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@GREENE1148 [BLAME ADAMS FACTION] @DanielLawler true. No doubt he wont keep it up. He isnt bad for what he is which is just a midrange shooter that comes in and brings some energy and every now and then rebounding. But I wouldn't want him consistently to use a lot of my possessions

16 hours, 7 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@GREENE1148 [BLAME ADAMS FACTION] @DanielLawler @King of Carrot Flowers the third Greens percentages have gone up but not sure what u mean about added new stuff? He has always been a good all around guy and thats what he was in college. He hasn't added any new dimensions to his game. His numbers have increased bc his minutes have. His steal and block numbers have gone down per min, and his assist numbers essentially identical to last year per minute. same with rebounding just getting more mins so increasing. But about barnes though I think his hype out of high school and coming into the league wasn't misplaced. I think he has a pure shot and has added a post game. He is rebounding better this year than last, and I think he will progress and progress as a scorer. I think greens ceiling is ultimately lower. 

16 hours, 12 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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the warriors roster really does look so much better than ours overall. Yes kd and russ are so good we can beat anyone. But my God curry thompson green lee barnes bogut iggy speights. Pretty ridiculous

16 hours, 21 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third Yeah. I mean green been very good and surprising. I feel like green is close to his ceiling and just kinda is what he is, and with barnes imo I think he will get better and better

16 hours, 29 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third They put barnes on the best player a lot last year. They moved him to pf this year and he has been guarding bigs more. Definitely a very good defender himself.

16 hours, 32 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third they both should see the floor a lot. But I do think it'd be better for the team if barnes started if only bc it seems to control his confidence. I think green would be the same player probably either way. 

16 hours, 36 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third I think barnes is actually a legit talent. Just got thrown off last year. He probably won't shoot 45 from three but I think he is a good jumpshooter that is progressing.

16 hours, 38 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third I don't think he will. If you are basing that he will on the previous years then you have to say greens percentage is unsustainable.

16 hours, 40 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third obviously dbpm isnt the be all end all. Every stat I gave and the counterpart stats are elite. Whether he is better on d than green is a different argument. He has been very good on d this year

16 hours, 41 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third has a higher ws/48 this year.

16 hours, 44 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@GREENE1148 [BLAME ADAMS FACTION] @DanielLawler @d21 @King of Carrot Flowers the third yeah I am not making some huge argument about barnes being a better defender, just saying he has been very good on d. And is usually guarding pfs much bigger this year. He is barely big enough to be a sf much less a pf

16 hours, 47 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@GREENE1148 [BLAME ADAMS FACTION] @DanielLawler @d21 @King of Carrot Flowers the third significantly better opponenent PER and efg for barnes.

16 hours, 48 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@GREENE1148 [BLAME ADAMS FACTION] @DanielLawler @d21 @King of Carrot Flowers the third d rating good, on off d stats, incredible opponent counterpart PER and defensive efg. Haven't found any drpm for the year yet.

16 hours, 50 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@d21 @DanielLawler @King of Carrot Flowers the third Barnes has been great on d this year

16 hours, 52 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@d21 @GREENE1148 [BLAME ADAMS FACTION] and what the hell is up with speights? He's making everything and is like 2nd in the nba in PER. 

16 hours, 55 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third sucks for barnes that lee is coming back. Pretty unfair if he goes back to the bench with how well he's played. I like him better than green anyway but I like both of them. Might be better without lee

16 hours, 56 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@GREENE1148 [BLAME ADAMS FACTION] Harrison barnes been a badass too this year. Playing great, and on d as well

16 hours, 59 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third yeah a big reason we are a good rebounding team is actually bc of them and not our bigs necessarily. Russ a great rebounder for his position especially and kd is too. Ibaka should be so much better as a rebounder. No reason at all he shouldn't just dominate the boards. But he doesn't really blockout and is awful in general with positioning. Not really sure what adams deal is with rebounding

17 hours, 2 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third prob get more opportunities at the rim with russ. Seemed like russ had developed a rapport with him. Wanted to get him involved and enjoyed having someone who caught the ball. 

