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@Matthew01970 @dgosine @amsterdam_sam Sorry if i sounded that way. What I would like to see is someone one from pagelines to clarify their plans and pricing page as it seems a bit vague on some of the information.

1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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@amsterdam_sam @dgosine I am not saying this is a racket, I am just a person who would like to learn more before i go deeper into pagelines.

The thing that is worrying me is it seems that I am the only one asking this question, which tells me most people do not care or they do not read.

1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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If someone from the sales dept. has a moment can they please answer this question. As I have asked it a couple of times?

I do like to read the fine print and ask question before I purchase something. From reading this statement

Does my site break if I stop paying? No! What happens is you lose access to your professional-only editing tools and effects, the ability to add and edit Professional sections, and a credit link will be subtly added back to your site.”

It would seem that one is only renting the software from pagelines unlike the previous versions I own of pagelines, if one owned the software why would they lose access to things they have paid for or why would a link back to pagelines be added?

I understand the yearly subscription model and have no problem if it was for services/support/options/updates/etc for software I own and I am all for that but it seems that the model is leasing/renting model. 

Now If i cancel my developer subscription in the future as I sold my business/client list to another person. All my clients would move directly to pagelines instead of the new company as the link to pagelines would be added to the website. Is this fair to any developer who works hard to build up a client list?

So do we own the pageline software like before  or rent it now?

1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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Thank you for the update and your hard work.

1 year, 4 months ago on Coming back online…

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@buddhatunes @Dannyh What do you mean pagelines does not remotely control things? If they can remove the editing tool remotely and add back the pagelines link would not count as remotely controlling?

1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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@Matthew01970@rbarn@dgosine @Calhoun Guys do not get me wrong I do not know if the software is rental or not. I would just like someone at pagelines to explain this point

1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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Dear Pagelines

I do like to read the fine print and ask question before I purchase something. From reading this statement

Does my site break if I stop paying? No! What happens is you lose access to your professional-only editing tools and effects, the ability to add and edit Professional sections, and a credit link will be subtly added back to your site.”

It would seem that one is only renting the software from pagelines unlike the previous versions I own of pagelines, if one owned the software why would they lose access to things they have paid for or why would a link back to pagelines be added?

I understand the yearly subscription model and have no problem if it was for services/support/options/updates/etc, but it seems that pagelines are trying to combine the subscription model with a leasing/renting model and this is a problem as it would seem just like other online web builders were one does not own anything. Can you please explain? 

1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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@mattmatt Bad Launch maybe as it might had been better to re-launch once they cleared up the hack. I think you might be wrong on the service side of things.

1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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@JaredBernstein Not sure that is a good question


1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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@etc@dgosineThe problem I have is that I like pagelines and been using the dev package for a few years now, but did not need the plus subscriptions so did not purchase it. 

 Now it seems that they are forcing us to pay for something we did not in the past and want to charge us more for it because we did not have the plus subscription, even though we are loyal users of the software.

 If i purchase the software, why do i need to keep paying for it to have the credit link removed or any of the other sites i build for clients. I should have the right to choose if I keep the link on it or not. I did buy the software did I not or am I renting it?

1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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@etc@knowtheoffers Well it seems that you do have to pay for the subscription if one want to remove the credit link or use it on unlimited websites.

At this moment it seems that the grandfathered packs is only if you had the plus subscription not if you had the dev kit. If there is a significantly reduced subscription costs I have not received any mail on it. 

1 year, 4 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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@MichaelDevaney is Unlimited Websites a feature?  if want No Link Credit how is that a feature? can you explain how these are feature?

 Would these not be part of the source code, hence we will have the rights to modify, or do we not?



1 year, 5 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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Guys I am in the same boat as you guys from the looks at it. This will cost way too much if I have to get the developer version just to manage my personal sites.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mine purchasing new updates every few years as everyone needs to make money. I have being doing that with my OS’s for years, but they all had support for a few number of years, what I mean is Windows XP Professional Mainstream Support End Date 4/14/2009 what is for pageline products (link please)? (http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3223)

Also how does one explain the large jump in pricing between frameworks and DMS? (using my past payment)

PlatformPro developer was 175 USD (one time)

PageLines Framework 2.0 dev kit was $198.50 USD (one time)

now DMS it’s around $288 / year.

