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@Dicharden were we not already a half game ahead? Did Clips play today?
2 years, 1 month ago on Thunder vs. Trail Blazers: Pregame Primer
Liggins plays with crazy heart.
@RRRWHATEVER Just saw that replay. funny as. looked like he got punched in the face
@justin_mia I fail to understand how westbrook consistently shoots more than durant. This is a plan???
@KellOne Because every Westbrick brings it up and drives or shoots it.
This is Westbricks dream game. All the shots he wants. But 5 on 5 with 10 WEstbricks... 65 to 64 both teams shooting 25% from the floor with 0 assists.
Have often thought that instead of trotting out a five man lineup, brooks should stagger the rookies... give pj3 a little time with first 5, reggie instead of westbrook.. and things like that so the bench gets practice with guys who know what they are doing. Thunder guards are also pretty bad at hitting rolling big men.. PJ3 runs around on offense sometimes open but doesn't really get the ball. Collison seems to be the only one they have faith in. Perk is a lost cause so I understand that.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars As a Swiss millionaire... I'm sure you can find a hot wife.
@Dicharden @MJOKC Oh i see. Well guess we will see what Liggins has. bad enough we dont have Serge. I want some PJ3....
@G.O.S. lol.. yup the problems of intl broadband.. in sydney
Why is Thabo not starting?
Missed the game due to a client on my saturday afternoon and mildly surprised to see Ibaka with 25 points... not bad.. Bout to watch it on Nba league pass but at least we are winning the games we are supposed to win I think. Thunder Up.
2 years, 3 months ago on OKC handles business against the Pistons, 105-94
@dream catcher @smallzinc @Skyline I don't think our offense has ever been great. Efficient yes, but not great. Isolation based and not the 3 pass or more variety. We just had more talent than other teams. To get to the next level, especially with less margin for error, we need to have a good offense and better quarterbacking. And the quarterback needs to know how to involve everyone and when to call his own number better imho.
2 years, 3 months ago on Durant and the Thunder slam the door on Chicago, 97-91
@RRRWHATEVER @EternalThunder Durant and westbrook got the royal jelly when they started. Agree with giving thabeet a chance.. but you don't know what you have until you give the rookies a chance.
Think RRRWhatever has the solution. durant situationally. I would love to see serge, PJ3 and durant on wings, westbrook and martin or thabo depending on lineups. durant will learn to hold his own.. and PJ3 is not small.. already has more weight and muscle than durant will ever have. Let him learn to take the LMA's and Bosh's.
@Skyline As Royce said.. his assists seemed like isolated events. Numbers sometimes don't tell the whole game. 5 - 19 at one point at end of 3 quarters does not scream great game. in 12 minutes, maynor who everyone will admit is limited had 3 assists and 10 points on 4 shots. give him 30 plus minutes even as an average replacement and thats 9 assists. So 12 in a whole game is not especially extraordinary and maynor played mostly with second unit. Not that exited bout that.
Should Ibaka become the full time starting center or not? Are wasting time with Perk or can he come good? is he still injured or is this as good as its gonna get? Kd and Russ don't like throwing it to him in the post so what alternatives do we have?
@duhsweetness Apart from not trying on defense which i already wrote about on the previous thread, on offense, russ does not probe or use change of pace. Looking at cp3 and lillard, they move around. use pics or drive. Stop check for passes to high post, skip passes or diagonal passes, the drive, options. I just don't see those from Russ and it frustrates me. Lillard just doesn't have a great team. Russ does, CP3 has a decent team too.
@duhsweetness At least someone else was watching Westbrook on defense as well.
@blueRAP Beatdown of spurs was scary.
2 years, 3 months ago on Thunder vs. Bulls: Pregame Primer
@dollarbillrussell @solutionz777 @OBoy All i ask is a decent shooting percentage. Then its justifiable. But not even getting that. Time will tell.
@PJthe3 bka ... @solutionz777 @OBoy Not every time especially early. At least 4 or 5 times, just driving at russ. the pick and roll came in more when luol deng got involved usually involving russ and kd and luol leaking out.
@Skyline @OBoy Jones III I said give lillard two or three years but as a traditional pick and roll pg, he is far ahead. And yes Russ rebounds, but watch every time he gets beaten or a shot goes up from a forward. turns his head, loses his man and sneaks to foul line or lower looking for the rebound. Rewind and watch the game. tradeoffs. and with kd initiating offense and bringing ball up from rebounding position, possibly not needed as much.
