Spurs and Bling, it's a Cowgirl Thing!
@LawyerHandle You are right W, we do have the best legal system. America has gone down the drain including her justice system but, we are still the best. That's a fact. We have judges judging by Sharia law from the bench! OMG - and wanting to vote in Sharia as law of the land.
When I would appear for jury duty I have often had long discussions with the judge. I felt so strongly about certain things as well as being an American and serving. It was difficult to want to serve a system I no longer had faith in. I still wanted to serve my fellow Americans. It would tear me apart.
No doubt in my mind America is still the greatest country in the world and I've had cause to compare.
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@YankeePapa @jglow69 YP, I am here to tell ya, when I saw my first Oriental Jew you could have knocked me over with feather. I had no idea, Israel is the place to expands one's mind. Awesome.
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Quite a good read:
This time, Gaza fighting is 'proxy war' for entire Mideast
"This is unprecedented in
the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict," says CNN's Ali Younes, an
analyst who has covered the region for decades. "Most Arab states are
actively supporting Israel against the Palestinians -- and not even shy
about it or doing it discreetly."
It's a "joint
Arab-Israeli war consisting of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia against other
Arabs -- the Palestinians as represented by Hamas."
As the New York Times put it, "Arab leaders, viewing Hamas as worse than Israel, stay silent."
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@jglow69 It may be however, I've heard the reverse. I lived in an IDF hostel in Jaffa and thinking of one American who said he barely made it in his Hebrew was so iffy. Another is the middle son of my long time doctor and his mother is the Hebrew speaker in the family. He actually had to take an extension course before he got in.
I have a lot of admiration for David and those who would join the IDF without Hebrew. Takes guts. They told stories of some of the things that happened due to not understanding Hebrew in tight spots.
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@asimd @YankeePapa @SalimRashid Sir, with all due respect - are you nuts? Careless? Had Israel just gone in and stomped it would all be over now with less ppl on both sides killed. The shame is that it has to happen at all - and would not be happening were it not for Hamas (most certainly this time).
I can hardly bear to watch the news showing what is happening in Gaza - life is precious no matter whose it is. YP said it nicely - let Hamas stand up and be a martyr but, spare their families. Their culture toward women and children is despicable and be truthful to yourself at least on that one.
Israel keeps giving humanitarian cease fires and who waits only minutes to break them? Hamas. As terrible as results are put the blame where it belongs.
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@NobodyInParticular2 @YankeePapa @Minou_Demimonde @SalimRashid yes, this is a nifty lil counter isn't it. I find how it came about to be quite interesting.
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@Loren Schofield arghhhhh
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Good to hear from you, David as you've been in my prayers.
How amazing you even made it into the IDF with no Hebrew. I remember stories such as Mickey Marcus a US Col who volunteer and was a modern Aluf. He was an adviser to the Haganah for those who don't know the story but, sadly just after the cease fire at the end of the '48 war he was shot by a young sentry who knew no English and Marcus knew little Hebrew and couldn't give the password. How sad. So, David keep up the good work protecting Eretz Israel and we at SOFREP understand what's going on. Please stay in touch.
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@LawyerHandle W, never a waste of typing. There are those who were very close to CK who fiercely believe him.
Jim DeFelice, who is listed as a co-author of “American Sniper” with
Kyle but who testified he wrote the book based on interviews with Kyle
plus research, said he stood by what he wrote.
“I personally talked to
four people who were there [at the bar],” he said, “as well as two
people who’d spoken to others. I’ll continue to believe in Chris.”
19 hours, 51 minutes ago on The Truth About Jesse Ventura’s Navy SEAL Status
@leiber I'd say, congratulations Jesse.
That man is the one who is hard to believe. His chosen profession was wrestling which is fake fake and eventually politics - need I say more. He has said the most outlandish things against his country in public which are quoted somewhere in this thread. I would not say this man is credible.
There is always the chance that he didn't say "lose a few" but, that's what Chris heard. It's true, there is no winner in this tragedy.
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@RobbyRobinson1 @Txazz Marcus is CK's brother! He's also still got his widow and 2 children's back exactly like he would want another brother to do for his wife and children if necessary.
20 hours, 17 minutes ago on The Truth About Jesse Ventura’s Navy SEAL Status
@leiber A lie detector test should be done on Ventura - games over!
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@LawyerHandle what an unexpected thrill . . .
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@aleph That's interesting as I made a similar comment today - we don't know who is who where Palestinian civilians are. They have one room for their living and another for their weapons and digging tunnels. Who can know who agrees with Hamas and the truly innocent. However, the young children are innocent.
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@LawyerHandle Even the experts were shocked at the verdict. So many with all the details and basis to have an opinion - shocked.
