Kalim Iqbal
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JM, I've asked this question before here and elsewhere but have not gotten a satisfactory answer - does Porsche consider the Kremer and Schuppan cars (among others) actual Porsches? Did the new chassis' get factory serial numbers?
Jonathan, wasn't Group B a legal class for circuit racing series' as well? I recall reading that the Ferrari 288 GTO and the Porsche 959/961 were built for Group B sportscar racing series that never took off. Any idea why this formula didn't work as a sub-category in the WSC under Group C, similar to GTE and P1 today?
Thanks for the article. Absolutely loved it.
Close the supermarkets alright. Phenomenal story and I do hope that all concerned do more to preserve the oval. Thanks again to Speedhunters for highlighting the old circuits.
Amazing. Thanks for sharing, Jonathon & Speedhunters!
That last photo is of Eau Rouge isn't it? Is that girl leaning over the support race pitlane wall?
Easily one of the best articles ever posted on Speedhunters. Fantastic!
@Larry Chen That's the AF Corse 458 driven by former Marussia F1 driver and current Pirelli F1 tyre-tester, Lucas Di Grassi. I believe 'A Bathing Ape' is a sponsor.
@speedhunters_dino But Karmann was building those cars and bodies-in-white under contract, which means for sure the Karmann-built cars are still VWs, Porsches etc.
I believe the Schuppan 962s are replicas, and therefore not real Porsches unless VS actually got Porsche permission to build them. Are you sure that Porsche agreed to let him build these cars with their badge on it?
@speedhunters_dino @sam Sam, I'm not sure your stance is fair.
Sometimes factories authorize racing teams to build 'factory' race cars for them that are considered authentic or 'the real deal'. A good example would be Prodrive, who built GT1 cars for both Ferrari and Aston Martin. Ferrari never gave them explicit support so the 550/575 Maranello GT1 cars are not seen as factory race-cars despite their successes. Sure, they're definitely Ferrari chassis, as they were based on the road-cars, but they weren't Ferrari GT1 cars, rather Prodrive GT1 cars.When, a few years later, Prodrive took on the Aston Martin DB9 road-car chassis/engine to create the DBR9, it was officially sanctioned by AM and the cars got new factory chassis codes if I recall correctly.
@speedhunters_dino Hi Dino. Yes, unless Porsche explicitly authorized Schuppan to manufacture a Porsche under license, this car will remain a Vern Schuppan 962C rather than a Porsche 962C.
There are plenty of examples of factories allowing teams to build their race-cars and giving them factory chassis numbers but in this case I am not sure that Porsche sanctioned this. What does the owner say about it?
Yep, it's a replica - a Vern Schuppan 962C so I am not sure why Speedhunters refers to it as a 'Porsche'. Sure, VS may have used some original Porsche race-car parts as well a 956 motor, but this is clearly not a Porsche chassis.