Thoughtful Analysis About the Washington Redskins
@rdsknzfan Thanks for reading and commenting. The touchdown reversal was a blow, but did not affect the ultimate outcome for the reason already stated. The Redskins managed a lone field goal in the second half. The final score would have been 24-20 Giants if RG's touchdown stood up. No amount of bitterness at the call changes that fact.
You don't have to be a hater to acknowledge that. The name if this blog is not "I Hate Redskins Hog Heaven." If you knew the amount of money I spent on Redskins stuff in five decades of following this team, or the amount of time I spend defending the team name, You would know how far off base you are.
Bad calls happen in games. It's part of the drama of sports. Coaches tell players all the time that the way to overcome bad calls is to play so that it does not make a difference. Play through it.
The Redskins closed the half with the lead. They could have answered score for score to win. They could have stopped Odell Beckham. They, including the coach, could have kept their heads like professionals with that call instead of losing their minds and giving the Giants a gift of field position.
So many ways the Redskins could have turned the game to their advantage, but did not. I certainly HOPE they did not fixate on the score reversal -- as some fans are right now -- instead of fixating on the next play. Because if that's what happened, we are in worse shape than any of us thought.
I hate that.
3 days, 20 hours ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@Tom Jackson Frankly, the Redskins can learn A LOT, from the Eagles and Ravens about running a football operation. I keep hoping they will pick up the phone. I keep getting kicked in the face.
1 week, 2 days ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
College football might be a purer form of competition than pro football, but both are forms of sports entertainment. So lets not blame the selection committee is for looking at the whole range of factors for compelling match-ups. Bowl committees have done that since Bowls were invented.
I think the Selection Committee did a great job overall. I prefer human thinking to metrics and I trust that the committee was more thorough in ranking the Top 25 than AP reporters and coaches. I never believed that reporters and coaches looked at every game of every team they ranked. This is a better process.
The real issue is that only four teams get to play off. I think it should be eight. Then TCU and Baylor would be in. The Nos. 9 and 10 teams would grouse, but every conference champion would be in and maybe a team from whatever we now call the mid-majors.
More compelling games. More people watching. More opportunity to sell sponsored playoff bowls. More money for the conferences. What could go wrong?
Are they really going to make us wait 10 years to get to that?
1 week, 2 days ago on Conversation @ http://bloguin.com/thestudentsection/2014/college-football-injustices-tcu-and-baylor-dont-rank-highly-on-the-list-but-they-reflect-a-longstanding-problem-in-college-football.html
Meh. Finished this story and pushed the "Publish" button just when I heard that guy refer to this event during the Seahawks-Eagles game.
1 week, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
More proof that the Big XII needs a championship game.
1 week, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://thesportsdaily.net/art-briles-rips-big-12-commissioner-video/
@vwjpb Hello, Fellow Spartan. I walk around East Lansing back in 19 Long-ago when out-of-state tuition was affordable. Thank you for commenting.
I cannot disagree with anything you've said. I prefer that Griffin and Gruden and that Gruden and the front office work things out. Things may be too toxic for that to happen, I know.
I tell my readers that Kirk never performed for the Spartans as he has here. Kirk won games in East Lansing. Even Coach Dantonio would not have given him as many chances as Gruden did. Kirk is better than that. He needs a fresh start, but his rookie contract makes it hard to release him. Colt McCoy makes a higher veteran salary and his contract is over this year. The Redskins must sweeten his deal AND offer him a legit chance to start to keep him. Thus, Kirk may be trapped here until the end of his rookie contract in 2015.
Robert Griffin III is a dual threat quarterback. Dual Threat! He needs to remember there ARE options in read options other than he. He does not need to run 74 yards as he did against the Vikings. 7.4 yards for a first down is just as good. Getting the ball in the hands of other playmakers is just as good.
But it takes a coach that believes in Robert and believes in that offense. That guy is now the OC in Cleveland after Robert pouted him off the team. More proof that karma is a B.
1 week, 6 days ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
My patience is not tested. Done with DISH for this very reason.
2 weeks, 2 days ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/
@dreadpirateroberts @SkinsHogHeaven Remains to be seen. I hope so.
3 weeks, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@dreadpirateroberts And a Happy Thanksgiving to you too.
