Thoughtful Analysis About the Washington Redskins
@dreadpirateroberts @SkinsHogHeaven Remains to be seen. I hope so.
2 hours, 22 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@dreadpirateroberts And a Happy Thanksgiving to you too.
The big noise in this discussion is about the ONE QB on the roster that never had to **earn** his starting slot. The big question about his future is whether he has the mental toughness to equal adversity and fight his way back.
RG can do it. I hope he does. More than anyone else, he made it uncertain that he will.
9 hours, 57 minutes ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@saveelati Your note intrigued me, so I went to the Hate Watch site by the Southern Poverty Law Center and searched by he name of the article, the name of the author, the name of this blog, the terms "Indian," and "redskin." I could not find links from there to here, nor any comments about this story.
Help me out by providing a link here.
By the way, I am old enough to have experienced and to had seen old school racism against African-Americans. I do not need an academic study to know the difference between real bigotry and the way the football team and others market themselves. The Washington Redskins have never used the team name as an expression of social policy or the devaluation of anyone. It's why Redskins fans, who include Native Americans, do not get the point of the argument.
In this story, a Native American woman, Ms. Davidson, argues that the removal of Native American sport images ls leading to the removal of Native Americans from popular culture and that the worst offenders are non-Native education officials who reject Tribal leaders pleading to keep Indian-oriented team names at their own schools on Tribal lands. She has a problem with that and so do I.
If the folks at Hate Watch read the story with any insight, I am sure they would agree that there is an argument even if they reach another conclusion.
3 days, 6 hours ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@172 Flyer Shanahan gave Snyder little choice, but the feud between the two most important employees in the company should never have gone that far without the owner intervening.
We have gone through six coaching changes with Snyder, which gets to your point -- the mismatch of carryover players to new coaches. Firing people is the worst solution. Thanks for commenting.
5 days, 15 hours ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@jackthezombiekiller Hard to say how this will play out, but I am not there yet. It's also hard to respond when McCoy and Cousins have more wins than Griffin this year.
1 week ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
How did you guys miss out on the trade for Harvin?
Wait. What? Oh. Well, never mind.
1 month, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/2014-articles/acting-cordial-talking-vikings-vs-bills-with-buffalo-wins.html
@dreadpirateroberts The coach said something similar. I gather the team was overly impressed by its good showing in Philadelphia.
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
You almost make this Spartans grad feel sorry for you. Almost.
I shall stifle the lol, though.
1 month, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://bloguin.com/thestudentsection/
South Park promoted Cousins to starter in place of Griffin. Perhaps he is not second tier. He is a pop culture star.
2 months ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/sept/redskins-preview.html
You guys never disappoint.
2 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/
@carlbrown12345 I cannot dispute your analysis. When Shanahan schemed an offense RG could run, we saw the read option, a lot of cut back runs by Morris, a playoff appearance and Griffin was the reason the team won. Gruden showed us a safe scheme. RG was not the reason the Redskins lost, but neither he nor the scheme led to a comeback. Just sayin'.
Which brings us to, "Be careful what you wish for. It might come true."
2 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@ReGinaJZuni Hello ReGina. This topic is about the trademark of a sports team. All comments from all parties are welcome. I also accept the All-American One Drop Rule as articulated by Thomas Jefferson and others, to wit, if you have any ancestry that is not European, then you are not Caucasian. You are whatever that one drop is.
I am satisfied that Mr, Yancey has as much NA ancestry as Ray Haltritter or Elizabeth Warren who both have made their thoughts plain. Is there a dispute with what Mark wrote in this story?
2 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@dreadpirateroberts Reader contributions are always welcome. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org. Send your story to me there. The preferred format is .doc.
I have been punching back since 2012. That is like bringing a squirt gun to a fire hose fight.So I hope you are taking the time to respond, responsibly, to blasts from the changers that are published through the media. The Washington Newspaper (see what I did there) does not publish balanced telling of this story, although they seem to think that they are. So, the more commentary in more places than here helps.
3 months ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
Posted because the topic was timely and mentioned Mark Sanchez instead of Kirk Cousins. Everybody, perhaps including RGIII, seems too anxious to trade Cousins. However, a team interested in acquiring a veteran quarterback would do it at the beginning of the league year in February so their man can start studying the playbook and work with the coaches by OTAs. 'Plug and play' works for PCs, not for quarterbacks acquired in the middle of training camp.
3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@BrandonWing @firegecko Except that Redskins fans would never do that. "Redskins" is so revered a term that we only apply it to players on the team, or to fans of the team at a game when they are wearing a Redskins jersey. I am the 'Redskin' in any such conversation.
Redskins, the brand, is about football and only about football, never about real people. The word most used to slur Native Americans is "Indian." Used in a sentence, "The only good Indian...."
