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@Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling @Lost Ones let's not underestimate thabo's ability to trash talk tony parker in his native tongue as well. it really raises thabo's annoyingness beyond just his wingspan and footspeed.
@OBoy @yarkmu @cfountain you need to get glasses then, oboy.
@cfountain @yarkmu andre miller is EXACTLY what reggie's form looks like.
watching andre miller shoot 3's is the complete opposite of what i feel whenever i see ray allen/steph shoot.
@OBoy i wouldn't mind keeping thabeet regardless. he's cheap, still semi young, and huge. we could move serge to the 5 full time against teams with smaller bigs, and then bring in thabeet more for teams like the pacers and grizz.
@cfountain @yarkmu for such an athletic guy, he barely jumps on his 3pters. i'm not sure how that relates to his shooting percentages (prob nothing), but i find it unusual to see a dude like him rocking a set shot.
@cfountain @yarkmu another ball handler/creator type is huge. also, if reggie can get his 3pt up will help space the floor too.
it's funny, as much crap as kevin martin gets for choking during the playoffs, i'd be ecstatic if any potential rookie shooters drafted approached his numbers next year. i doubt it'll happen.
if we're trying to build a bench with shooters, i wouldn't mind bringing martin back for an under market deal AND drafting another shooter or two so we'd have more options. hopefully they'll be better on defense though.
most importantly, we need to utilize whatever shooters we sign/draft better though. it's all pointless if they're going to waste away on the bench a la dequan cook.
@AIaska kmart is better than green on offense. he's way more versatile.
but the way we use kmart and the way the spurs use green makes them appear to be similar types ie spot up shooters. the spurs do a far better job of utilizing green's strengths and looking for him though.
@[coke head] @yarkmu @AlexR44 i think because people believe we're not that far off, or shouldn't be that far off given the talents of westbrook and durant, but are frustrated by perkins and other one way guys we have and how people are being used in general based on brooks' decisions.
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@[coke head] @yarkmu fair enough.
i think alot of that is just pent up frustration over perkins' performance, and brooks usage of players. the offense is changing and evolving, but perhaps not fast enough for some people's tastes.
i definitely agree that as long as kd and russ are here, this will always be a top 5 offense. and i think that they'll definitely get better as they age too--comparing them to the spurs is unfair because duncan, parker, and ginobili are masters at this point. but its hard not to look at the spurs and wonder if some of those systemic principles couldn't be done here with great effect.
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it's a chicken or egg kind of thing. kd and russ would be better served by having quality role players around them. but i think they'd also be helped by having more attention paid to swinging the ball and off the ball cutting.
@neo12 @yarkmu brooks was pretty hard on him with playing time though.
@[coke head] @yarkmu i agree. better passing bigs would definitely help.
@[coke head] @yarkmu it was better than previous seasons, i agree, but there's a significant gap in the incorporation of role players and the overall simplicity of our offense in comparison to a team like the spurs. or even miami.
to be fair, the spurs might have to be more sophisticated because their main three guys are less talented/older than our superstars, and because popovich is a great coach that commands more respect, etc.
i think some of it has to do with kd and russ maturing with their bbiq.
some of it also stems from our roster. the disadvantages of having perk on offense, and to a lesser degree thabo, who's a decent shooter, but can't be expected to be a regular contributor on offense besides one wide open 3 a game, and the other off balance lineups we run out.
i get that our offense was still tops despite my complaints, but that doesn't mean we couldn't have utilized our other guys and smoothed out the rougher edges of scoring more too. because the best teams in the playoffs can gameplan around trapping and limiting kd and russ. that puts undue pressure on our role guys to score in degrees that they weren't expected to in the regular season.
also, i found it interesting that a guy like kevin martin, was often underutilized on offense even though that was his forte. westbrook and durant are so aggressive in creating looks for themselves that having more organization and potentially a little less freelancing might've helped martin (and other role scorers) be more consistent.
@neo12 i bet he'd never be considered on our team because he doesn't have the best wingspan on defense. he'd also be less effective with us because our offense doesn't really maximize shooters like san antonio's does.
neal on our team would be like what dequan cook was--barely any minutes and underwhelming.
@MJOKC @yarkmu yeah at some point, excuses need to stop being made for guys that can't execute basic plays.
if we're going to be completely unbiased about our offense, statistically we're great because westbrook and durant are more talented than 99% of the league.
but in terms of shot creation for others, our two main guys still have alot to learn because all passes and assists aren't necessarily the same. the spurs system has turned tony parker, who traditionally wasn't the best at creating for others, into a legit threat with the pass because the role players know what his limitations are, and where to be.
that's harder for us because our offense is so free wheeling. so our other guys tend to stand around, or overload spots on the court. it's very disorganized. helping westbrook and durant with more structure would take more pressure off them, and also help our shooters.
we def need to upgrade the shooters though.
@nomad it goes hand in hand. balance on both ends.
@MJOKC @WestCrook @yarkmu @nomad @Air Bud me too. he's great at that. so we should play him more when we're playing those teams, but also with the understanding that if thabo's getting heavy minutes, then the other two guys playing with westbrook and durant need to be a bit more offensive capable than perkins and whoever else is in.