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@PenGeno @dannyjimmy The Scuderi buyout referendum. November 2014. November 2016 is too late. 

3 days, 17 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/thirdpres.html

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@PenGeno @dannyjimmy I don't really have any money. I would agree to participate in the drafting of a petition; we could formulate a concise argument presenting overwhelming evidence for it as a business move and intelligent roster decision, and then gather signatures. It's probably too late to get it listed on the Pittsburgh municipal or Allegheny County ballot box this November as an initiative or a referendum, but whatever. Do we have anyone in Penguins realm who specializes in referendum strategizing? PA does have state mandates for charter cities and counties guaranteeing the right to a referendum based on number of signatures. 


Democracy, or whatever. 

3 days, 17 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/thirdpres.html

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@PenGeno @dannyjimmy Oh man I forgot about that part. Yea, at this point trading him and retaining salary is prob better than keeping him. Buying him out would probably be slightly better.

Rob Scuderi buyout from CapGeek.com

  • 2015-16: $1,291,667
  • 2016-17: $1,791,667
  • 2017-18: $916,667
  • 2018-19: $916,667

The buyout is a lower cap hit than trading and retaining between 40% and 60% of his salary, but with an additional year w a small cap hit. 

3 days, 18 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/thirdpres.html

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@KyleSchroeck @Zhan No harm in losing Zatkoff. Greiss #1, Fleury #2!!!!!!!!! Fleury is an excellent backup goaltender. 

3 days, 18 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/thirdpres.html

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@PenGeno I sat in the end where pens defend twice last night. He still ices the puck all the time; he's old and slow. He's got to be 6th or 7th Dman I hope I hope I hope. 

3 days, 18 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/thirdpres.html

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@LP66 @PenGeno Pens prospects vs US prospects on the moon 10pm Sunday. 

4 days, 13 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/preseason-gameday-minnesota-wild-pittsburgh-penguins.html

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@LoranMannIsTheMan In the East they easily make the playoffs. In the West they prob end up wildcard. Same statements hold for Pens. 

4 days, 13 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/preseason-gameday-minnesota-wild-pittsburgh-penguins.html

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@Redacted_66 @dannyjimmy both Minn and SJ will make the playoffs, no? Fairly certain they will. Minn maybe gets the wildcard. San Jose wins their division like almost every year. This could be San Jose's year; you have to figure sooner or later they get it with that team. 

4 days, 15 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/preseason-gameday-minnesota-wild-pittsburgh-penguins.html

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Parise Koivu Pominville, Vanek Granlund Keranen. That should be decisive. We'll get to see how the youths handle being destroyed. I'm going to this one. Excited to see how the new guys and the young guys handle being outmatched.  

4 days, 17 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/preseason-gameday-minnesota-wild-pittsburgh-penguins.html

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@Mrmcgibblets @Zhan ugh letang. so terrible. 

5 days, 21 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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re: zac sill vs craig adams: ideally you go with neither, right? Adams doesn't have the ability to be a regular starter anymore. It's cool. No biggie. 

5 days, 21 hours ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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@brendannn look at their D pairings though. No Zetterberg either. Also, hahaha their D pairings. 

1 week ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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You got dem good zings going. I see tpb training camp is officially in session. So many revving engines. 

1 week, 6 days ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/pens-delivered-tickets-today.html

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@mwn3d @Claude Giroux's Arresting Officer Yea so 1) you can't put a fake faceoff man in the circle, anticipating that he'll get kicked out, after which you put your real faceoff guy in, because they make the first guy retake the draw. 

and 2) it has the drawbacks of like a fault serve in tennis because you only get one redo and then you suffer. Puts pressure on the second draw; even if you screw up honest it's a penalty so you're at a disadvantage if you get warned in the circle after icing. 

2 weeks, 3 days ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/nhls-new-rules-and-what-it-means-for-you.html

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@DoorMatt @FuuManChuMan If Letang's bad decision habits end up having been a consequence of Bylsma's coaching system and not a consequence of Letang's bad decision habits, I'll wear lady underwear on gamedays for a month and send pics to whoever wants them. 

