Milo Moon
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The UGA/UF/USCe games are all scheduled Thanksgiving weekend, and there would not be any reason to move those scheduled rivaries. It would allow some of those teams to pair up with a conference game that week where the rest of the ACC/SEC challenge happened. If you get one more of the rivarlies onto Thanksgiving weekend (UK/UL or Vandy/WF), you could then schedule two SEC east games that weekend. USCe/UF/UGA and Vandy or UK. There is only one set game between those two (UGA/UF), and the cocktail party is not moving from October. That would give CBS at least one marquee matchup that weekend outside of the ACC/SEC challenge. There should be at least one good match up created between the UF/USCe/UGA schools each year.
My idea of an alliance was a little bit different. Have an open date with all of the teams in each league. This will take a couple of years to cycle through, but could happen in theory. I pick the 2nd or 3rd weekend in September. Each team is each scheduled for a home or away game in the line up, but teams are set outside of the current 4/5 current rivarly games. This allows the schools and communities to plan for a home game, which takes a lot of work and resources. This will allow the conferences to schedule pre-season for the next year based upon the needs of the team and conferences. Those teams that need a marquee game to build SOS for a hopeful playoff bid could be scheduled to play each other. Those teams that will need a little help reaching bowl eligibilty could be scheduled against the projected bottom teams for the other league to hopefully pad a victory. This will allow a nice rotation of teams, and not lock teams (other than the current rivalry games) into a long term contract. If the whole thing blows up one year, I am sure the schools will not have much of an issue filling the schedule with buying a game with FCS or something. Plus if it is an ACC/SEC challenge, it is more inventory for the two conferences networks without ESPN paying more money.
Instead of a 9th conference game, I would rather see the SEC pair up with the ACC and B12 for marque games for the fans. The ACC schools that are not already locked into SEC/ACC rivalries could rotate with ND and a SEC school. The B12 could do the same with a couple of schools looking to improve their conference schedule. Of course the SEC/ACC could go all in and match up all 14 schools. The current 4 rivalries could be maintained, while the rest of the conferences rotate. ND could participate at their request.
I agree. There would be no way to police this fairly. What might be offensive to one person would be a compliment to another. I once had a customer chew me out because I said "yes Mamm". She gave me some lecture that Mamm was short for madam, and she did not run a brothel.
I think the current policy in place will suffice. Let the venue handle the issue on a case by case basis. The NCAA should issue a set of guidelines for officials (on and off the court), but handing down punishments on the schools for the behavior of the fans??? That is as sad as calling an unsportsmanship penalty on the home team because the crowd is to loud. Never understood that rule. That is what home field advantage is all about.
I have a feeling that the SOS will be the key to seperating 4 from 5 most years. If you look at the history of the BCS, most years there was agreement on the top 2 or 3 teams, it was that fourth team that people would have issues agreeing on. As long as the spokesperson can go on TV and justify why they picked team X over team Y, there should not be to many issues except from the faithful of that school's supporters.
@SJSPEED @John at MrSEC Playing across town in a pro stadium does not fit the SEC style. Cincy does not have the background to fit into the SEC, which is usually rule state flagship campuses, not a inner city research institution.
I fully expect one of the two open championship games to go to Indy. Indy did a great job with the super bowl, unlike Detroit. Plus the NCAA is headquartered there. That should quite some of the northern issues for a while. One of the major reasons why there are no northern semi spots is how many northern bowls are there? There is the Detroit bowl, and that is it. Develop a St. Louis Bowl or Indy bowl and build it over the next decade and see if it gets into the rotation on the next go round. You cannot sell what does not exist.
@SouthernBoiSB @HoustonVol Maybe that was not the best way to present my example. Think of the GOR as a pre-numo agreement. In this pre-nump, if the man leaves the relationship, the ex-wife keeps the house, car, and all the income. So this man is free to go hook up with their new wife, but he will not be able to bring anything to the relationship financially until the pre-nump expires in X years. The new woman will have to pay for the house, car, food, everything until the pre-nump ends. Just how attractive would this man be to a new spouse? On the flip side of the argument, all contracts can be broken with a price. You ask a girl to marry you and give her a nice ring. You end up breaking off the engagement, and ask for the ring back. She says no. I own it now. You offer her $500 for the ring. She says no. You offer her a $1000 she says no. She now says you want the ring it will cost you $2000. You come back and say the ring is only worth $1500, why would I pay you more than the ring is worth? Because I own the ring and you want it. The reason GOR are so strong is because the conference owns the media rights and does not have to negotiate if you leave. You can sue, complain all you want. The conference does not have to do anything. It will be interesting when these GOR have just a few years left in them. At that point it might be worth it for school X to leave and not have access to their rights for a year or two. But a dozen? not going to happen. There is also only one school with the resources to buy out a GOR, and that is Texas.
