@StormR FYI Storm- They are resurfacing, they still campaign and recruit. An offshoot is known as the 88's. They are alive, well and still strong.
@ArcticWarrior What Happens in Area 51, Stays in Area 51:-)
@JackMurphyRGR serious note...there was some shit with a 3 letter and the Russians having to do with the JFk assisantion though. the conspiracy group is off the mark; but shit happened. too bad Frank Sturgis passed away, he was a wealth of information.
@kineticFury NFW. seriously? oh brother.....
Thank You Peter. I've only been home once in the past 4 months. Normally, when I head home, I get my hair done. Not the last time, I could not do it. My hairdresser was in the AF and is the biggest tin foil hat wearing Alex Jones Groupie I have met to date. He is good with hair, but at the end of the 3 hours he takes to deal with my long hair; seriously, I have a fucking Migraine. Sometimes, its "the chemtrails". Other times, its "the reptilian blood in the blue bloods who run the Illuminati".Other times, its "how the government is poisoning everyone but the elite". Holy Crap, I wish I could quit him, but he is an awesome hair dresser. I am heading back soon, migraine medicine in hand.
@LauraWalkerKC I agree. I am thinking on US Soil. You?
Great Article Isaiah. Who Inspired these two? Probably a plethora of folks, probably it stemmed from a close family members belief and "influence", perhaps even genetics. When we look at how long the Jihad mindset has gone on, we may be able to trace back certain familial lineage as being connected to Jihad. I know of one Iranian clan, who prides themselves on being a strong Jihad family through many generations. It is thought "to be a gift to Allah and the cause" to martyr ones son(s). With a ritual such as this, parents justify putting their son up for auction to be a suicide bomber. When parents are paid large sums of money to martyr their children, a more ironic capitalist theme shows up. Financial and religous factors are in play to inspire such attacks.
@LauraWalkerKC...so true. A Rabid Reptile. Thank You/
@OPR I agree. Also, on the immigration issue, we have like 40 million immigrants and up to 36% of those get benefits (food stamps and medicaid mainly)- I do not think we can support these folks much longer. There has to be a cut off point.We cannot sustain this influx from a financial stand point for generations to come. Folks know if they emigrate to the US, that they are eligible for some benefits.
@OLDPH2 I was just researching missing peoples. 800,000 kids abducted a year in the US. Thats 1.5 kids a minute. About 7000+ cases are never solved. I know Russia and the Saudis are in on a chunk of that. Where do all these kids go?
@shagstar I wish eye for eye or tit for tat methodologies worked. At the end of both, all we have (if luck runs their way), is 2 guys standing there looking at each other thinking "what now". I think Violence does solve some problems.
@BrendanDoran I agree except with the "Kill Them" Part. I don't believe in killing unless we are engaged in war. If they want to keep to themselves and behold their beliefs, so be it. Unfortuneately, their beliefs include killing us and many others. 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world. I wonder how many Jihadis are in existence? Do you have any idea? I'd love to hear a number.
One person around me mentioned Sociopathic behavior and mindset.
@OlD PH2 Imagine, this has been going on for over 1157 years- this hatred, this ideology, this idea to kill those that do not have their belief. This hatred of Jews and Christians has been fostered and bred into their linneage for over 1100 years. This kind of crazy nothing new and it did not "radicalize" in the past 2 years in a guys mind, or over one trip to Russia in an individual. I am sad that this issue is not better understood. If we cannot understand this issue fully, then wrong directions and methodologies in our response to such individuals, groups and attacks will make the situation worse. I hear folks talk about using Psychotherapy to "change a Jihads mind" and my eyes roll back-very far.
@Iassen Donov yep.
@Black I could not read the article, it came through in a bright color and wiped the words on this device I am using. I caught a few sentences, it looks like the article expresses that there is collaboration between the journals mentioned and that they call the technical propaganda AQ 3.0. I used that term, referring to decades into the Jihad. If we start with the USS Cole, we can count by decades, how long we have been involved with this fight. I have been told it will last 30 years. Perhaps, longer.
@OldPH2 You bring up a valid point. Guilt can be a powerful tool to fuel the flames of an issue. On the surface, it looks as if our "lifestyle of America" is being attacked. However, the lifestyle rhetoric is just a sidebar. Global Jihad is present in apprx. 60 Countries. The Jihadi has something derogatory to say about each Countries lifestyle. They do not hate Americans for their lifestyle, they hate us because we are "infidels"- they hate Jews and Christians and believe they must be killed in order to achieve an Islamist World. They use our lifestyle as "proof" that we are Godless as our lifestyle is not in alignment with the Koran (as they interpret it). The Jihadis have zero tolerance for other religions, they believe the Koran is better than the bible, if you do not study the Koran, you must be killed. They also turn on Moderate, Pluralist Muslims who speak out against radical speech.
@JeffreyCarr- Something I've noticed, is that a Jihadi will blend in until he/she gears up for their "act". What looks like a sudden "radicalization" is actually just an outward sign that the Jihadi is getting ready to act. He/she leaves all pretense behind and gears up for the event. By posting the Jihad videos and propaganda, it is a way to leave a message that says "This is/was My Cause"; as the chance for death is imminent. Part of the attack, is leaving a message that portrays your cause for after the fact. It is calculated.
@JeffreyCarr - I believe they came here radicalized somewhat, at 8 and 13 years old. There are rumors that Hezbollah may have had a hand in this pair. I hope not. If Hezbollah has made a move on US soil, it is a game changer. We've seen cells with Al-Haqqani, Taliban, AQ and Hezbollah meeting together on US Soil since prior to 9/11. We know they collaborate. I think it is possible AQ and another group worked together with these 2. Also, folks seem to think that overseas training camps or online training are the only choi\ces for learning Jihadi skills. These skills can be taught one on one, or passed via methodologies that do not entail electronic transmit. I believe it is likely that skilled bomb makers are already in place on US soil on behalf of these terrorist groups. JMO. Best, J
This is a great article with some little known information. Thank You. I don't think this was a sleeper cell. The true Sleepers, or parents or their pups as I call them, will (JMO) hail from parents born in the U.S. I think it is outrageous that I have not heard one person talk about the possibility that the Boston Bombers were trained on USA soil. Yes, there are training camps in 60 other countries. However, there are more than likely skilled bomb makers already living on US soil. Those guys/gals that are skilled in bomb making, would be the "sleepers". They don't get caught, they teach, they excell at passing information about their Jihadi trade along to those who are devout and they remain under the radar and out of the eye of LEO. We know there have been cells of AQ, Al-Haqqani, Hezzbollah and other well known terrorist groups on US soil. This latest attack, if traced back to Hezbollah, means we have entered a new period of Jihad; a period of more intense attacks on US soil.
@Wiggy11 I hear your frustration. Many folks have been interviewed and have subsequently walked free. Some of them, I have no doubt, have ties with radical Islam and may intend to harm us. Tamerlan Tsarnaev had not broken any laws when he was interviewed. If they arrested him, what charges would have been filed? I think intel will make progress after this attack. There will need to be laws in place pertaining to the potential for the elements of a conspiracy or highly suspicious behavior to commit Foreign Terrorism. I cannot imagine how this would happen, without infringing on privacy laws. We have made child pornogrophy illegal to view online. Perhaps, there will be laws against viewing terrorist materials as well; yet then, we come close to infringing on freedom of speech. The FBI has worked tirelessly to thwart Jihadist Attacks on USA soil. Although their work is not advertised, they've done a spectacular job. There is a lapse in our intel systems, we are not seamless, the Intel field needs to improve after this attack. Like 9/11, I know we will.