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 @paulcarr  @AndrewHearstley Now I am tempted to lazy cop outs, honestly, because flipping through tons of tabs and database backend work while trying to get into isn't exactly conducive. 

 

So I'm gonna go focus on what I'm getting paid for instead of further confusing the info. 

 

As I originally said, the sentiment is right on - teaching is good, writing is good. I dislike getting tripped up in articles by the same problems they are pointing out, but hey.. what are you gonna do? It's the internet.

 

1 year, 9 months ago on Suddenly everyone wants New Yorker style content. Only one catch: Who is going to write it?

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 @paulcarr  @AndrewHearstley No, I did read. I really, really did. And my first comment was on the premise she sets out in her title and early paragraphs. After your comment, I have come around to the fact that I'm not really sure I understand it as I originally did - IE, I'm getting further confused and may be changing my mind. Which, I DO get to say, haha. It's just that people don't often actually change their minds in arguments on the internet, so this may be confusing in itself. 

 

Yes, every time I reread it it's getting fuzzier for me. Which does actually work for me with my original comment - that it seems to be complaining about a lack of good writing while not being the best writing itself.  I'm open to being wrong (I am fairly often, like many people) but I'm not really sure what I'm supposedly arguing against. Saying her basic premise isn't accurate (because it seems to be scattershot complaining) is different from saying I staunchly disagree with one stated point. 

 

Here's an example of a confusing item:"Within 10 years, the industry’s biggest challenge has been totally inverted. Before, we had all this talent and no one to pay for or read it. Now, it’s just the opposite."

 

If it's only been ten years, where did all that talent go? Were there mass killings I didn't hear about?

 

I seriously, honestly, don't understand. Maybe you can explain  the premise of the article to me in simpler terms. 

1 year, 9 months ago on Suddenly everyone wants New Yorker style content. Only one catch: Who is going to write it?

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 @paulcarr  @AndrewHearstley I did read that, but I admit to being kind of confused about exactly what this article is about. Specifically, it seems to posit that there's some kind of major problem here (the title implies that this is a lack of writers for long form articles.) However, as another commenter just noted, there are plenty of older writers still looking for work as well as the younger writers I'm talking about. So yes, I am confused. 

 

I didn't say that I disagree with her, mainly because I don't know what I'd be disagreeing WITH. It isn't a piece of straight reportage, but I honestly don't know what the opinion is either. 

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 @paulcarr  @AndrewHearstley My opinion is that they are ready for it, but people may be looking at the "experience" and shaking their heads. It's a classic problem in shifting industries. For example, in the tech world I've seen several job offers recently asking for years of experience in HTML5 (which has only been around since 2011.) 

 

Someone is going to have to take risks on "inexperienced" young writers. Surely not all the mentoring editors have died out after a ten year gap. 

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 @paulcarr  @AndrewHearstley My particular corner of the internet is aesthetics leaning, so these open tabs are in that particular direction: 

 

http://dragonauttt.blogspot.com/ - this page is mostly academic, though she's done more reportage style work.

 

http://www.artfagcity.com/2012/09/14/an-informal-survey-of-swag-the-sociology-of-hip-hop-in-the-micro-world-of-emerging-net-art/ - Jennifer Chan is very good and I'd love to see her given something weighty to tackle.

 

There's a lot to dig into, but my main point idea is that it's not a lack of young creators or even teachers, but still assignments. There are a lot of kids out there waiting for that big story or wanting to do one but not sure where to put it. They're currently doing small op eds, academic papers and so on, because there just isn't much market for training up through mid-level reporting.

 

Someone's going to take a chance on these "untrained" voices if they want to get major hits out of some eye turning long form article. There simply isn't the small town and event reportage to pay these people until they're "ready" - the people really interested in writing something interested aren't sitting around at small papers and working their way up the old fashioned way. But all that is the "old" problem she's mentioning. I don't get how it's suddenly changed - if editors are putting out word that they are interested in looking at long form writing samples I'm sure they're being hit with a deluge of submissions. 

 

 

 

 

 

1 year, 9 months ago on Suddenly everyone wants New Yorker style content. Only one catch: Who is going to write it?

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 @paulcarr  @AndrewHearstley The article itself is as pedantic. There are many excellent, young, well educated writers doing long form work on the internet. Many of them are not employed by large sites or even writing for money. It's out there.

 

I honestly don't find her basic premise to be accurate. 

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 @PeterCooper It's just a little frustrating to read something with a semi-complaining tone about lack of good writing while having to stumble over improperly placed commas. 

1 year, 9 months ago on Suddenly everyone wants New Yorker style content. Only one catch: Who is going to write it?

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 @knarf yeah, I hate to say it - with all the good sentiment here the grammar errors and punctuation problems really drive the original point home, huh?

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