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I wouldn't get too freaked out over this. If it's just a try out there's little risk involved. Perhaps the guy will be super motivated to prove that he still belongs in the league. Best case scenario they got themselves a bottom six guy with some size and snarl who has a good pair of hands who knows how to handle playing in big games. Worst case he doesn't make the team (don't for a second think he's making the team over a rookie who's a better player than him).
6 days, 2 hours ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
If i was him I'd wanna go to Calgary with my old linemates/best buds - of course it's bloody cold in Calgary!
2 weeks, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
Those lines make as much common sense as anything. I like splitting up our 2 larger top 6 forwards. Both can use their size, puck retrieval, fancy stats abilities to create space for the smaller, slicker players. I do think Nash in Pouliot's role makes alot of sense. For all the frustration we had with him last year he shoots alot and can finish. He would not be in a position to "do too much" in this situation, he can just focus on getting good shots on net and being strong on the puck.
I would ultimately like to see Fast/Lindberg find their way into the lineup but they've got to earn that beer - which is why it made good sense to bring in Lombardi and Stepniak. (still unsure why Tanner Glass makes more sense than a cheaper Carbomb but so is everybody).
2 weeks, 6 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@JoeSec.327 Wonder what the cap hit of that team woulda been nowadays? Alotta UFA vets on that 94 cup team!
Will miss watching him play. He was always far too underrated for what he did - a great fundamental player that just seemed like a great guy.
3 weeks, 6 days ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
He's a right wing. Go take a look at the right wingers on the Hawks depth chart (it's insane). So he either has to play out of position or someone already on the Hawks has to = not the best situation for a kid that wants to crack the NHL this year. Also, the Hawks are up against it money wise so it might be a financial thing as well (not sure if a guy in his boat can receive bonuses etc.). Add it up and he clearly feels it is not the ideal environment for him to start his career. Considering there will be multiple teams that want him it's not like his only other option is Winnipeg. I don't blame him tho it SUCKS for the Hawks if he walks for nothing (heck even Calgary got something in return for Tim Erixon from the Rangers).
1 month ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@Say my Name @KevinTheNYRBlog He is a very good 2, that said, there are few true number 1's and as we've seen nowadays barely any of them become UFA's (and oh by the way at that point many of them are just about to enter their decline). The reasonable alternative is to have 3 or 4 very good centers (lose your matchup on #1, win it at 3 and 4). The Rangers made it to the finals with that philosophy last year - and perhaps if Richards had a bit more gas in the tank a couple of those OT games against the supremely awesome games (not to mention possession numbers) go in the other direction.
@Hotfreak Telly, no question
1 month ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/rangers-sign-brassard-to-five-year-deal.html
With the future center market so bare you see just how much this deal makes sense. He'll only be 31 by the time it expires. If he gives what he's done so far the deal is reasonable, if he takes another step forward (i.e.50-60 pts) it'll be a steal.
@Blueshirts Corner I loved Dubi but I think at the time he was still growing as a player/leader. Torts wanted a vet to be an A at the time and I can't say I disagree with that. Richards was quite deserving.
1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
Girardi and Staal aren't losing their letters so fast. Not that a guy like MSL isn't worthy of such an honor but it sounds like it'll be McDonaugh but who knows.
Not my first choice for a solution but if they can figure out a long term deal before the year is up so be it. Obviously the Callahan debacle gives me pause for that but I doubt this team is willing to lose Zucc for nothing.
Holy shit even Henrik's real estate agent sucks. How about putting up a floorplan for a 6mil plus property??
(sorry am disgusted with my apartment search :) )
The vets are fine to bring in. They create competition and don't just give the kids a free ride to the NHL. If the rookies are NHL ready they'll find their way into the lineup and the vets will either turn out to be good depth guys and/or trade bait for a lower round draft pick. Win/win.
Great stuff and thank you for attempting to talk everyone off the ledge with regards to McIlrath. Your analysis makes sense - we all want to see this guy pulverize people and be able to take on anyone in the league but for guys like that it takes time. He can't just skate his way out of a mistake the way McDonaugh can so it takes alot of learning to be able to anticipate the speed of the game.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@gravey94 Let's see what happens - they're gonna sign these guys and Brooks has little to write about right now (and we have little to chat about right now really)...I'm sure these will all get done. We're not exactly hearing about a Ryan O'Reilly situation right now.