2 weeks, 4 days ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/nhls-new-rules-and-what-it-means-for-you.html

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Can the responsible media persons be identified, ridiculed, and publicly humiliated for publishing this "story"? LOL hoaxes. I swear one day my dream will come true--I'll wake up, open the paper, and the front page headline will say: 


YOUR MOM IS GAY

3 weeks, 5 days ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/here-is-a-pic-of-the-front-page-of-the-ottawa-sun-when-they-thought-sidney-crosby-was-arrested.html

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@pawsbyandmeowkin yea, still not buying. When I turn on the car radio and hear the words "hooters" and "pornstar" coming out of his fat disgusting throat it makes me want to let my car drift off the road. But then I remember that I can turn the radio off. And I do that instead. 

1 month, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/madden-malkin-not-impressed-by-johnston.html

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Spread your wings and prepare to fly

For you have become a Sutterfly

Fly abandonedly into the sun

If you should return to me

We truly were meant to be

So spread your wings and fly

 Sutterfly

So flutter through the sky

Sutterfly, fly

Spread your wings and fly

Sutterfly 

1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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@Hibbits @dannyjimmy Penner would prob sign for less (as other UFAs have been doing), but yes at any rate Scuderi would have to go

1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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Sign. Dustin. Penner. 

1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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@Beaube Nett Odds are pretty strong that Greiss is better than Fleury. 

1 month, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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@Rage homotheist. 

2 months ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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@cournoyer21 

Trading Malkin. Here we go. Malkin is like the greatest center in the league (after Crosby), and one should NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER TRADE HIM EVER. That's as silly as trading Crosby. Trading Malkin for more good players is like agreeing to give an evil intelligent dog your arms as a meal in exchange for the car you always wanted. 

2 months ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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@NickDobda Ridiculous right? What I have been seeing all over the interwebz is people asking of the Capitals, 'if you've decided to bolster your blueline by raiding another team's defensive corps, why pick the Penguins of all teams!?' hahaha

Barry Trotz a "retread" and Mike Johnston "full of potential?" Trotz is elite, he's barely 50 years old, and has been coaching in the NHL for 15 years. Any team would love to have him as their coach, if they needed a coach. Penguins could have made him an offer if they didn't wait so long to officially fire their coach. I wish Barry Trotz was our coach. That would've been amazing. 

Johnston is 57 and hasn't coached a day in the NHL, except as an assistant. If you're going to honestly evaluate these two clubs, for what it's worth Washington has the clear edge in coaching. Then again, anyone would have been an improvement over Adam Oates, who I think is maybe the worst head coach I can think of ever. 

2 months, 2 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/heres-matt-niskanen-in-a-caps-jersey.html

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@rderr27 @bobbykimberley Kapanen top 6?? haha he's 18 years old 5-10 and 165 lbs. Never played in North America. He's top 9 WBS, for sure. 

2 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/brian-gibbons-signs-with-columbus.html

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@Pot Ash @dannyjimmy @Non Here is the direct link: http://capgeek.com/buyout-calculator/?player_id=491


unless tPb doesn't allow the posting of links in their comments sections, and I feel like they understandably don't, in which case no one will ever see this.

2 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/pens-ink-steve-downie-to-1-year-deal.html

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@Pot Ash @dannyjimmy @Non au contraire, Pot Ash, there is. According to capgeek anyway (and when are they ever wrong?). So if you go to capgeek website and select 'Penguins' and select 'Scuderi' and select 'buyout', you'll see what has influenced me. 

2 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/pens-ink-steve-downie-to-1-year-deal.html

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@brendannn @ac2012 Well, There were 62 goalies who played at least 20 games last year. Fleury played 64, Greiss played 25, and Zatkoff played 20. Greiss blew both of them out of the water on even strength save percentage:


Greiss - .932 

Fleury - .917

Zatkoff - .916


The problem with Zatkoff is that he isn't even as good as (or he's only as good as) Fleury. Most backups are better than or equal to Fleury.  Greiss is 28 and played backup for the Sharks for years. Either he sucks and never deserved a chance, or he never got a chance. Let's find out. If Fleury is gone after this upcoming season, Pens need to start figuring that shit out. 

