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@Evermyrtle @RobertMyles I know as you do that anything I type or say online and possibly even 'other' places is monitored my phone is a cell so they intercept that as well. They know I am a Veteran and have seen the cruelty of war. We all have that same split second decision that must be made. some will choose to fight some to flight. I can't run that fast lol so I know my decision already. None of us are without sin and therefore our actions on this earth are how we will be ultimately judged. I do not cherish the thought of strive and bloodshed and truly wish there were an alternative other than enslavement. We are at a most crucial time in the History of America and of Mankind. I pray for peace but prepare for battle just as any good Christian must in these trying times
1 year, 10 months ago on Middle Class Adapting To State-Sponsored Serfdom While Pols Prosper
America is being systematically 'changed'. Changed from a nation of prosperity and hope to a nation subjugated and living in fear of the Government. Our Constitution is being trampled on daily, shredded and debased for all intents and purposes into just some document a bunch of 'old rich with dudes made up'. The Shining city on the Hill for all the world to look up to is being brought to it's knees and it's citizen's will soon be in the same chains those 'old rich white dudes' fought so valiantly to establish and shake off those same chains over 200 yrs. ago
1 year, 10 months ago on Obama Is Right: His System Worked
@Evermyrtle There is one very important thing to remember when it comes to Faith, god bless you that you do have such strong faith in God. Faith can move a Mountain, but you had better bring a Shovel". What this means to me is, Yes strong faith is an important part of Survival whether that w in the 1st Century or Now. I remember that the Bible is also full of Examples of The People having to Fight and yes Die for those belief's. I fear that the time of yet another Battle perhaps of Biblical proportion's is soon to be upon us. The only part of this that I fear is the amount of bloodshed that may have to happen with this. Stay Strong, stay Faithful, but also stay well prepared for the worst and pray for the best
Our Government has forgotten it's oath to the men and women that serve. thru an agreement with the Communist government of Viet Nam many POW and MIA were allowed to die in prison's and other places such as sent to Russia for Military information rather than to admit to the American Public that they had been sold out. I am spreading the word among my friends and fellow vet's here as we quietly work towards preparation for I believe the inevitable attacks and rounding up of people this Socialist Government who oppose it. Yes I know of the Fema 'Re-education', death camps that are being setup right under the people's noses. The day of these event's is drawing closer as we speak. As to my oath Freewill yes it was and is attached to my heart and soul never to the uniform I chose to wear. Our company motto was "Nothing Impossible" I was in an AHC Company Shark's and Dolphin's attached to the Americal Div.
1 year, 11 months ago on Words Don’t Matter, Actions Do
Yes freewill2 the court's have been stacked against us thru unconstitutional means. This is why it is so vital for all American's to stand up and join the fight to restore the Republic and our God Given right's that cannot be legislated away no matter how much our states and the Federal Gov't. believe they can. We must and will fight for our Cause is Just and freedom has always had to be fought for thru the courts or as many of us have on the battlefield. Remember the reason our founders created such a set of checks and balances thru our Constitution is because they had lived thru Tyranny and knew that power corrupt's, and absolute power corrupt's absolutely. Obama intends to destroy America and hand us over to be enslaved by the U.N. and it's New World Order.
@NAVSOG Thank you for the great information. Have joined Veteran Defenders of America as a life member and hope to be able to spread the 'right and proper' information about how unconstitutional our country has become in the last 100 yrs. We do indeed carry our Oath's for life as the Defense of our Constitution is sometimes a truly overtime fulltime job. Am happy to report that here in New York 40 of the 52 counties have voted to not enforce any unconstitutional gun laws passed by the Federal Gov't. and our own State Gov't. here in New York. Though it would appear we are 'winning' I know that the only lull's in battle are when reloading.