BTW how stupid it not signing Stepan to a 6 year 4 million a year deal last summer gonna look after this season? I hate the concept of lowballing those who do not need to be lowballed.
Great stuff and great summer hockey geeking!
I'm fine with this...they need some veterans to create competition - the kids can't just think a job is being handed to them (when you were 20 years old did you not need a kick in your ass?)
His cap hit is fine as well, if he doesn't pan out he could be valuable for the AHL kids without damage to the Rangers.
Great work - you probably should be working for the team with that kind of a writeup.
meh they can have Heatley, not a fan of scorers that are well past their prime who aren't guys that do the little fundamental parts of the game well.
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
@Josh-CK Heh I have a feeling by the end of the year we'd prefer it being Lindberg, Miller, and Fast :)
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/the-clear-cut-case-of-tanner-glass-hes-not-good-at-hockey.html
@Herman_NYRBlog @jiBRO22 It is quite mind boggling why they would let Dorsett go (shorter term/better contract/good player to boot) so they could sign Glass to a lousier contract. I would imagine he had some form of "locker room" issue (coach, other players) because the whole thing really doesn't make a lotta sense from the outside looking in.
@Say my Name I mean, the Kings were the top team this season in all "advanced stats" and the Sabres were last (Corsi, etc.) so it is not entirely a subjective analysis. It is an evaluation tool, same as scouting/"the eye test". It's not the only thing but it has merit. It's why Edmonton shelled out a bazillion for Captn Taco and Anton Stralman got paaaayyyd.
I've not watched Tanner Glass play enough to say "this guy sucks" but going on simple shots for/shots against relative to teammate (a fair enough stat to place value in) he's got some 'splainin to do.
PS Enjoy the Scotch
@KevinTheNYRBlog @cb1 I think they're hoping for somewhere in between but more so Dorsett? (If that's the case it's unrealistic - btw Dorsett did start the year killing penalties)...I don't think it is reasonable to compare Glass to Boyle - as we will unfortunately learn, Brian Boyle is a pretty special, somewhat unique hockey player especially when you factor in just how darned good he is in the playoffs.
Appreciate the open minded approach. I would be far happier about Glass being a replacement for Dorsett IF it was on a one year show me deal. A guy with his "unfortunate" stats really didn't earn himself a whole lot more than Daniel Carcillo did (three year deal for a guy who plays his game on the wrong side of 30 seems rather excessive). I dig that he blocks shots and has a ton of hits and plays with a lot of guts, but if the guy can't transition the puck to offense and make solid fundamental plays to keep the puck he's gonna have a hard time helping the team out.
@gravey94 Well said. The other guys didn't have a rookie banging on their door to take their lineup spot. Moore, while he's shown plenty so far, does have two kids that appear to have promising futures in the not too distant future
The only thing that irritates me is shipping out Dorsett (a good 4th liner) for a THREE YEAR DEAL for Tanner Glass (who according to his numbers should think about another line of work). There just doesn't seem to be a lot of sense behind this move especially when they have cap issues. It's not like Glass is gonna beat up Milan Lucic or anything so it's pretty frustrating.
Otherwise, I am merely saddened to lose Boyle, etc. I really enjoyed rooting for these guys (they all blossomed as NYRs). But I understand the whys of things.
2 months ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
Sounds good - but at this point it still seems like the most likely rookies to make the team and possibly play are Miller, Fast, Lindberg, Allen, and McIlrath.
@nickdesposito @nyrangers123 Agree - it's a useful tool but not the only tool. The most annoying hockey fans are those who do believe it is the only thing and take the attitude that everyone else is a moron for disagreeing (Ryan Lambert from Puck Daddy is very representative of this)
@Bring back Langdon journeyman type...another Aaron Johnson type for organization depth
2 months ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/2014-articles/free-agency-tracker-7114.html
The way it's looking we'd better hope Miller/Fast/Lindberg/Kristo etc can play consistently in the NHL next year...our forward group just took a major depth hit (not to mention size)
@Gorangers0525 Brian Burke still thinks it's the 70's?