I am a Redskins fan. In your hypothetical case: 1. Walk into an Indian casino. 2. Look for a Native American worker because very few Native Americans work in Indian casinoes. 3. Call him by his or her name as shown on their name badge, because that's what people do. Why would expect otherwise unless you have bigoted, stereotypical views of Redskins fans? 4. Wait for their reaction that I expect will be, "How may I help you, sir." 5. Ask for chips because ... casino.
3 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://bloguin.com/thisgivensunday/
3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/colin-cowherd-just-might-be-worse-than-skip-bayless.html
@SteveSmith15 Thank you for your comment. It was very informative.
The question is, How many people know this? If they are aware of Catlin, how many have viewed his work? (I will). The answer is few and fewer. You would not have had the opportunity to speak of this except that it revolves around an NFL team. Then it is around about the team and not really about the people, which is the point we make about sports team mascots.
If Daniel Snyder caved on this a year ago, Native American history and issues would have disappeared from popular conversation then.
3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@aprilwalker14 I really do believe it had more to do with the $10.4 million owed to him this season than any other thing. Would have kept him at $6 million.
Gotta pinch them pennies, you know.
4 months ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@dreadpirateroberts It does not carry more weight, but the lengthy story in The Post (of course) will have wide circulation.
@StudleyDudley131 I will allow that they are the exceptions that prove the rule.
4 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
There was a time you LOVED Chris Kluwe. Admit it.
But, (or butt) I question the propriety of using the word "asshole" in sensitive story like this one.
4 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/
@aprilwalker14 Guess I am a tad out of touch, April. What did he say?
@aprilwalker14 Amen, sister. Amen.
4 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@aprilwalker14 Always appreciate your comments, April.
@fgoodwin You might be older than I am! Thank you for the clarification and references.
The main point remains, however. G.P. Marshall hated seen LeBaron in a Cowboys uniform however that came to be. It partly explains his animus towards the Cowboys. Fans have bought into it since the 1960's, well before George Allen came to the Redskins and took the rivalry to another level.
4 months, 3 weeks ago on Redskins rivalry with Cowboys didn't start with George Allen
Sure. Listen to the Cowboy. Emmett is wrong about that anyway. The people whipped up in this hysteria would only see that suggestion as a half measure and bash Snyder even more. Neutrals would say, "If you change part of the name, why not all of it?" Pressure on the team would go up, not down. Just go count your rings, Emmett.
5 months ago on Conversation @ http://thesportsdaily.net/emmitt-smith-on-redskins-name-change-drop-the-red-and-keep-the-skins/
@ImNotYourMascot I imply no such thing (duly enrolled in a federally recognized Native American Indian tribe in this country). I do not confuse registration with ancestry. I am satisfied that One Wolf is as authentically Native as Ray Halbritter.
Hog Heaven does not have tests of racial or registration purity before contributors or respondents may make a point.
More to the point is that I, as a Redskins fan and history buff, have described the origin of the word. My work was clinical. One Wolf's was eloquent. I need that to counter some of the canard published by Esquire.com and others.
If you can point out factual errors in the post about the source and meaning of "redskin" to counter what One Wolf wrote, I would love to read it here.
5 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@joebobbean And your response is exactly appropriate if you oppose the name.
@ImNotYourMascot And your point is...?
Wish I wrote this. Good points.
You do repeat one error often seen in this controversy, confusion in the use of the word "redskin" and "Redskins." One word is disputably a slur. The other is a brand of a football team. The word in the dictionary is "redskin." The dictionary says that word is sometimes used to disparage real people.
"The Redskins(r)" is a brand of football entertainment. It is not and has never been used to disparage real people. The brand is always presented with Capital R and is always plural. Spelling is how to tell the difference.
The word in the dictionary fell into such disuse in the 20th-Century, that the brand name "Redskins" was all most people saw in print and why it has come to mean a sports team and ONLY a sports team.
When people slurred Native Americans they used all the words in place that described them including the common variation of Indian (rhymes with "engine") and variations of the n-word, prairie n-word and red n-word.
Critics will say I am splitting hairs, but the difference is as enormous as "god" and "God." These are not the same word and, when properly used, are not interchangeable. The Redskins(r) is not interchangeable with redskin.
5 months, 2 weeks ago on True Lies and the Washington Redskins
@washingtonfan When one is speaking of the Washington Redskins football team, one says The Redskins. The Redskins are about football and only about football. When one is speaking of real people, one says Native American.
Sports fans get it that mascots reflect the team and not real people. A Native American Redskins fan told me that.
The word that may be a slur is "redskin." The brand is "The Redskins(r)." Trademark owners, not dictionaries, get to define the meaning of the brand when applied to their line of business. Spelling and punctuation are how to tell them apart. The difference is as meaningful as god and God. Spelled the same. Pronounced the same, but they are not the same word.
