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Regardless of your feelings surrounding the moral implications about such a rule, NCAA precedent shows that it would still be enforceable should the SEC go down that path.Even though scholarships are renewable on a year to year basis, when players leave the program, many schools choose to put restrictions on where that player can transfer precisely so they don’t have to face him again in direct competition.The NCAA also places restrictions on the player in the form of a forced suspended season when transferring to another D. 1 program.Maybe players will band together and initiate a class action suit against the governing body to change these rules but until those waters are tested in court, it’s still the rule of the land.In any case, at the end of the day, you can’t force a program to recruit and admit a player they don’t want on their team which is essentially what we’re talking about; member institutions agreeing to a rule change implemented at the conference level.
Also, kicking troublemakers off your team is one thing but to make the argument that Georgia’s games against LSU and Auburn would’ve been tougher had they not been facing their two starting QBs is a tough sell.
1 year ago on The SEC Needs A Rule Protecting Schools From Having To Face Players Booted For Disciplinary Reasons
Carter, what's with the hyperbole? Do you expect a rational response when you act like someone stole your cookie? Quite frankly, it's easily enforceable if set at the policy level by the league. It wouldn't be up to the dismissing school to "own" the outcome of the player, it would simply be up to the other member teams to not recruit and admit that dismissed player. It's odd that you hold no accountability for the player that initiated the trouble of their own volition while concurrently having no problem with the dismissing program being held at a competitive disadvantage for acting responsibly. Playing football on full scholarship at a major university is a privilege, not a right.
Nice article and I would lump this in with a number of items that need conference wide, uniform policy management. A couple comments:
1. My guess is that DGB won't want to sit out a year and will go the Div 2 route so he can move straight to the NFL after another year.
2. Maybe I'm misremembering but I thought Marshall was booted for stealing from a teammates' locker? In any case, not only did it bite us in the rear with that miracle loss against Auburn but also contributed to our dreadful secondary last season.
By the way, full disclosure, I work for a company that treats prostate cancer so I see how this disease impacts a lot of lives.
1 year, 6 months ago on Oregon To Don Pink This Weekend; Good Cause, Over-The-Top Execution
That's an excellent point. Let's spread the cancer awareness love around a little bit. If more men were aware of the importance of prostate screenings when you hit that magic age, you could potentially save a lot of lives. The pink ribbon, while a very worthy cause, is already in your face every time you turn around.
To be fair, just about anyone involved in politics (with the possible exception of Clinton) is going to have at least half the country against them. Not just for ideological reasons but because politicians (and their staff members) have about as much credibility as the love child of a used car salesman and a personal injury lawyer. I agree though that this pick is likely designed to add "gravitas" to the committee and nothing more. I don't know how difficult it would be to ensure appropriate regional and professional representation but defining rules so that everyone is given a fair shake sounds like a major pain in the rear. Hopefully, this is just the next evolutionary step towards a FCS style playoff system.
1 year, 6 months ago on Condi On The Committee? Ex-Auburn Coach Dye Not A Fan… And He’s Right
1 year, 7 months ago on Gottlieb Pens A Must Read Column On A&M’s Manziel And The Myth Of The Tortured Athlete
Sorry, see reply above. Something went wonky on my phone when I posted.
1 year, 7 months ago on Spurrier Warned Richt Not To Take The Georgia Job
Not Spurrier but the defensive assistants shouldn't be buying any green bananas if it were up to fringe section of their fanbase. You'll find this everywhere there's been success: UF, Bama, Auburn, LSU. Heck, people in Baton Rouge were trying to run Miles out if town on a rail one season removed from a national title.
Granted, I haven't been following this story closely but I can't imagine why anyone would make out Herbstreit and Musberger to be the goofballs in this situation. To me, Eminem just comes across as a disinterested and possibly stoned idiot.
1 year, 7 months ago on That Weird Eminem Interview On ABC? Don’t Blame The Announcers
Hate to break it to you but every program that experiences consistent success has irrational expectations. Just look at the recent behavior of SC fans after nearly hundred years of general mediocrity.
1 year, 8 months ago on New Study Finds Georgia Has The SEC’s Best Fans, MSU The Worst
I think what you've listed are all contributing factors but there also seems to be something of a malaise surrounding the Gator fanbase currently. We saw it in earnest in their BCS bowl against Louisville and it still seems to be hanging around. I'm not sure if it's the lack of a consistent offense or if there's something about Muschamp that not everyone is buying yet but something is going on. It could also just be a hangover from the recent golden era of Tebow and Meyer.
1 year, 9 months ago on Coming Off An 11-Win Season, Florida’s Swamp Still Hasn’t Sold Out
Happened to catch a new house flipping show on HGTV recently and lo and behold, the head contractor was none other than Mr. Robert Van Winkle himself. Apparently, he does good work.
At his current rate, in ten years, Manziel's TV appearances may be limited to episodes of Cops.