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@LawyerHandle No fear W, not shooting the messenger. LOL I understand the law as you are presenting it. I worked for a Head Counsel but, it was IP law - a different animal. I just don't agree with your logic. I do appreciate your giving your opinion.
For me, it is as easy to believe CK's witnesses and less believable to believe Ventura's. period. You spoke not a word about how many drinks Ventura or his cohorts had - er I mean witnesses. And, I don't unerstand why you don't find at least some of CK's wittnesses credible. Debbie Lee testified it was not a belly up to the bar type deal. That's all. What's the matter with our guys - they were not all drunk.
I read in comments or a blog where a woman complained, oh the men will all vote for macho CK.
My dad used to tell me, do as I say, not as I do. Perhaps these 5 men (in particular) judged by what they would have done in those circumstances - lied - we don't have a clue, do we? There are too many facts that should have turned the tables. It is said and done unless the Kyles appeal.
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@LawyerHandle W, right, we know what this juror thought by the way they ruled. I keep saying that the facts do not back that up. An appeal would be a good thing in this case giving another jury a chance to perhaps ajudge differently. The jury was evidently biased to military perhaps? After all 5 men and 3 women voted for Ventura. That has a false ring to it - 5 men?
Are you kidding me? The impartial jury made their call on who was drunk/tipsy and who was sober? In a bar ????? Truth is the same drunk or sober. There were credible witnesses on Kyles side - are you saying the women were drunk as well? Or the Lt Cmdr? Ppl don't half pay attention in a crowded bar when sober. Just sayin'.
Perhaps the jury thought a sniper who officially killed 160 of the enemy would most certainly be filled with malice and a killer?
It is said and done for the moment but, something is definitely off. Yes, a full transcript would be costly.
I did read something about the knowledge of the jurors but, will have to find it again and not paraphrase it.
BTW where did you hear Jesse wasn't a drinker?
It is apparent I think the jury was biased and wrong plus Ventura having a hot show showman team of lawyers.
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@RobbyRobinson1 @Sir Drinksalot @Txazz That's interesting Rob and bet you can also tell some stories, especially with FEMA.
Katrina hit Aug 29th - would have to re-read the book for dates but, here's what his site says:
He went back, to Ramadi in
2006 (saw this is a few places)
1 day, 2 hours ago on The Truth About Jesse Ventura’s Navy SEAL Status
Not many comments on what Marcus thinks and posted. Chris is not here to defend himself but, his friends are.
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Ventura witnesses: scant info from his own Wikipedia (have read this way back when as well) There could be more but, I haven't found them.
I only see 3 witnesses for Ventura
- However, in a motion filed by Ventura, Bill DeWitt, a close friend of
Ventura and former SEAL who was present with him at the bar, suggested
that Ventura interacted with a few SEALs but was involved in no
confrontation with Kyle, and said that Kyle's claims were false.
DeWitt's wife also said she never witnessed any fight between Kyle and
Ventura. Dewitt said elsewhere that he is hard of hearing and even though he was in the vicinity of Ventura he could not hear what was being said.
McP's, was owned by a former Navy SEAL who was Ventura's cadre
instructor when in the military and present friend.Ventura's wife was last on the stand during trial only saying the SEALs were an important part of Ventura's life.
How do these witnesses compare to Kyle's is a good question. They were all there that night and all close friend's or married to Ventura. And, that counts for what???
Please read the Wiki yourself and see Ventura's statement he wrote on Facebook - yes we all know how Wiki is but, I've surmised where most of the input came from.
Will be looking forward to the op ed from REP soon as most certainly Brandon, et al. have access to more info from the community.
@Recon6 @YankeePapa @Minou_Demimonde @wmurch God bless Tyrone wherever he is - reward enough, going home and your lifelong gratitude, still telling of his courage and honor.
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@Allwet @JHR Ventura was whining that he had to pay his own legal fees while Taya had hers paid by the insurance. wahhh wahhh wahhh typical Ventura
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@LawyerHandle W, you're a lawyer - ck out MN court for transcript, official court record - will take a few bucks to get court transcript.
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@RobbyRobinson1 @BrentLochhead @LawyerHandle No fact that is Kyle was wrong, only your opinion Robby. Verdict shows jury was sympathetic to their ex-gov. There are too many facts that even little I have been able to find which negates Ventura's claims.
Hear me loud and clear, the issue for Mrs. Kyle is NOT money, it is the honor of her husband in memory by all, especially his legacy to his children.
@Sir Drinksalot @Txazz I always like to read the comments section. These were hurtful. It calls to all of us to consider what we say, especially in print.
Oh, I also read again where Bill Dibbs is hard of hearing and admitted that even though he was standing in the area where Ventura was that he couldn't hear anything of what was being said.
@RobbyRobinson1 @Txazz This was not my poll - it was a MN radio poll and their wording about cowards. I found it strange wording as well. However, I got the jist of what they meant - the "totally wrong" part.
