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i bet they make the playoffs. they arent great, but they're solid. we made them look terrible by just playing together.
1 year, 4 months ago on OKC rolls the Raptors, 108-88
i wonder if the coach realizes that when you take perkins out of the game, and leave the rest of the starters in, they play better. Quicker rotations, and better intensity. Then he took out ibaka, instead of sefalosha, and we made a huge run on them. that happened in the 1st and 3rd quarters. The substitution pattern was the best i have seen maybe ever. I don't think it was a coincidence we suffocated a very good raptors team like that. And it seemed as if Westbrook was conciously looking to get other players involved instead of forcing a shot in transition. Exactly what we need from him. If we play the right way, we are so talented that we will get on a roll against anybody. We just can't afford those wasted possessions against the elite teams, and we can't afford those bad substitution patters where we have a bad lineup in and the other team comes back
harden is overrated. can't play defense, can't go left. he was the third option for the thunder. i dont think he will do that much better for houston, and he will be a lot less efficient. He's not good enough to be the man for a team, and I'm glad we didn't overpay for him. K Martin can score, he's been hurt, but if he's healthy, he is just as good or better than Harden. Does Martin create as well, no, but Harden can't create when he gets defended really well, so we couldn't depend on Harden in the crunch and we should bend over backwards for him? I'm glad we traded him, only problem is, we are thin in the middle. Hopefully Daniel Orton will be brought back up from the d-league, we need a big body
1 year, 4 months ago on Deal the Beard: What just happened?
@f5alcon sure, we are the most athletic team in the league and we are incredible in the open court. The fastest team in transition, we are unbelievable when you get westbrook durant and ibaka running the floor. But how are we when the game slows down? we don't get good shots, and we don't move the ball. Thats a fact. If we just are minimally better in the half court, we could probably beat anyone in the league. Our halfcourt offense is terrible, i don't think anyone would disagree with that
1 year, 5 months ago on What are these ‘challenges’ the Thunder face?
the lakers, on paper are better than the thunder right now. unfortunatley, i don't think our coach will get the most out of our team. the reason we won last year, we were more talented than the other teams. the only team that could matchup with us athletically, we beat them. the thunder is not above losing in the second round to the right team. (Clippers, Spurs, or Lakers) we will have to meet one of those, most likely. The thunder still don't play well together. regardless if we keep Harden or not, we need to play better offensively, and we don't do that now. Sefalosha still is just standing in the corner most of the time, and all we do is run that freethrow line extended play for durant. We need continuity, and even if our post players can't post up that well, we could still run offense through them. Let our guards rub off of them, and cross screen more. If we excecute better, we could beat anyone in the league
@okcprophetic--i think perry jones could be that guy to backup durant, but that would mean Brooks needs to step up his coaching, and get us playing better together. Don't know if that will happen. I also think if they continue to put Harden in so early in the game, then Sefalosha could backup Durant also, get him more minutes
@Jooseppi Everybody will see, Curry has been hurt, but that is a part of the game and anyone can get hurt at anytime. Is Curry a better shooter than Harden? Yes. He is a starting pg in the league, and yes he is in the top half of pg's and there are a lot of good ones. Curry can also play the off guard, he moves off the ball better than Harden, better defense (stays in between his man and the rim), better ball handler, knows the game better. Only thing Harden has on Curry is a better slasher. And Curry is a much better pressure player, he has the NBA in his genes, I would much rather have Curry
Westbrook and Durant are way better offensively than Harden. No matter what, Durant will give you 30 no matter who is on him. What did Harden average in the Finals? I know it is just one series, and he will probably get a little better, but I would be hesitant to invest in a player when they don't show up in the most important time. Ibaka isn't a great post player offensively, but he played his best in the finals. Pressure players are who we need, people who are not scared. Harden can't contribute unless he's hitting, and even then he still is a liaility on defense. I think Harden is a good role player, but he might have tapped out on his potential. Can he win 6th man again? He shouldn't start, we need our best perimeter defender out there (Sefalosha)
@free_cole--Ibaka is more important than Harden for a # of reasons. How many good big men are there? Ibaka is the best shot blocking power forward, he runs the floor, plays good defense, helps out. Makes up for our bad defenders, like Harden, and when Westbrook and Durant let people get to the rim. Ibaka is a good perimeter shooter, and he is getting better offensively on the block. I would argue Ibaka has more upside than Harden also. Harden's athleticism is not his strong suit, and he can't go right. What can Harden improve on substantially? His problem is he is not consistent and he is only good on the offensive end, and when he is not hitting his shot, what good is he? a facilitator, that's about it, but that doesn't warrant a max contract. I heard someone suggest we trade Harden for Cousins, which i would be okay with, but i would prefer we get Stephen Curry. He wouldn't get the max, i think he is better than Harden, and then the Thunder wouldn't be strapped for the whole time Harden would be signed
OkcBaby i agree. Why would brooks keep out our best defender against wade and lebron is beyond me. And to put Harden on him, our worse defender was a big mistake. I felt Brooks was never that good of a coach, we have the most talent in the league, but don't play well together or execute. That falls on the coach more than anything
stats arent everything. I dont know the stats, but i do know, harden can't go left, he can't play any defense, and he is inconsistent. He does play well in transition, and i think he is hiding among two superstars, which is what he should do. Play well amongst his team, but he is definitely not a max player. Eric Gordon got a max contract, and he is definitely better than harden, and Gordon probably shouldn't have recieved a max deal. We could use that money to get another wing player for less than a max deal, and use the rest of that money, plus the money we are paying perkins, and get a better center. We need to build around Westbrook Durant and Ibaka. Harden isn't worth building around if he is overpaid
eric maynor is good, and i know he is young, but he has that same quality that harden has that i don't like. The not that ahtletic, but can get to where he needs to go type game. But when a defender really locks in on him, he can't do anything. All harden will do is try to draw a foul, and the refs did right by not calling those fouls. but maynor is a setup point guard who runs our team well, but he is definitely not the best backup pg. Drew Bledsoe? much better. maynor just doesn't have any way to create space sometimes.
1 year, 5 months ago on Thursday Bolts - 9.13.12
i am very serious. i think people on here consider themselves real fans, and know the game of basketball somewhat. if so, then how else does harden help us besides scoring and playmaking? i know that is important, but he wants a max contract? we are crazy as hell if we give him that. way overpaid. is he that much better than another 6-man like jason terry or ginobili? absolutely not, harden is inconsistent, he played like he was scared the whole finals. He missed a wide open layup, then he was scared to even look at the goal. That was not his first time not stepping up against top level competition either. Harden feeds off of our other 2 superstars, and yes, stephan curry was better than him in college, and he is still better than him now. Better ballhandler, better defender, passer, and shooter. Harden is bigger, can finish to the hole better, and a better slasher. But harder is not a good pressure player, he can't get off a great shot when the defense focuses on him, and he would be sereverly overpaid if we give him a max deal. Harden can only go left, i don't know why the heat were the only team that noticed that, but he couldn't go anywhere against them.
for all the thunder fans, im putting on my gm hat. We missed out this summer to really improve our team, we could have signed o.j. mayo for a very reasonable price. Way less than what harden commands, but the main move i would have made, besides signing mayo, is trading harden for stephen curry. Let curry be our 6th man, he is better than harden anyways, and we would have the best backup pg in the NBA. We would also have a better bench with him and mayo. Now that mayo is signed, we should still make that trade happen, it would make our team better, and save us money. Harden lost all crediblity when he played like a scared 7th grader. We can't win a championship with his kind of inconsistency