The big noise in this discussion is about the ONE QB on the roster that never had to **earn** his starting slot. The big question about his future is whether he has the mental toughness to equal adversity and fight his way back.
RG can do it. I hope he does. More than anyone else, he made it uncertain that he will.
@saveelati Your note intrigued me, so I went to the Hate Watch site by the Southern Poverty Law Center and searched by he name of the article, the name of the author, the name of this blog, the terms "Indian," and "redskin." I could not find links from there to here, nor any comments about this story.
Help me out by providing a link here.
By the way, I am old enough to have experienced and to had seen old school racism against African-Americans. I do not need an academic study to know the difference between real bigotry and the way the football team and others market themselves. The Washington Redskins have never used the team name as an expression of social policy or the devaluation of anyone. It's why Redskins fans, who include Native Americans, do not get the point of the argument.
In this story, a Native American woman, Ms. Davidson, argues that the removal of Native American sport images ls leading to the removal of Native Americans from popular culture and that the worst offenders are non-Native education officials who reject Tribal leaders pleading to keep Indian-oriented team names at their own schools on Tribal lands. She has a problem with that and so do I.
If the folks at Hate Watch read the story with any insight, I am sure they would agree that there is an argument even if they reach another conclusion.
3 weeks, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@172 Flyer Shanahan gave Snyder little choice, but the feud between the two most important employees in the company should never have gone that far without the owner intervening.
We have gone through six coaching changes with Snyder, which gets to your point -- the mismatch of carryover players to new coaches. Firing people is the worst solution. Thanks for commenting.
4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@jackthezombiekiller Hard to say how this will play out, but I am not there yet. It's also hard to respond when McCoy and Cousins have more wins than Griffin this year.
4 weeks, 1 day ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
How did you guys miss out on the trade for Harvin?
Wait. What? Oh. Well, never mind.
2 months ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/2014-articles/acting-cordial-talking-vikings-vs-bills-with-buffalo-wins.html
@dreadpirateroberts The coach said something similar. I gather the team was overly impressed by its good showing in Philadelphia.
2 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
You almost make this Spartans grad feel sorry for you. Almost.
I shall stifle the lol, though.
2 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://bloguin.com/thestudentsection/
South Park promoted Cousins to starter in place of Griffin. Perhaps he is not second tier. He is a pop culture star.
2 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://ultimatenyg.com/2014-articles/sept/redskins-preview.html
You guys never disappoint.
3 months ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/
@carlbrown12345 I cannot dispute your analysis. When Shanahan schemed an offense RG could run, we saw the read option, a lot of cut back runs by Morris, a playoff appearance and Griffin was the reason the team won. Gruden showed us a safe scheme. RG was not the reason the Redskins lost, but neither he nor the scheme led to a comeback. Just sayin'.
Which brings us to, "Be careful what you wish for. It might come true."
3 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@ReGinaJZuni Hello ReGina. This topic is about the trademark of a sports team. All comments from all parties are welcome. I also accept the All-American One Drop Rule as articulated by Thomas Jefferson and others, to wit, if you have any ancestry that is not European, then you are not Caucasian. You are whatever that one drop is.
I am satisfied that Mr, Yancey has as much NA ancestry as Ray Haltritter or Elizabeth Warren who both have made their thoughts plain. Is there a dispute with what Mark wrote in this story?
3 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@dreadpirateroberts Reader contributions are always welcome. My email is firstname.lastname@example.org. Send your story to me there. The preferred format is .doc.
I have been punching back since 2012. That is like bringing a squirt gun to a fire hose fight.So I hope you are taking the time to respond, responsibly, to blasts from the changers that are published through the media. The Washington Newspaper (see what I did there) does not publish balanced telling of this story, although they seem to think that they are. So, the more commentary in more places than here helps.
3 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
Posted because the topic was timely and mentioned Mark Sanchez instead of Kirk Cousins. Everybody, perhaps including RGIII, seems too anxious to trade Cousins. However, a team interested in acquiring a veteran quarterback would do it at the beginning of the league year in February so their man can start studying the playbook and work with the coaches by OTAs. 'Plug and play' works for PCs, not for quarterbacks acquired in the middle of training camp.