Civil trials - please read the instructions to the jury document and you'll change your tune as to what had to be proven.
I didn't hear witness statements so I can't comment. There was enough diversity of ppl giving testimony who didn't even know Kyle or Ventura.
Personally I think the team representing Ventura was the best team standing. If you noted my comments elsewhere, searches are not pulling up recent articles on any statements by Ventura witnesses ??? His wife was last one who said, the SEALs were important to Ventura. Bill Dibbs a long time friend and also the McP's bar owner (who went thru training together). Way back I read where they said it did not happen. (all close long time friends of Ventura).
I suggest you read more about the 11 witnesses and who they were and what has been reported they testified to.
Like it or not Judges also are biased or have their preference in cases. Not to say Judge Kyle is/was however he did push to end the trial instead of letting it obviously go to mistrial. Our justice system is as broken as the gov't is.
@LawyerHandle W, you'll find this article legally interesting.
After threats of a hung jury plagued the courtroom, lawyers on both
sides agreed to accept a verdict if 8 of the jurors agreed as to the
result. Although it’s likely that the unjust enrichment portion of the
damages will be paid by publisher HarperCollins’ insurance policy,
Ventura’s attorneys are expected to go one step further by demanding
HarperCollins remove the disputed section from Kyle’s book.
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@leiber @BrentLochhead You are living in dreamland thinking up new stories it appears, leiber. Ridiculous JMO
@LawyerHandle W, I posted a few posts below what the stats are on before the book was published and after - no difference.
2 days, 6 hours ago on The Truth About Jesse Ventura’s Navy SEAL Status
Minnesota Radio Show Poll on Ventura's Win (CBS) - yes, you can vote - there was one in Dallas my friend saw that was 94% against Ventura.
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Here’s ‘Lone Survivor’ NAVY SEAL’s Response to Jesse Ventura’s Lawsuit of American Hero Chris Kyle
@YankeePapa You know what the ma'am brings to mind, YP. LOL A well known CA Senator. No to PC!
2 days, 21 hours ago on Race Relations in the Team Room
What a mess you are, Blake and you shared some great stuff. You generated some awesome stories from everyone. Loved them all. And, you owe us another story and you know which one I mean. Keep 'em coming. :)
Article by Prof Davis Schultz - Polls taken before and after Chris Kyle's book was published - no difference.
In the first poll 29% said "Favorable, "58% said "Unfavorable," and
13% said "Not sure." The poll was subject to a margin of error of
+/-2.9%. In the second poll 29% said "Favorable, "53% said
"Unfavorable," and 18% said "Not sure." The poll was subject to a margin
of error of +/-3.2%. There was no change in aggregate public opinion
regarding Ventura's favorable views between the time before Kyle's book
and several months afterwards. More importantly, the second poll reveals
a 5% decrease in Ventura's unfavorable views between the time before
Kyle's book and several months afterwards, along with a shift of opinion
away from unfavorable to undecided. Given the margins of error in the
two polls, it is either possible that: 1) Ventura's unfavorable views
decreased after Kyle’s book; or 2) there was no real change in public
opinion attitudes among Minnesotans regarding Ventura as a result of
These two polls therefore suggest that Kyle’s book
had no real aggregate impact in terms of damaging Ventura's reputation,
at least in Minnesota. Perhaps that was the case because largely
Minnesotans’ views on Ventura have largely been made up, or perhaps no
one is really paying attention to him anymore. Given that PPP no longer
asks about Ventura, that itself may speak to his irrelevance.
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University of Minnesota journalism professor Jane
Kirtley said Tuesday she was not surprised by the verdict, because the
longer deliberations went on, the more she thought Ventura had a chance.
also noted that the jury’s award was “a lot less than [Ventura] asked
for.” Ventura had sought from $5 million to $15 million.
Kirtley said the most interesting aspect was the
unusual dollar amount for unjust enrichment — down to the quarter. “They
were apparently troubled by what they thought was the exploitation of
Ventura,” she said.
media awaited the lawyers outside the federal courthouse in St. Paul,
Sam Goldsmith, a friend of the Venturas, delivered four medium Domino’s
pizzas. He said that the Ventura family asked him to order pizzas for
reporters, because, “You sat diligently here for two weeks. I hope the
guys enjoy it.”
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@LawyerHandle Take a look at this hot off the press - much more info:
Speaking for Chris Kyle’s defense team, attorney
John Borger said the verdict was disappointing and the team will
evaluate their legal options in the case. Borger said he called Chris
Kyle’s widow, Taya, with the news. “She was very surprised and very
upset,” he said.
said the $1.3 million part of the award is advisory under the federal
rules. He said Judge Kyle will take legal briefs from both sides and
decide how much is to be awarded.
said attorneys for the Kyle estate continued to believe that the 11
witnesses who testified on their side gave compelling.
