senseandsenescence
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12 is bound to disappoint people and I don't see the value in trading up. How many guys are locks in this draft to be stars? Probably Noel, Porter at least borderline, Burke, B-Mac and then you are just guessing. Keep an eye on Tony Snell with a later pick. He's got the Presti profile and meets Kevin Hetrick's profile for a SG or SF pretty well.
@GREENE1148 I know. When people are obviously mistaken not due to lack of knowledge but a hurried post I like to soften the blow with a joke.
@Fisha Status @nomad Gobert might. Olynyk probably has trouble touching his knees without bending. ;)
Don't know if you guys have been over this, but Olynyk's measurements are probably not Presti material. Maybe a guy like Muscala in the second round would give a moderately athletic low post threat. Less risk too since no contract is guaranteed. On the other hand Gobert and Dieng are likely picks if someone better doesn't slide. Zeller doesn't look nearly as bad now either.
@ou_sas @senseandsenescence I mean that even if you sort by drafted players and by year, it's not necessarily representative of the ones that actually play. Lots of people's measurements, even drafted guys, are guys that never played. So its pretty good if you want to know just about drafted guys, but the NBA as a whole is not necessarily represented. My focus is on the draft right now, but I think "FA" the Presti way and trades could also be influenced by this information.
@ou_sas @senseandsenescence Forgot about that page. I guess its a good baseline, but hard to know how representative it is. Will probably be better as the 90s draft guys retire.
@ou_sas @senseandsenescence Was about to post the same. It is highly sortable, but won't do the math for you. Not easily exportable either.
@long arm of the law @senseandsenescence Combine results is what I'm waiting for. I still find it hard to believe that Zeller's wingspan is actually that small relative to his height. I'm just an average guy and my wingspan is slightly longer than my height.
@long arm of the law @senseandsenescence Thanks. Ultimately that was my goal, to compare to the current draft class and see if I could rule in or out certain players.
@long arm of the law @senseandsenescence Good idea. Will add.
@ou_sas @senseandsenescence You can easily do that with the information I'm recording. When I'm finished you will be able to filter by things like current player, years with Presti, etc. to make those calculations.
Since we are joining the bad teams of the League in dreaming about the draft, I'm going to give a peek at my draft spreadsheet. Comments and suggestions are welcome. The general idea is to chart all guys Presti has ever acquired and test the widely held hypotheses about the physical profile of a "Presti guy."
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0As-DytRTWS5hdGZYTC1ydFU5VXVhWnVQYXpaQ2l1dWc#gid=0
Other thoughts or additional ideas that could be used to supplement or expand are also welcome.
@tbird26p @senseandsenescence @Old Man Game So do 3 point shooters. The point is that this hypothetical post scorer is not going to be someone who can dominate in the post and actually provide realistic spacing for Durant unless Al Jefferson decides he really wants to come to OKC and signs for the mid level. So these hypothetical benefits are not going to be that greart.
@Old Man Game No. Not realistically. Your post scorer is not going to be Zach Randolph. He's going to be someone that is mediocre. I'll take my chances on the 3s.
@neo12 @Old Man Game Neither. They are both going to play 1 and 2 so we will actually just field 3 "3s"
I see we have the panic attack going on. Just remember that we lost this game by four without a top 10 player and our best player having his 14th worst shooting night of his career (http://bkref.com/tiny/wfsio). There is a lot to be proud of. It looked like they might quit, but in the end a few things bounced their way and they fought to the end.
@long arm of the law @senseandsenescence Eh. I have some old ones too that aren't to the 30 year mark, so they are still earning interest. Frankly as bad as interest rates are right now you have to be lucky or good on the stock market to be getting a better return on investment. Now if you want to cash out to pay down on something else then that's different, but as investments go they are pretty good right now if you are just looking for a short term investment.
@long arm of the law I added on to your savings bond discussion below. Depending on the bond you have, part of the face value may be interest too. EE/E bonds in particular were sold at half of face value.
@long arm of the law @ou_sas The tax is on the interest, but keep in mind that a 1000 dollar bond was probably purchased for 500 dollars and so part of the face value was also interest.