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I almost did not read the article, but it was a slow day. But, glad I did, it got me curious, especially since my team blew it this weekend, to see how Texas fans were handling all this. It was hilarious to go through some of the Longhorn websites. Most teams look forward to the prospect of a 9-3 season, but these guys are in meltdown mode because they lost one game, and that's just not up to their standards. Of course, they do have to look forward to Baylor (which is salivating to make up for past insults at the hands of Texas), and OU, and ........
It dawned on me however, that most of them are really just not looking forward to suffering through the kind of in your face pounding from other fan bases that they have had so much fun dishing out. I thought that was a shame, cause most fan bases have developed a sense of humor about having a string of so-so years,and have learned to deal with it with humor.
If you want to see a fan base that knows how to dish it out, and take it, no matter what their record is, I give you the fans of Ole Miss. Since they are playing Texas this week, and are not at all guaranteed success, I looked at their fan sites. The difference is remarkable. Hotty Totty, those (whatever the former Rebels nickname is today) guys can talk some smack, and they just came off the kind of season the Longhorns are dredding.
Got me thinking, maybe a few good ole fashioned trips to the woodshed will help Texas fans get a grip. And I had a terrible week football wise, Georgia won (groan) and the Gators lost (groan). No Gator website I went to this weekend said we should boycott the team, give up on this season or any other such foolishness. Next week, the team will suit up again and we'll do the Gator Chomp.
Oh, and Ole Miss, here is to hoping you turn Austin upside down.
3 months ago on The Power Shift In Texas Continues At BreakNeck Speed
I had a different take on the USC game. Their defense looked beat (tired) starting in the early 2d quarter. That is not good news for the team. Hard to fix a conditioning problem that bad in short order. I was not all that impressed with their offense, which was facing a D line that gave up over 50 lbs per position. Clooney looked awful, getting beat by the NC line for the entire first half. Not an impressive start, but Spurrier is a crafty guy, so won't count them out, yet. But not an impressive start, if your goal is a division championship.
3 months, 2 weeks ago on Carolina Rolls, Ole Miss Nips Vandy In A Music City Shootout
I like Ole Miss and Vandy to improve a game better in the win column than they each did last year. A&M I think is a 9 win team this year. Everybody else outside of the top three I'm throwing my arms up.
3 months, 2 weeks ago on MrSEC.com 2013 Opening Power Rankings
Thanks for the links. Read them all this morning. Good Bull Hunting has some funny stuff on it, but have yet to see an article over there on Manziel that was not conspiracy theory based. I see a lot of "ESPN hates us" over there. Interesting, see some of that at Alligator Army too. ESPN most hate a lot of schools.
3 months, 2 weeks ago on As Its Investigation Winds Down, NCAA Officials Meet With A&M’s Manziel
Yeah, I think you nailed it. Before I type the rest of this, my bias is 1) I think Manziel did sign stuff for people he knew were going to make money off it (an NCAA violation) and 2) most likely got paid for some of it. I do not think those are huge violations, but they are violations.
Now, I've read and heard three different opinions today on who probably benefits the most from this deposition (and I think it was a deposition that ran for 6 hours). Most of the opinions run the "both sides were protecting their rears" thread, assuming the NCAA was just doing this to say they had done all they could to investigate the charges, which is the best they could do absent supena powers.
You're the first to mention the "cover up is worse than the crime." angle. That's the one I'd be most afraid of if I was a Manziel fan. I'll admit up front that I'm a former Manziel fan, after the stupidity and immaturity displayed by the guy this summer I just can't get excited about the guy, but don't take this as an "I hope he gets burned," post. Its not. My interest now is sort of tangential, looking to see the character of the guy.What I would hope would have happened (and it probably did not), was the NCAA would have started off saying, "If you did it and own up to it, we'll give you a two game suspension and 100 Hail Mary's," and then we could see what Manziel would do. Since my bias is I think he did the signings for a payoff, the best that would have come from this is a couple of game suspension. He did it, fessed up, took his medicine, then I'd be impressed.
If he denied it all, and he's innocent, God Bless him, I got it wrong. But after listening to him at SEC Media Days, there just is a lingering suspicion he just might not get it all right in a deposition. Hope that is not the case, but the last sentence in your post is what I'd be worried about if I was an Manziel guy.