17 hours, 5 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@Marko (Lacoste baby) I was in the group that didn't believe in randle but man I felt absolutely horrible for him. Seems like a nice kid and for that to happen in your first game has to be extremely discouraging

17 hours, 7 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@Marko (Lacoste baby) Yeah I don't think hes good at all. He really is a huge liability bc of his ft shooting. And outside of catching lobs offers nothing scoring wise. Great rebounder but I think they'd be better with a lot of guys in his place. He is definitely one of their bigger weaknesses

17 hours, 8 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third bout the only thing I like for the lakers is their bigs. Like hill and davis. 

17 hours, 9 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third yeah for me I'd take hill. But I am a big fan of him and just not of Jordan

17 hours, 11 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@ThunderUp15 Are you saying its a good thing if he's wearing a splint or what are u saying

17 hours, 11 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@ThunderUp15 @DanielLawler sorry just saw this. Yeah agreed on westbrook and not sure on kd. But I said when kd first got hurt that he'd be back dec 2nd.

17 hours, 12 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@Marko (Lacoste baby) yeah I'd love to have him. I imagine he will actually establish himself as an all star and elite center in the upcoming years as orlando gets better. And they will be good I think. Tobias Harris and Oladipo I like a lot. 

17 hours, 14 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third yeah both clearly the elite of the elite at rebounding. I just have never liked jordan due to him being so limited and such a liability as a ft shooter. But his athleticism and rebounding at least make him a pretty serviceable center. I actually think jordan hill prob better than jordan

17 hours, 17 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third what was the rim numbers? I always try to take into account someone overall and overall on d instead of just the rim protection numbers. For me I don't base too much just off that stat. But it's nice to know.

17 hours, 21 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@Marko (Lacoste baby) Guys as skilled as him and can shoot like that as a 7 footer that can also rebound as well as anyone, and do pretty much everything don't come along much. Drummond essentially just a freak athlete that gobbles up rebounds. Has no real bball skills

17 hours, 22 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@Marko (Lacoste baby) yeah def not close with drummond and vucevic for me. But to each their own.

17 hours, 24 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@Marko (Lacoste baby) Jordan hill to me is extremely underrated due to being on that team. He is actually a legitimate center. Really been good this year and always brings a lot. I'd love a guy like that off my bench

17 hours, 24 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@Marko (Lacoste baby) good passer too. decent shotblocker not great.

17 hours, 25 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third I'd only take dwight, cousins, gasol, obv ad but I dont consider him a c for this, jefferson. that's prob it for me. I just wondered bc he's one of my favorite players. I think he's actually one of the best in the league just stuck on a not great team even though they're really playing solid.

17 hours, 27 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third damn so you are really low on vucevic then

17 hours, 29 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third you'd take deandre over vucevic?

17 hours, 30 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@ThunderUp15 @DanielLawler but if it is going to be a couple weeks until either gets back then we are going to need a miracle to win some of these games. It's a shame too that kd and russ aren't hurt for the hard part of the schedule bc we would be losing either way ha. And then we could almost guarantee wins later. Just sucks to be playing so many shit teams and not being able to win any of them really.

17 hours, 30 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@ThunderUp15 @DanielLawler Yeah If we can just hit the .500 mark by like the 35-36th game. If we could get those guys back in the next few and fight back to .500 and say be 18-18 with 46 games left we'd need to go something like 31-15 or something. That's clearly very doable. 

17 hours, 32 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@ThunderUp15 @DanielLawler @King of Carrot Flowers the third we also had martin that year too though. And yeah I get that the winning percentage was slightly higher but we clearly were better in the playoffs and against the spurs than we've ever played since. We didn't hit our peak until then though

17 hours, 35 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@ThunderUp15 yeah we could at least win most of those. We'd be capable of winning all but prob would lose to the pelicans but 4-1 very possible in that stretch if russ was there obviously

17 hours, 38 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third Random question. How many centers would you take over Vucevic starting a team right now

17 hours, 42 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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why couldn't jackson have accidentally banked that 3 in like stephenson did earlier in the year? Are the owners really being punished? After the wbrook injury and ibaka plus this now, it really feels like some cosmic force is at work.

18 hours, 17 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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@King of Carrot Flowers the third still extremely depressing. I look forward to the playoffs so much and each year I am like okay we got it next year. To have to wait 2 years to see us in the playoffs again will suck. Kd and russ are getting older and who knows if they stay. I just dont think we can really afford to just waste a year like we have the last 2 with injuries

18 hours, 19 minutes ago on Thunder stumble late again, lose to Brooklyn 94-92

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