@OBoy Jones III Russ's defense today was terrible. Matador. Hinrich went round him like he was standing still. Robinson beat him. Just staying in front of his man was a problem and then it puts pressure on the defense because you have a free man coming at you. Watch the whole game and focus on Russ's defense. I did for the first time and wasn't impressed. Yes he is athletic, yes he is a freak. But so is Gerald Green. That doesn't make him good. Chris Paul is far less athletic.. but a far better smart and positional defender.
@ALL I WANT 4 MY BIRTHDAY IS A BIG BOOTY GUL @neo12 @justin_mia @OkcBaby with you on that one
@OBoy Jones III Damien Lillard has more classic pg skills than russ will ever have. He is still learning the league, but he can pass (the non obvious pass), he has change of pace.. he can actually use the pick and roll effectively.. watch him go round, slow down and make decisions that i have never seen Russ make. In 3 years and calling it now, he will be better than Russ. Unless Russ changes his style... he isn't getting any better. He will shoot us out of the playoffs. In terms of playmaking skils and involving the team, Lillard is better than Russ. He knows what he is doing as a pg.. when to call his number and when not to. And he is only 5 games into his career.
@EternalThunder Think the honey badger could have donated him a few more of his shots.
@OBoy Jones III @ALL I WANT 4 MY BIRTHDAY IS A BIG BOOTY GUL @Skyline Actually i agree with All I want. 12 assist mean nothing when your teammates are all shooting well, with maring 13 on 5 shots, maynot 10 on 4 shots, ibaka 22 on better percentages. any pg will rack up 8 assists just feeding kd, ibaka and martin for open jumpshots. thats two passes a quarter. his atrocious shooting, the fact that he doesn't probe the defense like a cp3, rondo, irving even robinson was moving and looking for the right play, has no idea what to do when goes below the three point line apart from dirve in one direction, go for degree of difficulty layup or pass out when cut off to a contested shot, his lack of change of pace, iq, using the pick and roll, definsive liability and yes I say liability. Check the number of times he got straight up beat and his man got to the free throw line and caused problems. Then he was beat at least 3 times in pick and roll esp with luol deng. Kd has to hedge, luol drops and bags the shot. He turns his head and loses his man the second ball goes low and drifts hoping for a rebound instead of knowing where his man is. He is not a good pg. 7 for 22 or something ridiculous na he was 5 for 20 before two late layups. Crunch time martin and Kd had the two man going. No Russ, We win. Not impressed. 12 assists mean nothing with our weapons. CP3 or Rondo would have 20.
@Bryson was about to mention that. -20. WHY SCOTTY? WHY? Thabeet was better. Can't we give PJ3 Perkings minutes, its not like we would be losing much. Westbrooks again an atrocious percentage saved by two layups late, and his defence is overrated. Hinrich and Robinson beat him continually and then he has no idea where his man is and drifts down looking for rebound. And Hinrick and Robinson move, probe, search actively for passes. Russ knows only screen and drive for attempted layup or drive, and fire out contested pass when cut off. Rondo or paus would have 20 assists easy with Kd and martin to pass to. Marting 13 on 5 shots, Maynor 20 on 4. Westbrook 16 on 22. Um pass more??????? shoot less? Maybe???
@OBoy Jones III Hilarious.
2 years, 3 months ago on Kevin Martin: Funny shot, serious scorer
@dream catcher Westbrook (if not jacking) martin pj3 kmart ibaka.
2 years, 3 months ago on Raptors vs. Thunder: Pregame Primer
References perk too subtly. I would have traded westbrook nad perk for all the houston goodies. (including martin and asik)
2 years, 3 months ago on Thunder Player Power Rankings: Humble beginnings
Some people scoffed as asik's value last time i wrote yesterday saying we could have a harden lin asik in our lineup plus young value and picks or even martin for westbrook. An interesting article... and asks the question why russ was not the one coming of the bench, or even using him as the two.
@Remify He loves the Celts... but does try to be objective. Find his article on the Harden trade, and the one prior when he said it made no sense not to pay Harden... pretty interesting reads. Everyone.. including Harden was blindsided by the decision.