@EquusBiz @johnAMIRANTESrug doubtful unless Dan Boyle grows a half a foot:)
Zuccarrello only has 1 year left as an RFA yes? That deal would be a STEAL for what he'll get on the open market
@TruBluEsp @kevin11 Sorry disagree...Glass's possession stats were in the toilet...he's a placeholder at best. Really don't understand why they traded Dorsett to sign him unless Dorsett just didn't blend well in the room
Remember from Callahan the Tax Laws in Tampa - even with a match the Rangers would be offering significantly less.
ech Tanner Glass...there's always gotta be one signing I hate (Boogaard, Asham, Pyatt)
Suppose it makes sense but the age/tread on the tires is worrisome
Boyle for 2 years 9 mil
I love Benny but WOW. I can't believe I'm quoting Larry Brooks but he really should give some of that money to AV. And probably even more of it to Zuccarrello and Brassard
@Say my Name Fair enough - I too would like them to exercise some intelligence today. To me Pouliot at 3 mil a year for 3 years IF he plays the way he did last year is not ridiculous compared to what other guys are getting. Dom Moore at mid-high 1's for a coupla years is rational enough.
Tanner Glass at the league minimum?...just no. Resign Carcillo to fight Simmonds.
I'm not looking forward to today...officially losing about 25% of a Finals team sucks. Seems like the Rangers MO, make a great run, lose half the team :(
Re: all these proposed guys - the team is SOOOO small right now...if you lose your size (Boyle, Poos) please get some guys who can play who are over 200 pounds to replace them. Thank you.
Yea I don't love the fit of a more "numbersy" alternative to Pouliot. Rangers have enough guys like Raymond, they really do need the grit and size Pouliot gave them last year (can't believe I'm saying that).
If he cuts into 3 years of free agency NO WAY he only signs on for 3 million a year. He'll be north of 4 mil a year easily at that term and would be a bargain if he keeps playing the way he did this year.
Size, speed, 15 goals, physical play who can play the PP...better believe Pouliot is gonna get 3 million and I think that's low with the thin market out there. Boyle's gonna get the same amount somewhere else to be slotted as a third liner, you gotta sign someone so why not Benny?
I'd sign him to that Desharnais contract in a heartbeat...heck I'd even give him another year/million or two. Yes it has only been one year of this phenomenal level of play but during this year he consistently passed the eye test. Those assists he was making were often of the highest quality. He consistently competed, became a penalty killer. Plays with an edge. In short he was arguably their best forward all season.
2 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://nyrangersblog.com/
The kid is a beast who is an absolute disaster to defend against. This season he definitely had ups and downs...from what I understand this is a guy who so very badly wants to do well he has likely done a bit of "overthinking" in the early stages of his career.
However I think as we saw in the playoffs those days are likely gone and what we have here is a full on, fire breathing, thoroughbred who has a heckuva career in front of him who has a rare skillset. He is only going to get better and I would tend to disagree that Kane has a bigger upside than him.
Or look at it this way: In the playoffs how badly did you want Rick Nash to just start playing like Chris Kreider?
@Herman_NYRBlog @Josh-CK Thus is the reaping of trading away the first pick 3 years in a row. Not having a first rounder in 2015 is pretty rough but it is clear they are in win now mode.
I would also say another big problem with our forward prospect pool is the lack of size. Other than Nieves and to some extent Miller & Haggerty they are all quite smallish. For a team that needs to get heavier that looks like it will lose Brian Boyle this is a bit of an issue.
That said let's keep in mind we managed to trade for Ryan McDonaugh and pull Hank outta a magician's hat. So just because one does not obtain a first rounder does not mean you are necessarily screwed.
@johnnyb3910 @gravey94 question tho: would Boyle take that big contract with a lousy team? Because the really good teams in this league would likely slot him in exactly as the Rangers did.
@Say my Name Thornton's numbers/how well he played were also in the toilet this year. I feel what you want but I just don't think he's the right guy at this point of his career.