1 year, 9 months ago on A&M’s Manziel Fast Becoming The New Vanilla Ice
Wasn't it Clowney who personally threatened to seriously injure Zach Mettenburg before the LSU / SC game last year? If he was grinning then, it was probably a scary one.
1 year, 9 months ago on Richt Laughs Off Clowney Comments: “I’d Be Scared Of Him”
On second thought, I might also flip-flop Muschamp and Franklin. I just think that you've got to give extra bonus points for what he's done at Vandy. Even with an 11 win season, no one knows yet if Muschamp can field a quality offense.
1 year, 9 months ago on Ranking The SEC’s Coaches From Saban To Stoops
I would generally agree with this list with the possible exception of Pinkel. Yes, he brought Mizzou back to respectability and yes, he's had some nice seasons. However, his body of work is predicated on competing in a very weak Big 12 North division and his squad often looked like they just didn't know how to adapt to playing bigger, stronger, faster defenses last year. I think he deserves more time to get the ship righted but should be a couple slots down farther on the list.
When have you ever know Spurrier to drop anything just because people disagree with him? He rarely follows what you might consider to be conventional discourse.
1 year, 9 months ago on Fearless Predictions: 5 Things That Will Happen In The SEC This Fall
Haven't noticed Spurrier talking strength of schedule this year. How convenient.
I'm with you on every one except for #5. At this point, I'm simply not going to pick against the SEC until after the streak is over. Also, I think the relative weakness of the B1G schedule will work against OSU come crunch time. He may be running an SEC style program but his squad won't be toughened by playing an SEC caliber slate of games.
1 year, 9 months ago on Fearless Predictions: 5 Things That Will Not Happen In The SEC This Fall
When you have the Heisman trophy winner and most electric player in football, it tends to skew the data. We'll have a better idea of A&M's scheme next year.
1 year, 9 months ago on Kingsbury’s Message To SEC Coaches Worried About Pace Of Game: “Stop Recruiting These Beasts Up Front”
Ironically, he's asking for statistical evidence to back up the claim for increased injuries but he's framing his purely speculative opinion of SEC defenses vs. B12 offenses as "just a fact".
What does a Quality Control coach do exactly? Run the drug test lab work?
1 year, 11 months ago on UF Hires Ex-QB Leak As Quality Control Coach
Considering his pathetic production while OC at Florida, you'd have to classify this as an extremely self-deprecating comment.
1 year, 11 months ago on Kansas’ Weis Backs Stoops’ Criticism Of SEC
Also overlooked is the fact that the scaled UF players are portrayed as giants in that pic.I believe that Hagrid was a Gator OT back in the 70’s.
2 years ago on UF’s Pease Turns To Harry Potter To Push Gator QBs
I like the uniforms, don't care much for the new logo. It looks like the old Red Dog beer label.
2 years ago on UGA Unveils New Uniforms And New Secondary Logo
He's not exactly endearing himself to the rest of the conference either by implying that the SEC only has one quality team. You can pretty much guarantee that every conference opponent will have the Arky game circled on their calendar this Fall.
2 years ago on Bielema On Saban: “Can’t Compare.” On Previous Staff: “Emphasis On Pretty Boys”
@TBfromWoolly It's more than a little ironic that you're condescendingly telling someone else to crack a book "bro" when you're applying a term reserved for our judicial system to the administration of a football team. The HC or AD can kick players out of the program at their discretion for behaviors they deem detrimental to their purpose and mission and out of line with their values. Confessions of a beating and robbery would be sufficient for these purposes should they choose to follow through.
2 years, 2 months ago on Alabama Suspends Four Arrested Players
That really is odd (can't spell Dodds without it!). I'd be shocked if a (non-Spurrier) coach said that let alone the AD. Geez, be a professional and represent your school with some dignity.
2 years, 2 months ago on Texas A.D. Dodds Takes A Shot At Mizzou
I think I'm starting to see why he would want to leave the state in the first place.
2 years, 2 months ago on RB Collins Signs, But Mom Hires A Lawyer
@UFL1138 That's the way it looks. Much to my chagrin in a year when the state of Georgia produced a plethora of five star talent.
2 years, 2 months ago on Team Updates: SEC East
This has been expected for awhile but it's still somewhat surprising given a young Yeldon and two other highly regarded RB recruits (Henry and Jones) already committed. Going to be a crowded backfield.
2 years, 2 months ago on RB Kamara Picks Alabama
Just FYI in case you're reading Mrs. Collins; Georgia is a whole lot closer to home than Arkansas.
2 years, 2 months ago on Hogs RB Commit Cancels Announcement Ceremony
This one, with Tunsil, hurts. Another swing and a miss. Obviously, losing Rodney Garner in the middle of recruiting season worked to Auburn's benefit.
2 years, 2 months ago on DT Adams Picks Auburn Over Dawgs, Gators And Tide
It’s understandable. That’s a tough name to spell.