4 months ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@BrandonWing @firegecko Except that Redskins fans would never do that. "Redskins" is so revered a term that we only apply it to players on the team, or to fans of the team at a game when they are wearing a Redskins jersey. I am the 'Redskin' in any such conversation.
Redskins, the brand, is about football and only about football, never about real people. The word most used to slur Native Americans is "Indian." Used in a sentence, "The only good Indian...."
I am a Redskins fan. In your hypothetical case: 1. Walk into an Indian casino. 2. Look for a Native American worker because very few Native Americans work in Indian casinoes. 3. Call him by his or her name as shown on their name badge, because that's what people do. Why would expect otherwise unless you have bigoted, stereotypical views of Redskins fans? 4. Wait for their reaction that I expect will be, "How may I help you, sir." 5. Ask for chips because ... casino.
4 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://bloguin.com/thisgivensunday/
4 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/colin-cowherd-just-might-be-worse-than-skip-bayless.html
@SteveSmith15 Thank you for your comment. It was very informative.
The question is, How many people know this? If they are aware of Catlin, how many have viewed his work? (I will). The answer is few and fewer. You would not have had the opportunity to speak of this except that it revolves around an NFL team. Then it is around about the team and not really about the people, which is the point we make about sports team mascots.
If Daniel Snyder caved on this a year ago, Native American history and issues would have disappeared from popular conversation then.
4 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@aprilwalker14 I really do believe it had more to do with the $10.4 million owed to him this season than any other thing. Would have kept him at $6 million.
Gotta pinch them pennies, you know.
4 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@dreadpirateroberts It does not carry more weight, but the lengthy story in The Post (of course) will have wide circulation.
4 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@StudleyDudley131 I will allow that they are the exceptions that prove the rule.
5 months ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
There was a time you LOVED Chris Kluwe. Admit it.
But, (or butt) I question the propriety of using the word "asshole" in sensitive story like this one.
5 months ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/
@aprilwalker14 Guess I am a tad out of touch, April. What did he say?
@aprilwalker14 Amen, sister. Amen.
5 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@aprilwalker14 Always appreciate your comments, April.
@fgoodwin You might be older than I am! Thank you for the clarification and references.
The main point remains, however. G.P. Marshall hated seen LeBaron in a Cowboys uniform however that came to be. It partly explains his animus towards the Cowboys. Fans have bought into it since the 1960's, well before George Allen came to the Redskins and took the rivalry to another level.
5 months, 2 weeks ago on Redskins rivalry with Cowboys didn't start with George Allen
Sure. Listen to the Cowboy. Emmett is wrong about that anyway. The people whipped up in this hysteria would only see that suggestion as a half measure and bash Snyder even more. Neutrals would say, "If you change part of the name, why not all of it?" Pressure on the team would go up, not down. Just go count your rings, Emmett.
5 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thesportsdaily.net/emmitt-smith-on-redskins-name-change-drop-the-red-and-keep-the-skins/
@ImNotYourMascot I imply no such thing (duly enrolled in a federally recognized Native American Indian tribe in this country). I do not confuse registration with ancestry. I am satisfied that One Wolf is as authentically Native as Ray Halbritter.
Hog Heaven does not have tests of racial or registration purity before contributors or respondents may make a point.
More to the point is that I, as a Redskins fan and history buff, have described the origin of the word. My work was clinical. One Wolf's was eloquent. I need that to counter some of the canard published by Esquire.com and others.
If you can point out factual errors in the post about the source and meaning of "redskin" to counter what One Wolf wrote, I would love to read it here.
6 months ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@joebobbean And your response is exactly appropriate if you oppose the name.
@ImNotYourMascot And your point is...?
Wish I wrote this. Good points.
You do repeat one error often seen in this controversy, confusion in the use of the word "redskin" and "Redskins." One word is disputably a slur. The other is a brand of a football team. The word in the dictionary is "redskin." The dictionary says that word is sometimes used to disparage real people.
"The Redskins(r)" is a brand of football entertainment. It is not and has never been used to disparage real people. The brand is always presented with Capital R and is always plural. Spelling is how to tell the difference.
The word in the dictionary fell into such disuse in the 20th-Century, that the brand name "Redskins" was all most people saw in print and why it has come to mean a sports team and ONLY a sports team.