Asked if agreeing to a split verdict was a mistake, he said, “That was a strategic call that seemed appropriate at the time.”
think it’s a strategic error,” said David Schultz, a professor of law
and political science at Hamline University in St. Paul. “I’m surprised
that the defense agreed to it.”
said the defense had nothing to lose with a hung jury. If the jury
couldn’t reach a verdict, Ventura would have had to pay to retry the
case. That could have cost him much more than $100,000 in additional
It's not like there were not other witnesses with high credibility:
Hamline law professor David Schultz had been named as possible expert
witness in the case (wonder which side). Schultz was ready to testify that in his opinion
Kyle’s book did not damage Ventura’s reputation.
In the end, Schultz never took the stand. He was a guest, however, on WCCO Sunday Morning.
Adding to the mystery of were the jury is in their deliberations is the
fact the judge has not revealed the three questions jurors have asked
him so far. Often, jury questions are made public immediately. The judge
says he will make those questions public after the verdict is in.
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@LawyerHandle We need an in depth investigation into the jury - sorry, but, you can't convince me there is not undue pressure, prejudice, intimidation, jury bribe or otherwise that made a difference here. That's even if Chris embellished his story. With an appeal, a change of location for the trial would be good. I would like to know how much information they have on SEAL honor and integrity or do they only know what they saw on TV when Jesse was Gov. You bet your sweet bippy he served only one term as he was going down the drain already and perhaps he didn't want his paper trail catching up with him. That is Ventura's long legacy.
Appreciate your taking these instructions apart for us, W.
@LawyerHandle Right, both sides agreed to change the parameters of the vote, in last minute negotiations. Both sides must have felt they had a chance to make that move.
@LawyerHandle Keep in mind MN Jesse has a fan base. Plus our military has fewer and fewer fans. Just sayin'
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@LawyerHandle Ok, W, here's the 22 page jury instructions:
CASE 0:12-cv-00472-RHK-JJK Document 362 Filed 07/22/14
@LawyerHandle In a non MSM news source look at this picture of Jesse V on today's date.
Ventura testified that his income as a television personality fell
sharply as job offers dried up in the wake of “American Sniper.” Borger (Kyle attny)
said Ventura’s career as an entertainer was in decline well before that. (that should have been proof enough)
@LawyerHandle For the moment this is all I find on instructions: U.S. District Judge Richard Kyle, who is not related to the author, told
jurors they weren’t charged with determining whether Ventura was
punched, but rather whether he was defamed by the remarks Kyle
attributed to him.
@LawyerHandle Please read article:
Witness by witness, defense attorneys on Tuesday continued to assemble a scenario that they hope will disprove
fabricated a story about punching out the former Minnesota governor at a bar in 2006.
Ventura is suing Kyle's estate and widow, Taya, claiming that the
late author's account of a confrontation in the 2012 memoir
"American Sniper" damaged Ventura's reputation.
Tuesday's witnesses at Ventura's defamation trial in U.S. District Court in St. Paul stitched together the scene at McP's Irish Pub in Coronado, Calif., on Oct. 12, 2006, where a group of
were attending a wake for
at the same time Ventura was attending a gathering of Navy underwater demolition team members.
more Minnesota Local - look at the photo of Jesse - bias - you'll note he said he "might" run for president in 2016 -
Nuff said, Out . . .
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Chris Kyle trial: Jesse Ventura wins $1.8 million in defamation case
Legal experts had said Ventura had to clear a high legal bar
to win, since as a public figure he had to prove "actual malice."
According to the jury instructions, Ventura had to prove with "clear and
convincing evidence" that Kyle either knew or believed what he wrote
was untrue, or that he harbored serious doubts about its truth. The jury
sent the judge a note Monday saying they didn't think they could reach a
unanimous verdict. He told them to keep trying.
After finding in favor of Ventura, the jury was also tasked
with awarding damages for any harm to his reputation, humiliation and
embarrassment. Jurors had to find that Ventura suffered an economic loss
as a direct result of Kyle's statements, or that Kyle used Ventura to
Neither Ventura nor Chris Kyle's widow, Taya Kyle, were in the courtroom for the verdict.
Read the rest to make your blood boil" (from Taya's home state)
"The verdict will tell the world Chris Kyle's story was a lie," Olsen said. (Ventura's lawyer)
@ColonelProp Rather apparent not this one. Very disappointed as I think the judge influenced the jury by his high esteem and compliments whether he meant to or not. Someone was intimidated by this last push.
I wonder if there is an appeal for the Kyles?
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Verdict coming in Ventura case
Jury expected back in U.S. District Court in St. Paul in 10 minutes.
The jury in the Jesse Ventury defamation case has reached a verdict and is due back in court about 1:15 p.m. Tuesday.