6 months ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
Those hog trough urinals were the best crowd movement feature at the Metrodome. I've visited many NFL stadiums with the conventional one-man-one-pot urinals. The back-up queue had the bladder-bursting potential of inhibiting timely passage of filtered beer. Hog troughs, however, allow more men to stand cheek to cheek, so to speak, in the best tradition of Man Rule No. 1: Eyes straight ahead or straight down.
I hope to see improved hog troughs in your billion dollar New Vikings Stadium (pending naming rights) and something similar for the women. Every time I see a line of women waiting to enter the Ladies Room, I think the Lord He made me a man.
6 months ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/2014-articles/buy-a-vikings-pot-to-piss-in.html
Super Bowl 1992. Good times!
6 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/
@dcunlimited "Robert" Sherman is clearly the product of incomplete editing. thanks for pointing it out.
6 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
Cousins was worth a fourth round pick to Cleveland and worth more than that to Washington just like Bruce Allen said long time ago. What's the story here? How is that a surprise?
From Cousins' viewpoint, he would have gone from a roster with RGIII to a roster with Brian Hoyer, his predecessor QB at Michigan State, and Johnny Manziel. What's the win for him?
Hoyer and Cousins have similar traits so the pairing might have worked if the Browns weren't able to snag Manziel. Now, if Browns had kept all three, Cousins would have dropped to third on the depth chart, because Manziel is probably the No. 1 guy no matter what the owner says. Or more likely, Hoyer or Cousins would have been released in September. You know it would have been Cousins.
6 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Report-Browns-tried-to-trade-for-Kirk-Cousins.html
u so funny
6 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/2014-articles/spielman-passes-on-johnny-manziel-because-hes-weak.html
High praise indeed coming from Clemons.
6 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://bloguin.com/thisgivensunday/2014-articles/blake-bortles-was-the-right-pick-for-the-jaguars.html
@dreadpirateroberts Um, no.
6 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@starchild053 Yeah but, you said "dallas." :-D
7 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/2014-articles/rich-tandler-on-rgiiis-offseason-play-this-year-vs-last-year.html
@starchild053 Nope. Why would you say that on a site called Redskins Hog Heaven????
@JaxJoe I read this and the theme from CHEERS popped in my head.
"Sometimes you wanna go
where everybody knows your name
and they are always glad you came.
You wanna be where you can see
our troubles are all the same.
You wanna be where
everybody knows your name."
Thank you for commenting.
7 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/2014-articles/redskins-players-put-full-court-press-on-jdax.html
@aprilwalker14 Perfect example: Redskins let LB Rob Jackson test the free agent market. They just resigned him. It's their new way of doing business.
You don't lose players to a fair deal. For both sides to know what's fair, the player has to test the market.
7 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/2014-articles/rich-tandler-redskins-sign-s-ryan-clark-to-one-year-deal.html
@Spiffo Not about Pinkston. It's about Ryan Clark and No. 36 in the video, St. Sean Taylor.
Oh, HTTR = Hail To The Redskins. #HTTR is one of the more popular hashes tweeted by Redskins fans.
7 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@Spiffo @SkinsHogHeaven I ... still don't know what you just said.
Pleas don't make me Google it.
7 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/2014-articles/peering-into-the-mind-of-desean-jackson-through-the-eyes-of-riley-freeman.html
@aprilwalker14 Figure Jackson to take two and a-half seasons to wear on your nerves.
7 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/2014-articles/desean-jackson-and-the-redskins-6-things-you-havent-thought-about.html
@aprilwalker14 Even Gruden doesn't know how all the pieces fit together. It's his job, not the QB's, to figure it out. That has to be easier and more fun than game planning withOUT DJax.
Garcon was one of the crew that hung out with Jackson Monday night, so he's on board.
These Snyder-Specials haven't worked out in the past, but I like the move. I like the contract. Jackson has a one-year honeymoon when he does well to get that chip off his shoulder. By mid-2015 season, Redskins fans will see what the Eagles saw that got him fired. The Skins won't be locked into a long-term contract by then.
So the guy is a little showboating street punk. So was Brandon Banks. We liked him, didn't we?
@aprilwalker14 The Redskins are (mostly) into market value deals for players with an eye towards the back end of contracts. He visited. They talked. He hoped for higher. He took time to check out other teams. He returned. No different than with London Fletcher, DeAngelo Hall or Brian Orakpo who said he would not sign a franchise offer.
I like it, but it seems to be unsettling to a lot of Redskins fans.
@southphillyben Um, thank you for the comment.
Somebody, please tell the old guy what is awesss?
@Harry Pianos You aren't from Texas are you. (Or. are you being snarky?)
Many Longhorn fans believe that nothing McCoy ever did as quarterback measured up to Vince Young. Vince was so perfect that he could walk on ....
Oh, never mind. If you have to explain it, it's not really funny.
7 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/2014-articles/colt-mccoy-is-a-joke.html
@jhop You shouldn't say Deadskins because it offends the dead.