@NAVSOG Thank you for your service as well, I will indeed look up the group and be honored to be counted amonst the ranks of Veteran's who are still "on duty" as I surely will be till they lay me in the ground
@NAVSOG An interesting article indeed. Nullification isn't possible if a law is unconstitutional to begin with and the argument that all gun laws are unconstitutional I would believe is true. So long as states have enacted an balance of powers act. I have known that the law schools and supreme court have gone overboard against the Constitution I didn't realize the extent to which the Supreme Court had attempted to set itself up as an Oligarchy and therefore the 'supreme law of the land'. Thank you
First let me say Thank You from the bottom of my heart. I am a Viet Vet, Gun owner, SAF, NGAR, GOA Member and NRA Member. I with the recent massive attack's upon our liberties and Freedom's have joined the Oathkeeper's Tea Party(since2008) Tenther's and Constitutional Sheriff's. Am trying to help with the fight as much as possible. I live in New York and you are well aware of the unconstitutional action's of the rat in the Governor's mansion here. We fight and if need be WE FIGHT, I shall never serve on my knees. I know being in California you are surrounded with the liberal think and it certainly has to be difficult at best. United we Stand divided we are turned into sheeple.
@AZIke Every State in theUnion needs to pass laws to protect the Inalianable Right's of the Governed strting with protecting and preserving for all time the Second Amendment as it protects the rest of the bill of right's
@toppnotch64 @Evermyrtle I have neveer met an athiest in a fighting hole topnotch and i sure do not want you to be in one with me. Our strenght comes from our belief system the one our fore father's used as a guide to create the single most important and yes radical Governemtn the earth has ever seen a Constitutional Republic. I pray with you Evermyrtle as War is a very terrible thing, take that from one who has seen the evil side of humanity and at first I did indeed wonder that "if there is a God, why would he allow this?" I learned over time that i was looking at Man's world not God's. I pray everyday we may somehow avert this gathering storm even with the storm clouds becoming visible on the Horizon
1 year, 11 months ago on AK-47s, AR-15s, Police and You
Part of the Un Agenda 21, 'turning area's green or restoring natural habitat. Sounds nice huh. It means taking people out of the country ,small town USA disappear's the people get moved to the "Big City". Also disarming America by 2018 is a part of the UN Agenda. Now put theae 2 things together. Large number's of defensless victims to be and we all know what the next thing is. Crime Quadruples as gang's will use any weapon they can find. right now in Disarmed B ritian they are pushing legislation to eliminate certain types of common household cutlery, yeah ty slicing your steak with a plastic knife, that is if you manage to afford to buy a steak. Stand up or bow down America as we are the last bation of freedom left on Earth. We have to stop the gun grabber's in our own country then do the same to the UN,. that towwr of BabBle needs to come down along with it's really ugly sculpture
2 years ago on Gun Control Advocates Think The Second Amendment Is Up For Debate – It’s Not
@FlagMan Agreed 100% my friend, we need to take our country back by one county at a time if neccessary. Stand up at every meeting we can attend anywhere and shout loud and clear. NO WE CAN'TAFFORD THIS! Our children all the way to great grat grandchildren will be paying for what we already owe today. Obama has taken the Alinsky methed to the next highest level indeed, if Amnesty of any form is granted and we do not start stopping the flow of illegal's into this country, they will be living in a country that resembles Kenya.
2 years ago on Illegal Immigrants About To Push Grandma Off The Cliff
Obama is a Foreign POTUS and following the marching orders of the NOW and George soros. Martial law is just around the corner
2 years ago on Biden to Law Enforcement: You’ve Had No Better Friend Than Me
The willingness of the liberal elitist's to bow to such a horrific movement even with it's full intentions right out in the open is beyond believe. Their Koran or Quran openly states that tolerance of other religious beliefs is unaccepable and all non believer's(Infidel's) must' either be forced to convert and live as slaves or have their head's removed in a public display of brutality which is intended to make the decision to accept slavery more 'acceptable' America is truly becoming the land of the totally ignorant if this is what is to become of America.
2 years ago on Obama Reaches Out To A Culture Strangling A Free America
Running from a fight is not in my blood. That moving to Panama will only hasten your subjucation by the NWO as they will and do have records of any and all citizenship/residency applications.
2 years ago on AK-47s, AR-15s, Police and You
@notaNazi, You are falling for the liberal 'thought police' of the liberal side. Anything and everything to do with American Pride to them is Evil and must be put down. It is politically correct to bend,bow to immigrant desires and demands that they be allowed to live like they did in the country they fled from. That is not America. America is a melting pot,but it only works if the new immigrants are willing to assimilate into the American Ideal. That Ideal is hard work and learning about our Country and our tradition's while leaving the way of live you fled from behind. So yes the chanting of USA,USA could be interpretted as a insult to hispanic, Mexican's. But only because they want to bring the Mexico they fled from into America. We do not want nor wish to have that multicultural experiment that europe tried and is failing terribly which they have warned us of. We need new people to want tobe American's not Mexican American or African American that is all pc BS.