2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/the-dream-dies-kulemin-signs-with-the-islanders.html

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@Beaube Nett $7.3 ? Not including Sutter, Spaling, Depres, Megna, Samuelsson, Farnham? If they all take their QOs I think we gotz just under $200,000.00

2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/the-dream-dies-kulemin-signs-with-the-islanders.html

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@Josh Boyd @dannyjimmy Sure you can. In fact, it'd be fantastic. Instead of paying him $3.375 million for the next three years, with a $3.375 million cap hit for each of the next three years, You'd pay this:


2014-15   $1,055,556 paid to Scuderi (but only $430,556 cap hit)

2015-16   $1,055,556 paid to Scuderi (but $1,430,556 cap hit)

2016-17   $1,055,556 paid to Scuderi (but $1,930,556 cap hit)

2017-18   $1,055,556 paid to Scuderi (and $1,055,556 cap hit)

2018-19   $1,055,556 paid to Scuderi (and $1,055,556 cap hit)

2019-20   $1,055,556 paid to Scuderi (and $1,055,556 cap hit)


It spreads the cap hit over twice the length of term, with more cap relief built into the front end of the buyout and minimal damage on the back end because of incremental increases in salary cap. Of course it's not all roses, but it's better than having Scuderi and not being able to add affordable free agent forwards that make the team better. 


How will next year's free agency crop compare to this one? How about the year after that? Will those free agencies be better or worse? Who is Rutherford going to pick up at the trade deadline? What terrible teams with good wingers are going to be terrible enough to sell off their good wingers to the Penguins at the trade deadline? What do the Pens give up at the deadline? Draft picks? UGH. 


Signing Kulemin and Grabovski is maybe not the greatest idea for Penguins, but on the other hand, they probably would have taken slightly less money to play on the Penguins (maybe...), and then you can trade Sutter for goodies--you're giving another team a solid 3rd center who is also an RFA so the team that gets him has a great amount of control over him, etc.; you could get something young plus a 1st rd draft pick even. AND you fit Grabovski and Kulemin on your team for 3-5 years. Grabovski now is better than Sutter will ever become anyway. 

2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/the-dream-dies-kulemin-signs-with-the-islanders.html

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All they had to do was buy out Scuderi and not sign Downie. 

2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/the-dream-dies-kulemin-signs-with-the-islanders.html

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Fuck. I wanted the Pens to sign Kulemin and Grabovski. Isles are getting way better. 

2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/the-dream-dies-kulemin-signs-with-the-islanders.html

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@Non Still, could get Kulemin or someone else with the cap space cleared by normal Scuderi buyout. 

2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/pens-ink-steve-downie-to-1-year-deal.html

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@Beaube Nett @mingtown Additional German available: Mikhail Grabovski (yes, German...?)


Buy out Scuderi and then sign Grabovski and Kulemin and then trade Sutter for goodies

2 months, 4 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/free-agency-so-far.html

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Vrbata, Grabovski, Kulemin, Winnik.... 

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/2014-archives/free-agency-so-far.html

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it is pretty funny!

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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@cblack66 I don't think it does. Simply refuse to fight. It's the Orpik way. We can honor his memory by adopting his ethics. 

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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@DoorMatt @dannyjimmy I agree. Greiss was the available backup I thought seemed like best value, and Comeau is an underrated shutdown winger who actually posted a strong shot attempt differential against difficult opposition last year--something the Penguins really missed. 

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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NYR signed Glass for three years, $4.35 million ($1.45 per year) lol

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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In his last act as a Pittsburgh Penguin, Orpik royally screws the Capitals for $27.5 million and adds little to no help to their terrible defense. Bless you Orpik, love you forever my Penguin. 

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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@dmacpgh No one will take Scud

3 months ago on Conversation @ http://thepensblog.com/

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