It is the difference between borrowing and owning. Basically up to now, the conference has been paying Maryland annually for the rights to resell their games in a package with the rest of the conference. There was agreed amount that they could pay to leave and take their rights and sell them to someone else. With the GOR, the conference now owns those rights for X number of years. Even if the school leaves, the conference owns those rights for X number of years. It does not have to give them up or sell them. Ever had to negociate with someone that does not have to negociate? Yes there is a price tag that could be paid, but no one knows what that would be, and would probably be higher than the rights are actually worth. Think of it this way. You ask someone to marry you and give them an engagement ring. Well you find yourself wanting to be with someone else and break off the engagement. You ask for the ring back, and get a no. You offer $500.00, still get a no. You offer a $1000, and get a no. You then ask for a price. She says $5000, you balk. The ring is only worth $1500. Tough, I own the ring you don't. You are the one that wants it, and I have it. You want it, there is your price. It will be interesting to see what happens once there are only 2-3 years left in these GORs.
I am sure the keystone to all of this was UNC and UVA. There was no secrete that the B10 and the SEC wanted them, and there were talks. The issue was that the fan bases wanted the SEC for the competition and bonding with southern schools and fan bases. The administration wanted the B10 and the academic side of the equation, though that improvement was very slight, if at all. So when all was said and done, the presidents knew that they could not sell a move to the B10 to the boosters and fans (look at the reaction of Maryland's fan base). The bowties would not accept an academic downgrade to the SEC. The the best option was to stay put and make it work. I am sure Delany is not happy, and can now sympathize with PAC and Scott for swinging for the fences and ending up with mud. As for a ACC network and their worth, major. Look at all of the metro areas that are in the ACC footprint. Plus toss in the possible ND football game, plus all of the top quality basketball and lacrosse, and it would be a gold mine. ESPN knows this, and if they have to pony up more money to keep from losing that inventory to Fox and the BTN, then it will be worth it.
Remember with the ACC, it is primarily the large state schools that are of interest to the BTN, SEC and B12. Miami has been clear that it is not in any hurry to try and compete financially with the schools in the B12 or SEC. The athletic budget at Miami is less than every SEC school at the moment. I could see the ACC being raided. UVA and UNC to the B10, VT and NCSt to the SEC and Clemson, GT, FSU and L'Ville to the B12. What does that leave? A collection of private universities like ND (Duke, WF, Miami, BC, SYR) and left over public schools like Pitt that have a long standing rivarly with ND. There are several schools that could be tapped to round out the conference like Temple, UConn, UCF, USF. Which basically shows that the future of the ACC could the history of the Big East. The future ACC could also focus on private schools - Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, Rice, BYU, Navy (I know public) in forming more of a national footprint of private sporting institutions. Would ND look to leave that collection?
The only reason the B12 has not expanded is the lack of quality additions, right now. If the B12 expanded today, they would be picking from CSU, UNM, UTEP, UH, Cincy, BYU, Memphis, Boise St, etc. Is there one match up of Texas or OU vs. that list that a casual fan would tune in to watch in any sport? (Maybe Kansas vs. Memphis/Cincy in men's BB) There are few national attractive name brands that bring value and TV markets in either of the money sports. When you are already have two teams in Kansas, and the secondary team in Iowa, you don't need to add more outposts or minor TV markets. The B12 is taking a wait and see approach, just like the SEC is doing. They are waiting to see IF the ACC destabilizes and multiple teams become available out of desperation. Which I don't think will happen. Right now the B12 has a great product and is making as much money as any other conference. Plus the big cow (Texas) is happy with the status.
It would not discriminate because all players would have the same ability to market and have themselves marketed. Last year, the most valuable player at Baylor was on the woman's basketball team - Britney Grinder (SIC?), while could you name anyone off of the football or men's basketball? Would the larger athletic departments with larger alumni bases be able to twist this to their advantage? Yep. Imagine a 5 Star QB deciding between schools. Alabama could say that a two year starter could earn the maximum stipend ($2000/month) and expect to leave school with a trust fund worth $1million dollars from jersey/T-shirts sales and commercials. While a smaller school with less of a fan base like Georgia Tech could offer an expected 3 years of starting, but the player could only expect half of the maximum stipend ($1000/month) and a trust fund of 1/4 million when he leaves school. What school would you choose? Of course in both cases the athlete has to make him/herself marketable. If you are riding the pine you are not worth anything.
The schools and players could sign a deal under the schools licensing and marketing contract that is already in place. Go back to the L'ville and the Kevin Ware RI5E t-shirts. L'ville/Adidas had to stop selling them because they were making money off of a players likeness. Instead of banning the shirt and image. Why not restructure the rules to reward the school, player and contribute to the general scholarship fund and athletic stipend fund of the school? Say the shirt currently costs $20. Raise the price to $25, and have that extra money go to a trust fund for the athlete. The athlete could draw a stipend off that fund (with the monthly limit set by the NCAA or Conference). Upon earning his/her degree, completing their eligibilty, and or turning pro, the athlete would receive the balance of his/her personal stipend fund. This would allow the marketable players equal access to capitalize on their likeness.