2 years ago on Thought Police Punish High-Schoolers For Their Patriotism
The Hispanic population had better wake up to the fact they are in the USA and not Mexico. If chanting USA at a rally or game is racist to them I would suggest you show the student's and their famly to way back to mexico. We need patriot's who believe in and love America not transformers who want to mirror the slum garbage pit they came from
2 years ago on Students Suspended for Chanting ‘USA! USA!’
After the Missouri Dem's showed their utter loss of reality connect Minnosota dem's mimicked it with their own assine proposal. Must be a thing umonst Dem libterds to see who can capture Murder Capital USA from Emmanuel's Chicago. As it is Califonikate got all pissed when super mario's demonic offspring returned to NY and pulled an 11:30 at night gun ban that is outragous to say the least. Now Califonikate dem's are pushing even more draconian laws on their long suffering population
2 years ago on Missouri Democrats Plan Gun Ban; Minnesota Follows Suit
This is the action i feared may start with the introduction of this iddiotic assault weapon ban with little hope other than getting Press and TV time. Now other institutions of mass idiocy called our houses of reps and senate's in states and city councils etc they are all playing the gun ban card just as obutthead always has that "race" card in his hand. Enough of this time to indeed stand up or we will surely be shot down. Tyrtanny is the end result of any such disarmament movements.
I am merely pointing out the fact that the liberal elitist's even at the state level are attepmting to force total disarmament upon those of us that believe in and uphold the Constistution as the Supreme Law of the Land. These wacked out demonrat's need to be removed from office and taken out for a public whipping. Maybe i am getting a bit paranoid over the Paranoia of the left, but this has got to cease or there will be a second Revolution
2 years ago on Words Don’t Matter, Actions Do
I just recieved an email from tjhe Tea party that Dmocrats in missouri just introduced a law to confiscate assault weapons 90 days after this bill takes effct you automatically become a criminal for non-compliance. So here we have a State legilature going way past obama's gun control to outright confiscation. To me this is the first shotfired in this war for our freedoms and our right's.
@char51 @EdieB5 DHS is up over 3 billion rounds, which is more than enough to shoot every amwrican 5 times and the ammo keeps coming all hollow point which is banned from war use. the ar 15's are M16A2's which have the selective fire to full auto. Yes they are planning to have a major uprising even if they have to make the first move, which they will
E-Verify is a very good means of determining whois a illegal and who is legal. I think we need to have Obama go thru an E-Verify process to se if he is here legally as well. Would certainly be interesting. Yes our unemployment is closer to a realistic number of around 20% and that is of legal Resident's. the last thing we need is an additional 15 to 25 million people putting an unsustainable amount of pressure to the social services network that was designed to be a hand up not as it is used today which is a hand out. We need to have included first and foremost in any amensty deal a strong border security. Every country in the world has stronger border controls than we do and even strongeer penalties for illegally entering the country. The plans that are proposed by obama are merely aploy to get millions more of dependent democrat's for 2014 and 2016 elections.