3 months, 2 weeks ago on Report: A&M’s Manziel Denied Taking Money For Autographs, But Could His Interview Have Given The NCAA With A New Option?
@Jamesgoss That Sharp is not controlled by Texas A&M has nothing to do with the import of what he says, to those listening. Exactly the opposite. Texas A&M is part of the Texas A&M University system, and Sharp is a Chancellor in that system. He is paid over $507,000 a year in his position, over $50,000 a year more than the president of Texas A&M University. To the world outside listening, he sounds a lot like a state official, who is paid a lot of money by the taxpayer, to oversee things that happen within the system, and who has considerable leverage inside the system (that would include Texas A&M itself), and who is spouting off with an opinion about an issue before the University. My point still stands, he is not making things any better by opening his mouth and attacking a reporter for smoking grass and writing a story critical of his pet quarterback.
3 months, 3 weeks ago on Texas A&M Chancellor Not Happy With ESPN’s Rovell
I remember when the schedule came out last year, how everybody said A&M was going to do so much worse than Mizzou in their first year, as the East was going to be tougher than the West , blah, blah, blah. We went to College Station and got out of there with a W only because Sumlin called timeout just as his kicker tied the game, nullifiying the kick. We went home saying those guys were a damn good football team and warned the others going up against them that things were not as advertised in the preseason.
Mizzou, well we know the story, but the overall point is that SEC schedules can rotate on a single play, in more than one game. The Gamecocks almost got their heads handed to them by a surprisingly good Vandy team, A&M beat out Ole Miss in the last seconds of the game, LSU lost to Bams in the last seconds of that game, and Bama almost beats A&M in the last seconds of that game. And that was just what was happening in the West.
3 months, 3 weeks ago on That Didn’t Take Long: Whines About “Unfair” SEC Schedule in 2014 Begin
Rovell may be (but not saying he is), a real slouch of a reporter; lazy, not getting his facts straight in 1 to 100 articles, getting duped,etc, etc, etc, but Mr Sharp is being rediculously irresponsible or at best naive by attacking him, in any way, on the article that got all this started. There are three simple reasons why:
1. Johnny Manziel is most likely guilty of doing something wrong here, and even if he does not get nailed on this, he is a loose cannon on deck. Even if the NCAA does not investigate, there is the appearance of impropriety, the breaking of team rules by having unauthorized guests in his room on the Alabama trip, the multiple, and I mean multiple, contacts with people known to engage in autograph selling, and the list goes on. For a senior university official to move from neutral (lets get all the facts in before we make a statement to the public) to attacking the credibility of a reporter (and not on the merits of the specific case, but on the guy smoking grass), puts his own credibility, and A&M's, in question should this escalate. And since we all have seen Manziel doing juvenile and stupid things all summer, there is a real possibility something else is going to pop up, the Board members at A&M should keep their powder dry. If the proverbial hits the fan, no truely independent news outlet or reporter is going to give much of a bump to a guy who not only got it wrong, but attacked the reporter who got it right, no matter how wrong that reporter has been in the past.
2. A&M is known for having an astoundingly good public relations department. Why, when you have some of the best in the business at controlling information, would you cowboy up and put out uncoordinated statements on a very, very hot button issue? That is just not smart, and makes the pro's in the communications departmernt's job that much harder later on.
3. It just keeps the issue from dying down. The more you draw attention to it, the more guys like John Pennington are going to pound on the issue. Mr Pennington's job is to analyze and publish on all things sport in the SEC. Guess what, if Mr Sharp keeps talking about it, Mr Pennington (and thousands of other reporters) are going to analyze what he just said, and in this case, shoot holes in what he just said.
The most dangerous thing for Manziel and A&M right now is Johnny Manziel. You can disagree with parts of point number 1 above, but if you disagree with the part about Manziel being a loose cannon, you may have maroon colored lenses on. I don't have anything against him, but I think he is a self centered, immature young man who has the potential for doing really stupid things. And that means Mr Sharp, that there is a real possibility Manziel could make you look foolish in the end.