I think what will happen is there are going to be some rules created to allow the schools and athletes profit off of a student athletes imagine. Instead of some type of stipend that could have to be justified on why X team gets so much while X team gets nothing. If you just do it as a licensing issue, then it only applies to the star players. The female basketball player could profit along with the football player all the way down to the hot swimmer. This keeps it from being about sports teams and athletes and less about stipends, but about the individual players themselves and what they are worth.
Shouldn't TAMU win the tiebreaker with UGA since a TAMU player won the Heisman?
I personally feel that there should be a true dead period. This will help the coaches get some down time and allow the kids time off and able to relax, gather their thoughts, etc. However I don't like the schools pick when their dead period should be. They should just pick a month - July. No contact, no visits, just quite. Everyone talks about getting some type of balance for coaches, but few realize the effect on the kids if/when the recruiting contact handcuffs are taken off. Could you imagine the kid that gets 1000's of texts, emails and calls a day. Already we are seeing schools mail 102 letters to a kid to stuff the mail box. Recruiting is one of these keeping up with the Jones'. Once one school does a mailbox bomb, the rest will follow suit just to keep up. How effective will mailbox bombs be once the kid starts getting them from 7-10 schools? Pick the month of May. This is after spring ball, and during finals. It will allow the student a month of relaxation to focus on final exams. Plus if schools pick the four weeks, then you have one school able to overwhelm a student while knowing that their main rival will have to be quite (or cheat) to maintain contact. Plus the student might forget that Alabama is in their quite period and wonder why they stopped calling while Auburn has everyone and their mother contacting the recruit knowing that a peep out of Bama and it is a violation. So I say a dead period for everyone.
I don't see where there is a northern option at this time. They are not going to play a game in the open air stadium at the beginning of January. They don't want to risk having a weather disaster early in the rotation cycle. The Super Bowl can risk a weather event because everyone knows it will continue on regardless of a bad year. That is not a given with the future BCS championships. So that leaves domed stadiums only. I can only think of four domed stadiums in the "north" - Minneapolis, Indy, Detroit and St. Louis (I know a stretch, and still closer to B10 country than Dallas or Atlanta). Only one of those cities currently has a bowl game - Detroit. That city is not known for being able to pull off large sporting events. I don't remember great reviews about the Super Bowl that they hosted. The northern city that is the best at hosting major sporting events is Indy, and they currently do not have a bowl game. I do expect Indy to have a bowl game soon, and the B10 to push for it to be involved in future rotations of the games. One of the other issues is the cities also have NFL teams, but that does not hurt any of the other bowl game schedules.
I think that Martin is doing a good job building his foundation for the program and recruiting well. However I do think it is a bit early to be handing out raises. I don't think his first two teams lived up to expectations for the program. I will admit the team was not stocked that he took over, and the team was weaker than most Vol fans want to admit. However in both of his seasons, you can look at the season and see a lot of what ifs, plus add in the tournaments flame outs and I believe that he has not earned a raise yet. If Hart wants to offer him and extension and increase in bonuses - go right ahead, but I would hold off on a raise unless it was absolutely needed to avoid going through another coaching search.
As for bringing Pearl back. NO. I would not have much of an issue with bring Pearl back if it had only been a "I don't recognize anything in that photo" and a call the next morning to correct it. I would have handled one lie. What burned the bridge with Pearl for me was the fact that he called the recruits and their parents to help him cover up the lie. When he knew he was caught, That was when he fessed up about the photo. A basketball coach is a teacher and leader of youth. I do not want someone who (so publicly) lied, and someone that would ask others to cover up that lie, being a teacher and leader at my university.
The crown jewels are Texas, UNC, and UVA. ND will not join the SEC, and neither will Texas. That would mean Texas admitting that TAMU was right and have to follow their little brother. Ain't going to happen. If the SEC thought that WVU was a crown jewel, they would have added them instead of Mizzou. Florida St and Clemson bring little to no value to the future cable channel because they will bring no more households into the footprint. So the only real crown jewels that they are looking for reside in the states of North Carolina, Virginia and possibly Penn, Kansas, and Oklahoma to round out expansion. The top choice would be UNC and Duke. UNC brings the alumni base for the state of North Carolina, and Duke brings in one of the most valuable properties in sports, though all basketball. Which is not bad. The SEC does not need another football championship mouth to feed. After UNC and Duke, the next choices are UVA and VT. All four would be the preferred expansion and lock up the south.