2 years ago on Obama's Push To Gain 11 Million New Voters
An IMpeachmnt process allows most of the damage that this illegal POTUS from Kenya. Last "known" Citizenship is Indonesia. The Dem's never even attempted to vette this clown they just fell in line behind him like lemmings to a pied piper. He needs to be Arrested by our United States Armed Forces before there is no such thing and it is replaced with a UN police force. How we get the General's and Admiral's to grow a pair and yes risk their career's I do not know. I just pray each day and night that soon they will see he has stepped way too far over the line and do their Constitutional Duty
If you take the time to read Saul alinsky's rules for Radical's the Piven-Cloven plan or the Communist manifesto starting with the 10 planks. there is after that 45 objectives. Take a look at that list and se how far we have truly fallen grom grace. Our country is in Grave danger of becoming a Socialist/Islamic state. We are the last line of Resistance to the UN's plans for a One World Order. A UN police force and total disarmement of all civilians worldwide. If you want an idea of what that may be like you need look no further than North Korea or Iran. Those of you that still want to support Dei Furer you can all raise your right arms in support of Gun Control. Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. The true American History is now but a small blip in the education system controlled by the Government. This is or atleast Was the Greatst Nation on Earth. A one of a kind form of Government. Agrand experiment in self goverenence that has stood the test of time for 236 yr's. There may not be many yr's left for ur Constitutional REpublic due to the very fact that most American's today have no clue as to what it say's, what the Declaration of indepence says, nothing. We go about our lives in a blissful semi comatose state induced by Big Government taking care of our "needs". We are responsible to take care of our own Needs. Agovernment big enough to give you everything, Is a govenment large enough to take everything away "Ronald Reagen"
Gun free zones are like magnets to those who wish to do harm to a large number of people for whatever reason their deranged mind may have come up with. We do as the NRA pointed out need to ceise in the creation of such idiocit zones and have compentent and capable teachers, administrators,janitor's taught the proper use of firearms and firearm safety. The news never covers a icident in which a citizen stopped a murder,rape, roberry etc just by the threat of the use of deadly force. When Criminal's and mentally unstable persons know that the intended victim may be armed they go elsewhere and no crime is committed. In states where Shall Carry Laws have been instituted crime has gone down, it is a plain and simple fact. High crime area's are cities that have major blocks to private ownership of firearms. just look at places like Chicago, New york city Washington DC etc. Yes more guns does equal less crime the sts's prove it, but don't eer expect the lame stream left liberal news to ever ackwoledge that fact
2 years, 2 months ago on I Got Sucked Into The Media Narrative--Did You?
@Kris Kristian Nice to find that someone else has done a bit of homework on dear sweet zillionaire George soros and how he aquired his thirst fro money by any means possible. the SOB would have sold his grandmother to the SS if he could. Obama's main supporter, but obama is a mere puppet a useful idiot in soros plan for world domination thru the UN and his dream of a New World Order. Follow's Hitler's footsteps, but has so far avoided his maniacal deranged drug induced schitsophenic actions. To me he is First person in my Cross Hairs as a means of returning America to it's once great leadership place in the world. I firmly believe our first step is to exit the UN and then send the UN occupants in search of a new place to practice their evil while we implode that damned tower of babble in lower Manhatten.
2 years, 3 months ago on Christian Persecution Rampant & Obama, Clinton and U.N. Remain Silent
Well hun before i get lifted up in some end times rapture i fully intend to use the sniper code on more than a few and the first is bho
I would certainly stop with trying the kindness approach as to them it is a sign of weakness, we need to stand united against any and all persecution especially what is happening here in our very own country
For Obama,Clinton and that despicable building in NYC the UN persecution of Christians is 'acceptable' but not of muslim's. We are in for a fight for our very way of life and obama,clinton and the un are making plans to make sure we cannot defend ourselfes.
@MaryCrum Yes Mary it would indeed be nice if enough American's awoke from their 4 yr slumber in obamination. While he promises them nirvana here on earth the Muslim's are slowly but surely moving into america and using 'stealth jihad' which includes this abomination of a so called central church. Christianity and islam do not mix as their whole program is to take over and destroy churches to build mosques over top of them. For a good example remember the ground zero mosque project. I can't say conclusively if obama is a muslim but he made a statement a few yrs back that went something like this " if it came down to a war between the western world and the muslim world he would have to side with the muslim's'. Seems it has gotten swept under the rug but i think it is still available on youtube. We principled Patriots and god loving christian's are going to have to hunker down, buy more ammo and guns and maybe even come up with some interesting means of hiding them when the bluehelmets of the UN come door to door looking for them. Obama's plan is to turn america into a 3rd world nation just borrow a copy of "dreams from my Father" from a liberal you may now. Good luck and God Bless
2 years, 3 months ago on Poll Confirms the Obvious: Obama Is a Socialist
That is such a misguided approach to appeasement of the islamic world. Though many profess to be moderate, there really is no room for such in their religion,movement,form of government that uses terror and treats all other's as infidel's. Even if you "convert" your looked down up as a lowlife scum as you will sacrifice your belief system in order to survive in slavery
@MaryCrum @Evermyrtle @Ohgeeze