Is there a way you can go back to the old pricing model, as in giving people the option to purchase what they need and not to force people into purchasing a subscription for things you might or might not need? The store is a great thing as I have used it to purchase plugin’s, in the past, but I had the option to do so.

The old plus subscription was 20 USD a month why is there three difference versions now of the plus subscription (10 USD, 20 USD and 30 USD) if DMS is open source?

Since DMS is open source (open source refers to a program in which the source code is available to the general public for use and/or modification from its original design.( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source) ) this means the community is free to do what we like with it, right? So is there a reason for us to even purchase a DMS developer subscription as we can modify everything DMS has to offer? 

1 year, 5 months ago on Your DMS awaits.

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 @Mama-Jen "page links to" is just a way to link pages to a link. I have disabled it but its still acting the same way.  I am playing around with the NavBar but doesnt always seem to work.

 

2 years ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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 @Mama-Jen I have checked and confirmed that the Blog does not have parent assigned to it. I know what you mean when you say its not fun to style. I built another site (50ccplus.com), using the mediawiki integration, and noticed that the same thing happening without the Simple CSS installed. The only plugin's installed are as follows (Jetpack by WordPress.com, Pagelines Customize, Pagelines Sections, and Page Links To). If one clicks on "Artist Bio" the "Blog" will stay highlighted. I am wondering if pagelines is the problem?

2 years ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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 @Mama-Jen Jen, i am sorry it seems that your code does work i just made an error when i entered it. So if one clicks on "Calendar" the "Blog" will not be highlighted. The new problem is that when one clicks on "Blog" it will not be highlighted.

2 years, 1 month ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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 @Mama-Jen "menu-item-41" would be the "Blog" menu item, which i have removed now. I only have the following code. Still not working. #menu-item-77 .main-nav li.current_page_parent a {background: #000000;}I have done the following, which is to remove the Custom menu "Calendar" which was pointed to the following "http://tsttokyo.com/events/month/" and create a page which linked to the same link. I have added that page into the menu as a page. Now that item is not even getting highlighted, only the blog is highlighted.I did have the following code#menu-item-100 .main-nav li.current_page_parent a {background: #000000;}and then removed it to see what would happen. Nothing changed. Jen, would you like to mail me as i feel really bad by taking up your comments. Dave

2 years, 1 month ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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 @Mama-Jen Sorry Jen, The site is back up now. I was testing things and forgot about it last nite. I did what you said and found the "calendar" was set to "menu-item-77"

but when i enter in the following nothing changed#menu-item-77 #menu-item-41 .main-nav li.current_page_parent a {background: black !important;}Did i do something wrong?

 

2 years, 1 month ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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 @Mama-Jen I have spoken to plugin author and it seems that there is no page-ID for them. If i do add a page-ID it could conflict with other auto generated ID’s. Which is also not good. When i test the plugin with the Twenty Eleven theme the "Blog" in the navbar does not get highlighted if i go tp "calendar" or "upcoming events'

 

2 years, 1 month ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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 @Mama-Jen Ok, i was mistaken in my first statement about them being child pages. The are neither parent or child, as they are rather virtual dynamic pages created by the plugin.

2 years, 1 month ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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 @Mama-Jen Nope, they do not show up under the pages. Menu. 

2 years, 1 month ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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 @Mama-Jen Hi Jen, I have been trying to do what you have asked, but i can not figure it out. As the event calendar pages are acting like a special page. Its hard to explain. If you have a test server maybe you can test it. If not i can let you use my server to see see the problem.Dave

2 years, 1 month ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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Dear Mama-Jen,

First thank you for making this plugin as it does make life easy.  I am having this problem with it as it seems that it will not play nice with the event calendar by modern tribes. I have been speaking to the guys at pagelines oh the support forums and was wondering if you could help.  http://www.pagelines.com/forum/topic/23273-blog-on-navbar-is-highlighted-when-another-navbar-item-is-selected/

Dave

2 years, 1 month ago on Simple CSS for PageLines Framework

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