not have to justify our interest in IRRs.
3. We should not waste our time arguing with those who hate us.
Hope you understand.
1 month, 1 week ago on Open Forum: Okay; We Know White Men Married to Black Women are 44% Less Likely to Divorce. But Why?
Hey ladies it appears we have a hidden troll in our midst. Be careful of people pretending to be something that they are not.
@tonyrog I just posted about voting.....right on time!!!
@SacLove76 The militia in this country and no one is doing a damn thing about it. Yes we need to protest and do something about it. People need to vote, but of course this year they wont. So sad, so sad.
@teeyee I'm not sure what you were reading but I never said all cops were bad, and I never said all cops were out to get black people. I never said today is equivalent to the past.
If we are going to discuss like adults please don't assign words to me that I did not write.
This is not China or Russia. If you feel that way then don't complain when the federal government over reaches. People have to protest the bad behavior from cops until it changes.
We will have to agree to disagree. Enough is enough.
I notice a lot of the push back is coming from white men. One of the reasons so many BW are hesitant to date WM.
"He will never understand me, "He wont understand my experience," "He cant relate to what I deal with, " "He cant see things from my perspective."
People need to understand that everyone has a different perspective that is based on their different realities. Ignoring that fact will not help you with the sistas. I seeing a lot of, "just except it stuff." This is the USA not China or Russia! All of this crap has to stop!
@Zetahille I may be open to dating non-black men but reading your post is why I'm really hesitant to date WM. I cant live or marry somebody who refuses to try and see things from somebody else's point of view. I will the address the very naive and arrogant post.
1) First you said, "If the police ask you to show your ID, just show it to them. What's the big deal?"
It is not illegal to ask why you are being detained? This is not Russia or China the last time I checked. You have a right to know why you are being stopped in the first place? A cop making a legit stop will always tell you why he/she is stopping you. Its a very big deal if it happens to you or members in your family over and over again. I live in a suburb but every time my brother comes to visit me he gets stopped. Really.....every time........every time! How often is your brother-in-law pulled over? Yeah its easy to brush it off when it has never happened to you or only once. I assume you have never been through it because you mentioned your brother-in-law and not yourself. So how many times does a person have to go through the same crap before its to much.
What should those eight women who were sexually assaulted/raped by the cop in Oklahoma have done? Tell me genius what were they supposed to do?
2) Then you said, "Most police, if you just show them your ID when they ask, will take a quick look and then hand it right back and move on. No harm, no foul. Does it hurt your pride and ego to have to put up with their crap when they decide to flick it? It stinks, but it's just the way it is. Respect and patience are things we all have to exercise when dealing with the police."
What planet are you living on? No harm, no foul.....it stinks, but its just the way it is. You can never be compliant enough with a officer is dead wrong. Arresting you for asking why you are being stopped is a problem. I find it very odd that folks you love to lecture everyone about freedom and how much you love rights as long as they are giving to the right people.
Then you said, "but it's just the way it is." Thank God Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglas, Dr King and others did not have your attitude. If everyone had that attitude nothing would ever change. As a woman I don't like for a man to tell me how to feel as a woman.....I don't know whats its like to be a man, do you know what it is like to me black.....no.
Just because something does not exist in your "white" world doesn't mean it isn't a reality for other people.
I will not have me experience as a woman diminished by some man and I will not have my experience diminished by a white person. Is a black person ever a victim in your mind or are we just making it all up. Perception is reality my friend.
Why is that every time black people complain about the cops some white person likes tell about one token bad experience that some white person had. First of all black people have never claimed that we are the only victims of the police so stop with the pathetic, "oh I know a white person who had a bad experience with the cops." Well every person in my immediate family has had a bad experience, trust me, my list is way longer than yours!
3) You also said, "Make your complaints later."
That is the most naive crap in your post. It is so naive is offensive. Make your complaints later, really, really! Tell that to the sexual assault victims in the military! Huh where is their justice? How can you say you love freedom and America and lecture black people about how they should just except the status quo? Enough is enough. Some cops do abuse their power.....wait I thought that was wrong? So abuse of power is wrong when its the federal government but when local authorities abuse power it's ok?
And Finally, stop lecturing everyone else about how they are supposed to feel. You are a white man. Are you so blind the idea that other people have a different reality? God why is that so hard for people to understand? Why would I date/marry or procreate with someone who will never take my side or even try to see things through the lenses that I wear in life?
One of the reasons so many BW are hesitant to date WM.....you just proved the point with your post.
"He will never understand me, "He wont understand my experience," "He cant relate to what I deal with, " "He cant see things from my perspective."
So I will make this simple and translate your post: Why don't black people just shut up and do what they are told!
@RxDawg Like I said.....as someone who's family member was murdered by the klan....I find your post disrespectful to my late uncle. Again why exaggerate and trivialize my uncle's murder to make your point. My uncle was murderd in 2001.....stop with this the "new" Klan crap. I dont agree with what Rob Barker said about RG3 but stop exagerrating. Dont compare someones stupid words to a group or people who have a 150 years or murder/hate. Dont contact me anymore.
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Typical black racist ....yup because white people are all angels.
When people have valid points to make they don't need to over generalize to make the point.
Wow somebody does not like black people.
(ahh sits and waits for reply full of cursing and name calling)
@DonIarussi ...also as someone who's family member was murdered by the klan....I find your post disrespectful to my late uncle. Again why exaggerate and trivialize my uncle's murder to make your point. This is about sports not politics there are enough anti Obama blogs out there we don't need you picking fights on this one.
P.S. The democrats started the klan along with confederates in the 1800's .......its 2012. The Republicans were advocates for blacks in the 1800's.....its 2012. Neither one of those parties are the same anymore.
This is a sports blog take that politics bull crap some place else.
@rene demonteverde First of all most black athletes are with black women. Second your assumption that about who most black athletes date is a dumb as this guy trying to assume RG3 should be a certain way because he is black.
@Chauncey Freeman You just contradicted yourself. You wrote about not being divisive and you blame it all on liberals. Bullcrap.....their are people like this on both sides of the aisle. The real problem is people like you Mr. Freeman who act like the problem lies with one side and the folks on their side is perfect. I'm a independent and I hate leftist and right wingers.
@DonIarussi The announcer who said it is "black" also. More hateful than the "klan" obviously you are not very educated about the Klan's body count. Make your point without over exaggerating. Comparing anyone to the klan means they go around lynching people.