When people slurred Native Americans they used all the words in place that described them including the common variation of Indian (rhymes with "engine") and variations of the n-word, prairie n-word and red n-word.
Critics will say I am splitting hairs, but the difference is as enormous as "god" and "God." These are not the same word and, when properly used, are not interchangeable. The Redskins(r) is not interchangeable with redskin.
6 months, 1 week ago on True Lies and the Washington Redskins
@washingtonfan When one is speaking of the Washington Redskins football team, one says The Redskins. The Redskins are about football and only about football. When one is speaking of real people, one says Native American.
Sports fans get it that mascots reflect the team and not real people. A Native American Redskins fan told me that.
The word that may be a slur is "redskin." The brand is "The Redskins(r)." Trademark owners, not dictionaries, get to define the meaning of the brand when applied to their line of business. Spelling and punctuation are how to tell them apart. The difference is as meaningful as god and God. Spelled the same. Pronounced the same, but they are not the same word.
6 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
Those hog trough urinals were the best crowd movement feature at the Metrodome. I've visited many NFL stadiums with the conventional one-man-one-pot urinals. The back-up queue had the bladder-bursting potential of inhibiting timely passage of filtered beer. Hog troughs, however, allow more men to stand cheek to cheek, so to speak, in the best tradition of Man Rule No. 1: Eyes straight ahead or straight down.
I hope to see improved hog troughs in your billion dollar New Vikings Stadium (pending naming rights) and something similar for the women. Every time I see a line of women waiting to enter the Ladies Room, I think the Lord He made me a man.
6 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/2014-articles/buy-a-vikings-pot-to-piss-in.html
Super Bowl 1992. Good times!
7 months ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/
@dcunlimited "Robert" Sherman is clearly the product of incomplete editing. thanks for pointing it out.
7 months ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
Cousins was worth a fourth round pick to Cleveland and worth more than that to Washington just like Bruce Allen said long time ago. What's the story here? How is that a surprise?
From Cousins' viewpoint, he would have gone from a roster with RGIII to a roster with Brian Hoyer, his predecessor QB at Michigan State, and Johnny Manziel. What's the win for him?
Hoyer and Cousins have similar traits so the pairing might have worked if the Browns weren't able to snag Manziel. Now, if Browns had kept all three, Cousins would have dropped to third on the depth chart, because Manziel is probably the No. 1 guy no matter what the owner says. Or more likely, Hoyer or Cousins would have been released in September. You know it would have been Cousins.
7 months, 1 week ago on Conversation @ http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Report-Browns-tried-to-trade-for-Kirk-Cousins.html
u so funny
7 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://purplejesusdiaries.com/2014-articles/spielman-passes-on-johnny-manziel-because-hes-weak.html
High praise indeed coming from Clemons.
7 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://bloguin.com/thisgivensunday/2014-articles/blake-bortles-was-the-right-pick-for-the-jaguars.html
@dreadpirateroberts Um, no.
7 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/
@starchild053 Yeah but, you said "dallas." :-D
8 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/2014-articles/rich-tandler-on-rgiiis-offseason-play-this-year-vs-last-year.html
@starchild053 Nope. Why would you say that on a site called Redskins Hog Heaven????
@JaxJoe I read this and the theme from CHEERS popped in my head.
"Sometimes you wanna go
where everybody knows your name
and they are always glad you came.
You wanna be where you can see
our troubles are all the same.
You wanna be where
everybody knows your name."
Thank you for commenting.
8 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/2014-articles/redskins-players-put-full-court-press-on-jdax.html
@aprilwalker14 Perfect example: Redskins let LB Rob Jackson test the free agent market. They just resigned him. It's their new way of doing business.
You don't lose players to a fair deal. For both sides to know what's fair, the player has to test the market.
8 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/2014-articles/rich-tandler-redskins-sign-s-ryan-clark-to-one-year-deal.html
@Spiffo Not about Pinkston. It's about Ryan Clark and No. 36 in the video, St. Sean Taylor.
Oh, HTTR = Hail To The Redskins. #HTTR is one of the more popular hashes tweeted by Redskins fans.
8 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://redskinshogheaven.com/