@Remify skip the knicks.. don't care about them although melo is playing better. He had valid points with thunder. We didn't play like that last year. We would have blown out ATL easy. Nothing is coming easy so far. Even Portland was close till last quarter. And apart from SA, these teams are not high echelon teams. I don't know if we will make 50 games this year. Unless things change. Living in hope.
@fireBrooks @Old Man Game Was on this under a different name aussie something two years ago. couldnt be on last year due to work, but had two facebook forums. always said needed two guard front of harden and westbrook with westbrook giving up pretense of being pg and lettting harden make the decisions. Harden strong enough and big enough with good enough handle not to be bothered by pg's or sg's. and ibaka at center with small ball against miami. Convention.. and PErk... was not working...
2 years, 3 months ago on Monday Bolts - 11.5.12
@Mr_F @Crow @fireBrooks can we see a pj3, kd, ibaka, westbrook and martin lineup at any point? and see what lamb has? Don't think that kid is lacking for confidence.
As I said yesterday, realists and at least Royce Young can see that 1 for 3 is not great from Westbrook. Still waiting on him. Ibaka could improve but having to clean up Westbrooks defense and erase everyones mistakes takes time... And The numbers bear our the question as to why Thabo is starting at all. Interesting article in grantland this morning (aussie time) too... http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/41935/a-tale-of-two-offenses-the-surprising-knicks-and-the-slumping-thunder. I could see it, most people can. Question is what will the team do about it? Mayberry too.
Was in two other groups last year and saying the same thing. Had to play harden and Ibaka from start. We werent about to win with defense... so had to out gun them. Brooks made no adjustments. Play hard is not an adjustment.
2 years, 3 months ago on Hawks vs. Thunder: Pregame Primer
@senseandsenescence @Jooseppi @OBoy Jones III It has been four years. I would say that he could probably dial down the shooting and look at making other players better. not really seeing that. Anyone who has the ball in their hands that much will luck into five assists per game. Still see him missing the obvious passes, big men diving down the lane, choosing to take the threes that he is not hitting at a great percentage.. could live with him focusing on his midrange which was lethal after allstar break and working on his finishing... but those things are not happening. Ok. Lets give it 10 games and then look at the sample size. He can be a pg... but needs to change the mentality a bit. Also possibly realise his defensive capability. 3 stupid defensive fouls in second half against ATL.
2 years, 3 months ago on Defenses dooms the Thunder against Atlanta, 104-95
@Jooseppi @senseandsenescence @OBoy Jones III I must say that PErks 3 point and 5 rebound average so far are not wowing me....
@Jooseppi @senseandsenescence @OBoy Jones III Payton in year 4?
@Jooseppi @senseandsenescence @OBoy Jones III I think the compromise is having 2 lead guards if we are going to go with russ but scrap pretense of him being the point guard. We need a big guard with ball handling and passing capabilities. We had that in Harden and let him go. Lamb may be a solution, or send Kd back to the two and run martin, ibaka and anyone but Perk, or groom a lineup of westbrook, kd, ibaka, pj 3 who has crazy handles for his size, ibaka and sort our the center position. Thats the future.
@Jooseppi @senseandsenescence @OBoy Jones III Payton in prime? vs Russ now? Can russ really score much more? only room for development really is in assists. and that requires vision, willingness to pass and dedication to the craft. Which stats should be prioritised?
@senseandsenescence @Jooseppi @OBoy Jones III Thanks for that site btw.. will be checking it out a lot more....
@senseandsenescence @Jooseppi @OBoy Jones III But also over twice the usage rate.... double paytons numbers and payton kills him in assists and almost equal in points...
@OBoy Jones III @senseandsenescence @Jooseppi Monta is not a bad player... But he is a sg. Not a pg. Thats the question with Russ. Different criteria with sg's. But we are trying to shoehorn him into the pg position.
@Jooseppi that site is pretty cool. Can you do Stockton at year 2 and payton at year 2 versus Russ at year 4?
@Jooseppi @OBoy Jones III @senseandsenescence
Thats a little scary. I said it as a joke. Practically the same. Russ slightly higher PER. So do we truly have a pg or a sg masquerading as one?
@EternalThunder @kennygee90 @Jooseppi Lol. A taller Monta Ellis. Kobe is a bit of a reach.