2 years, 2 months ago on Top Commit Nkemdiche Having To Fill Out Paperwork Again
That’s a pretty consistent refrain among Georgia fans as well. We produce large quantities of quality talent every year but lose much of it out of state. Obviously, Georgia can’t sign them all and Georgia Tech tends to shoot itself in the foot but I would also assert that the state’s geographically central position as well as the sheer number of FBS level recruits per capita bring more resources and attention from other programs than almost any other Southern state save Florida and now probably Texas. From a value perspective, even though Alabama or Mississippi does produce top talent, would a program be better off sending scouts to a game in Dothan, AL where they might find one player or Statesboro, GA where there could be 2 or 3 potential recruits lining up?
2 years, 2 months ago on Keep Your Eyes On The Battleground States On Signing Day
Interesting that after 17 years working for the same HC, he tired of his job after one full season of lining up against SEC defenses. Point well taken also that you don’t go into this level of coaching if you want to have more time with the family. He should explore consulting or coaching at the High School level if that’s his goal.
2 years, 2 months ago on Ex-Mizzou O-Coordinator Yost: “It Got To A Point Where I Didn’t Love My Job”
@John at MrSEC Ha, thanks for the compliment but I’ll probably keep my day job. When I read that initially, I was hoping that you had an inside scoop on Tunsil’s real intentions.
2 years, 2 months ago on SEC Recruiting Battles For The Biggest Names Rage On
I’ve been reading elsewhere that Tunsil to Ole Miss is almost a foregone conclusion. Georgia will still have a quality, well balanced class but they appear to be finishing with a clunk. Adams, Foster, and Alvin Kamara all appear to be leaning elsewhere.
I guess Bellamy is still “high” on Oregon’s wish list. Coincidentally, the player gift bags were stocked full of Cool Ranch Doritos.
2 years, 2 months ago on SEC Prospect Tweets Photo Of Self, Girls, Bong
I like his confidence but you've got to learn to walk before you can run. Don't care for a high schooler talking about being a top 10 NFL pick.
2 years, 2 months ago on Bellamy Still Committed To FSU; UGA His New Leader
If I'm not mistaken, Alabama was forced by the state legislature to play Auburn at some point in their history. I think that's why Auburn has a longer history of playing Georgia than they do the Tide.
2 years, 2 months ago on Texas Lawmaker Pushes For Longhorns, Aggies To Renew Series
@JamesKeith Geez, who pissed in your Cheerios? Regarding the schedule, if Georgia has any kind of contractual authority to veto changes, then I completely agree that it would make zero sense to give yourself a short week before South Carolina.
2 years, 3 months ago on Swinney Says UGA-Clemson Game Could Shift To A Monday; But That's Not Likely
@alamoaggie08 I don't believe that'd be the case. I think if you're accepted as a student, regardless of your athletic status, your acceptance is final. I can't envision a scenario where the registrars office would rescind an invitation to enroll because the player won't be on the team in the Fall. My guess is the impact would be financial with the player and his family having to bear the full burden of attending classes and living on campus for the next year. To me, that's an unfair expectation in general although in this case, it appears that the player had plenty of advance notice so that does mitigate it somewhat.
2 years, 3 months ago on Get Ready For Complaints: Bama Switches Recruit’s Scholarship To Grayshirt
I think I know the answer to this but just to clarify, if a player is grayshirted, he's personally responsible for paying full board and tuition his freshman year in college, correct?
@viciousdawg Yeah, but I view that as an aberration in an otherwise impressive career. Auburn was a toxic environment last season. I don't think 1985 Ditka could've made a difference.
2 years, 3 months ago on Reports: Eagles Looking At UGA's Grantham, UF's Quinn For D-Coordinator Slot
Can’t blame him if he’s interested because those opportunities don’t come along very often but that would be devastating for our recruiting class this close to signing day. Florida could probably weather it better because Muschamp’s a defensive minded guy to start with but Grantham is the face of the program on that side of the ball. If he leaves, I wonder if anyone has Van Gorder on speed dial?
@Fayettechill14 The comments may or may not have had some degree of accuracy but they were still inappropriate in the context of the interview. Stoops was asked about the Cotton Bowl loss and took it upon himself to talk trash about the kid regarding issues unrelated to the game. When said kid just kicked your butt, it's going to come across as you being a sore loser.
2 years, 3 months ago on “Out Of Jail” And “Off Twitter”: OU DC Mike Stoops Offers Advice To Johnny Manziel, Then Apologizes
I fully remember Rainey's indefinite suspension lifted just in time to play Georgia. I'm guessing that Urban was also afraid of getting caught helpless under a pile and having his eyes gouged out by Brandon Spikes.
2 years, 3 months ago on Ex-Gator Rainey Proves That Discipline Isn't A Bad Thing
@Tired of waiting Judging by the number of comments posted, your opinion seems to be in the minority.
2 years, 3 months ago on MrSEC.com Commitment Comparator – 1/10/13