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Re: #34 - Kiplinger ranked UNC and UVA #1 and #2. Collect all 3, SEC! :)
1 year, 11 months ago on SEC Headlines 1/3/2013
@buddha22 @John @Quidam65 @RonnyMexico You'd also have to figure in the effect that the ACC being eliminated as a competitor would have. If major conferences go from 5 to 4 then the 4 have more leverage in tv deals because they control more inventory, and get larger shares of the playoff/bowl pie too. In addition to access to two large states and the Charlotte and DC markets. That said, I'm really hoping against hope that somehow we end up w/ UVA and UNC in the SEC. I don't see why Duke would have to be tied to UNC and don't believe it's the case. Two weeks ago people were certain that UVA and UNC were joined at the hip (the oldest rivalry in the South and 4th most played in the country in football). It makes more sense to me that the SEC would go after the 2 flagship schools in the 2 remaining states of the south that the SEC doesn't have. I hope.
1 year, 12 months ago on Big Bang Theories: The Countdown To Super-Conferences (Part 2)
And a source with a major supplier saying what 1 ACC baseball coach says is perhaps the oddest source I've seen identified in the whole realignment drama. Kudos. :)
Wow. UVA/VT to the B1G?! Now that's something I have not heard.
@SpencerMoore @ThernUVA is only tied to VT in the sense that neither can be left homeless. But at this point, I don't think that's a problem. Either UVA or VT would be left in the ACC, a better place to be than the Big East even with defections, or - more likely - in the scenario where either team left the ACC the ACC would be collapsing and the other would be the only way for a conference to get into the Commonwealth, its large markets (and the DC market), recruiting grounds, etc. If UVA left, VT would have the SEC or B12 (prob not B1G). If VT left for SEC, UVA would have B1G (or worst case B12). I greatly prefer UVA in the SEC w/ UNC. Duke to the B1G (maybe w/ GT). And the B12 picking apart the rest and forming an Eastern Division. But as of right now, there are 2 options in the Commonwealth and multiple conferences would like to be in. So I don't think either would be held to the other.
Additionally, the current VA Governor is a UVA fan (unlike the former one). If UVA had an SEC offer and wanted to go, no amount of whining from Cousin Eddie would keep UVA in the ACC. But ultimately, the only way I see UVA in SEC is if the SEC wants a UNC/UVA pair. And I do think that a UVA/UNC pair is much better for the SEC than a VT/NCSt. pair.
2 years ago on You’ve Got Questions, We’ve Got Answers: From Why Your Search Is Taking So Long To SEC Expansion
Can't imagine SEC letting B1G move into Georgia (not that the SEC wants GT) and VA or NC without responding big. I think the SEC wants to be in VA and NC.
2 years ago on Slive On Expansion: “I Would Never Say Never”
Here's a question for John - an alternative sports history question that might shed some light on the future. In 2003, the ACC was expanding. The NC schools wanted Syracuse. UVA was pressured by VA politicians to twist the rest of the conference's arm and bring in VT so they wouldn't be left behind in the diminishing Big East.
If UVA had not done that and if VT had remained in the Big East - with a relatively small exit fee and without the SEC/ACC friendliness - would VT be in the SEC right now? I think so. I think if UVA hadn't saved VT and gotten it into the ACC that last year the SEC would have taken Texas A&M and its mirror image (cadet/aggie land grant school) VT. Mizzou would have been out and VT and TAMU would be crossover rivals w/ TAMU in the SEC East. Thoughts?
The one thing I don't get in this is IF the SEC would stop at 16 and IF it would have to take UNC/Duke as a combo, it seems likely to me that it would have known that when Mizzou was added. And I think that if the SEC had the decision it would prefer to be in VA (either UVA or VT) w/ the DC market than in Missouri. So why take Mizzou if that will limit you getting into VA? At the end of the day though, maybe the SEC just knows it won't be bullied and in the worst case scenario it can take NC St. So it can always announce 16 is its limit, it is taking VT and the first NC school to apply gets in.
Good point. Right now, I think what is holding the ACC together is the fact that the SEC doesn't want FSU and Clemson but FSU and Clemson aren't sure that will always be the case. And so they wait believing there is a chance. There is no doubt in my mind that the B12 would take a whole swath of the ACC as an Eastern Division. But that begins w/ FSU and FSU won't do that and then watch VT and NCSt. or UVA/UNC take "their" spots in the SEC. I think it will take Slive holding FSU's hand, looking them in the eye, and saying: "It's not going to happen. We're done" before they believe it and talk seriously with the B12.
2 years ago on Louisville To The ACC, But What’s That Aftershock Mean For The SEC?
I don't know. I just figure that if they were willing to double up in VA/NC they'd have already taken Clemson/FSU.
@VAHogBrown VT would go SEC unless the SEC got a UNC/UVA pair (at UNC's insistence). I don't see the SEC going past 16 so I think 1 from VA and NC is most likely.
Absolutely agree that UVA is better off in the SEC, but isn't everyone? :)
IF UVA/UNC go to SEC down the road, then VT might end up in a B12 Eastern Division w/ WV, FSU, Clemson, GT, Louisville, and some of the more western members. But this is obviously total speculation.
I'd much prefer UVA in the SEC, but I expect we'll drop the ball and end up left behind somehow. Littlepage is not much of a high stakes poker player.
What do you think of the Sporting News piece claiming that the SEC has been talking to UNC/Duke (as a combo) for 3 years? Hard for me to imagine the SEC, if it wants to stop at 16, would do that and leave VA and the DC market to the B1G (UVA) and B12 (VT).
I am (un)authorized to speak for UVA. Where do we sign?
2 years ago on As Folks Work To Figure Out The Big Ten’s Moves, It’s Time For The SEC To Focus In On Six Possible Expansion Partners
@WarHog38 I'm a Bama born and bred UVA grad. I would be absolutely thrilled to be in the SEC. And while in theory I'd prefer for it to be UVA and UNC, I agree with your assessment about UNC's entitlement and the Duke thing. Perhaps UNC and Duke to B1G, UVA and NC St. to SEC, VT, GT, FSU, Clemson, Pitt, Louisville to B12. If I were king...
Poor Wake. No idea how this works out well for them.
2 years ago on More Expansion? The SEC Should Just Leap To 20 Teams And Be Done With It
Any thoughts on the apparent impending implosion of the ACC? Whether it would have jumped now on its own, hard to imagine the SEC sitting still while UVA/UNC are courted by the B1G, FSU/Clem/VT are courted by B12, etc. I have to imagine that Slive is making (or answering) some calls to see where other ACC teams are right now w/ MD apparently on the way out.
2 years, 1 month ago on TV Times Finalized For Final This Weekend’s SEC Games