Do not forget that there was also a massive Republican backlash rolling at that time and we Republican's put up probably one of the worst appeasers of rhe demonrats the RINO John McCain. I salute him for his service and the torture he endured in the notorious Hanoi Hilton, but his ship had left the dock a long time ago. We got what we asked for a change. I think i still have about a dollar twenty five in change in my pocket. I used to think that some of this political comment was like preaching to the choir. I know now we must reach out to our confuse friends and neighbor's that still think this abomination of a foreigner from Indonesia, non US Citizen and islamic socialist that is occupying our whitehouse and destroying our country in His image has to go we cannot afford, may not survive 4 more yrs of his treasonist actions and everyone in congress acting like that have been castrated by nancy pelosi for fear of being called RACIST if they challangfe any of obama's idea's. his idea of compromise is "I tell you want I want and you bend to MY DEMANDS" that is not compromise that is tyranny. Call email twitter tell every person you know that we cannot afford this illegal alien in our whitehouse any longer. Our Country's future depends on it
@AZDon I do not know thwe complete story of the mormon philosophy and the golden tablets that were purportedly found under a giant stone on the Joseph Smith Farm 4 miles from my present home. I do know that though their version of who and what god is may be different from the Catholic and the Protestant,Methodist,et al. What i do know is that in the end we all come down to one thing and that is we believe in a god who is true and pure. A god of goodness and forgiveness. The islamic version well I believe the story goes that mohamed spent something like 40 days in some cave with no food or water. Thr he met and spoke to Allah who commanded him to create an army to drive the christians from his lands. Well 40 days in a cave strved to death probably smoking some heavy duty shit from the poppy fields and i bet any one of us would be hulucinating and blabering like an idiot. They took the prohpets from chritianity and made them their's made Jesus christ a prophet only just as the jews have done,bit they did not set out to destroy the rest of the non christian world. So it comes down to a man of his word(a christian) or a man of many faces and lies(a Muslim) Which do you want for president
We may have obama on the ropes right now, but this is not the time to be celebrating. We need to make sure the knockout punch get's delivered on nov. 6th at the poles. We are already hearing reports of massive voter fraudgoing on in Ohio where the have bused in 45,000 Somali's to polling places, i didn't even know we had that many Somali's living here let alone LEGALLY. The U.N. is sending monitors into OUR Country to prevent Conservitive Group's from committing voter Fraud. The Election is being rigged and being done so with the Blessing of that shit tower of Babble in NYC. We need to get every and I mean every registered Independent,Republican,Waffling Democrat and we know we can count on the Tea Party. Generally there is less than 35% of the Registered to vote total in this country that Votes. This is What Brought Us OBAMA!! We need to get those other sit back and "oh my vote doesn't matter anyway" people out there. There are 3 Million NRA members But there are over 15 Million Gun Owners! WE need every body we can drive, drag, bus or any other means to get out and vote, this is the most important vote of our lives. It is one where we choose the direction of America for perhaps the next 100yr's. Do we want our Constitutional Republic, or do we want Marxist socialist islamic Form of government? We are already seeing activist judges bowing to sharia law and international law, we have judges that are muslims, we have congress members that are muslim, we have half of Dearborn Michigan under Sharia law control! Are we cowards and bow to islam or are we Patriot's and live by our Constitution in a free Country? It is time to choose and also time to prepare for the unthinkable
2 years, 4 months ago on Barack Obama Knows He's Toast
@ff_emt @BonnieBoyles @Nancibelle
Not a bad idea there ff_emt i am sure they have plenty of flies on the wall looking at what principiled patriots write in these comments as i once received a e mali stating that the Dept. of State had recieved my comment and was reviewing it. Never sent them one directly. Keep your powder dry, yours hearts strong and your aim true
@BarbPatton Obama did tell us from the very beginig he is a muslim and if i came down to the US or the muslim world he would side with the muslim's. all too many Americans have either forgotten that or somehow missed it or dismissed it as oh come on now he didnt say something like that. He is not only a muslim but also a indonesian citizen with absolutely no proof of a legal name change back to barrack hussein obama. It is believed he attended college on a fulbright scholarship which is reserved for foreign students under the name of barry soetero. I wish more people would do just 10 to 30 minutes of research on the internet tofind the truth about this imposter
We do have a Christian Conservitive running against Obama and us being shoved down that 'rabbit hole'. He may be a Mormon but that is still Chrisian and damn sure not a socialist and a Muslim. romney may not be everyone on the rights 'favorite choice', but really folks when was the last time the right had a candidate that was 'everyone's choice'. So we weather this out first and foremost get the muslim out of the whitehouse and into gitmo where a traitor belongs. We elect Republican's as many that are Constitutional tea party type republicans to congress. Stack the deck so to speak as well as we can. We can't take over the Republican party and turn it into the tea party in 1 or 2 elections. change takes time. It is sadly going to take more time to undo what obama has done in 4yrs than what can be undone in 4 yrs as he really shoved a big pile of crap down america's collective throats, sadly about half of us were actually happy that he did. We need to get the people that don't vote though registered, register those that are elegible to vote and get both of them to the polls. Less than 35% of the people eligable to vote actually do so, that is a very sad statement about the complacency htat has overtaken this country
2 years, 4 months ago on Poll Confirms the Obvious: Obama Is a Socialist
And eric077g because i'm a white nale with some guns if i get your suggestion correct. I am to go do what to the irs? go in and kill as many as i can? They are not the problem. the problem is the government and programs that hav e creat4ed a generation after generation of people that fell the governemnt is their daddy and they are "Entitled". You are not entitled to anything. You EARN IT.
2 years, 4 months ago on Is Post-Election Riot Threat Real?
I stand Proudly beside you Beno, honored to know that we will not go down alone or without a fight
I was in the Army as to my rank peon fits. Yes I do know military history and troops being ordered to fire on their own citizen's. I know it is easier for a high ranking to get away with disobeying an order. My hope is that in those higher ranks we still do have officer's that both understand their oath and stand by it and their personal conviction's as to right and wrong. We are entering a very troubling point in the history of both the world andour own country. I pray the day does not come that american forces are ordered to detain,arret and fire upon fellow american's under the guise of an illegal order by an illegal president. I do not wish nor propose firing upon our armd forces, i would much prefer it be the commie trained and owned blue helmetted bunch from the UN. Ther i have no qualms about pulling the trigger. does this brand me as a 'terrorist'? Probably in the eyes of the great deciever in the whitehouse. In the eyes of other patriot's i think not. Whatever the course that history will soon take I pray that we as American's can truly say we sved our republic from the tyanny of socialsm/marxism and sharia law imposed by muslim [comment has been edited].
Anyone who has been in the military, and i have. Knows that you may disobey an unlawful order. An unlawful order would be to go out and disarm,arrest and contain american Citizen's. Our Military's Mission does not include being used to kill or maim American's. I can't quote the entire oath nor the document on an unlawful order, but i do know that anyone inour military that follows such will be guilty of treason as their first oerder is to protect America from enemies both foreign and domestic. a domestic threat would be a POTUS that declares martiallaw and disbands congress and orders the military to disregard the bill of rights.
All of min are mil spec and target match grade, I also domy own relading and i reload hot. I would never buy cheap(chinese) inferior weaponry. Fortify and be aware
Crawl back in your hole obama troll
It is true that the bible does have many contridictory passages in it. this is due to the frailty of humankind. You say you are an aithiest and there is no god. Walk outside and look at the many wonders of this world. Then look to the sky and see how many stars tehre are and possible other planets like ours with life on them. This cannot be mere coincidence that all this exist's. Those that say there is no god are the firstto pray to god when digging down onto a foxhole to avoid being killed. Man's inhumanity to man is just that MAN. I am a combat veteran and i did lose my sight of god after witnessing much of the inhumanity up close. Then i found a god of my own believe. One who is all loving and see's all. god can do miricles,but he also needs the assistance of human's who will do as god wishes them. That is to destroy all evil in this world and breing harmony back into balance
Though they may well lose in the end, it is the 'begining' that is of utmost concern. There will be plenty of bloodshed and the stench of death may well fill the air. Whatever the banner they come under wether it be illuminati,lucifer,or islamic jihadist's. I inteed to be well prepared to be one that survives this battle for the heart and soul of the people of the world.
I do believe the threat's of both riots and assassination attempts do bear a strong resemblence tobeing more real thn manufactured. The Obama admin. is looking for any reason it can to impose matial law. The UN and the NWO movement inside it pushed by Billionaire Goerge Soros and supported by Hillary Clinton and Obama is very real. We are the last major block to this UN take over of the world and becoming a governing body run by petty pissant dictators that oppress their own people thru intimidation and since they are the only ones with the guns the people are forced to live in the imposed poverty.