Well, now that I have actually read the possible penalties here (thanks MRSEC for linking to something on that), it looks like the NCAA understands this is a difficult issue and the penalties are not as severe as I thought. Just as a side note, and just because I think the NCAA realizes this autograph problem is a very, very wide stream with a very large number of people putting their toes in, the NCAA today announced it is no longer selling player related products through its web site. I think the NCAA might see this as related to the whole compensation for players issue, and the Manziel case will be the catalyst for refinements (don't take that to mean they will roll over, but as this site has pointed out, there is a debate being surfaced by big names in at least two conferences on players and compensation).
4 months ago on Johnny Manziel Family Hires Lawyer; Attorney Has NCAA Experience
@John at MrSEC @j_scott_o And, to be fair, the "1,000 posts like this a year is probably", a little low, I read more than a few blogs, and yeah, its a little thick out there.
4 months, 1 week ago on Coaches Afraid Their Players Could Follow In Manziel’s Footsteps (Clowney Items All Over eBay)
@John at MrSEC @BonzaiB @j_scott_o You are correct, you did not say it was that, a poor choice of words to end a post.
@j_scott_o Yeah, I went over to Good Bull, and have spent a hour looking for the "trying to bring down Clowney" stuff, and I took away sort of what you did. I think the article was more directed at showing how widespread the practice of floating autographs is, and that was pretty much how the comments were going. I got the sense most of the posters think Manziel did it, but a squirming around the edges on whether there is enough that is legal to get him suspended. Hardly a hatchet job.
Well, it is beginning to look more and more like Manziel is probably guilty of some of this, if not all. Even if the NCAA has trouble proving it (and I really do not think they will have much of a problem doing just that), there is too much smoke here. Video recordings, whether admissible in court or not, clearly show JM signing lots of identical items for a single person. That's a huge red flag right there, and the NCAA knows, whether it can prove it right away or not, that the guy did it. And the number of "brokers" he did it with seems to be more than two. Brokers are, for lack of a better descriptor, low rent (not major league low rent dwellers, but low rent non the less). If one tried to sell some info to a network, the others are seriously thinking about it. There are now two videos out there, which means JM was stupid. Some of you are going to say, "You can't prove that!", but the reality is we know he was doing it and so does the NCAA. Knowing and proving are two different things, but once you KNOW, and you have the resources of the NCAA, it will not be long before this is done and done.
I suspect that with the speed with which this is developing that more than one of these "brokers" are looking for ways to cash in before one of the others beats them to it. Sumlin and A&M will know sooner rather than later if JM is most likely guilty and is a high risk for being convicted as guilty by the NCAA. The ruling may take more than a couple of months, but Sumlin and Co will know within a week or so, if not already, if their boy is toast.
Fan of the Aggies, have been for a while, but Manziel, I think, was not only stupid enough to risk his career for a few pennies, but he was arrogant in thinking he was bullet proof. Hope I am wrong, really do, but I think we do not have to worry about Manziel repeating as the Heisman winner.
4 months, 1 week ago on A&M And Sumlin Have A Big Decision To Make Regarding Manziel
@the_voice @BonzaiB And I was not trying to project. I personally would not want a thug like Roethlisberger on my payroll, but it is what it is. I wish we could all go back to a time where things were not so elastic in our measurement of what is tolerable on the moral yardstick, but that train has left the station. I agree it is an absolutely different era. I would like to see the NCAA give coaches a bit more discression in doing those things that help a player develop as a person, as a recognition it is a different era, but that is not likely going to happen.
I saw an interview with Sumlin, where a reporter asked about regretts he had leaving Houston. He said something to the effect that the hardest thing he had to do was to talk to players who had been raised in foster homes, by single moms, etc, that he had recruited, that he was leaving.
That made me think that in todays' world, with all that is changing, an increase in the tools mentors have with this kids is what might help the most, not a legalistic maze that prevents contact during the off season. Have no idea if that is just wishful thinking.
4 months, 2 weeks ago on ESPN The Magazine Tackles Manziel Mania
@bigreb @BonzaiB @the_voice Now you are just being rediculous, exagerating everything being said. If you're going to be a sanctimonious tool taking every thing written out of context so you can can argue rather thasn discuss, you are not worth the effort.
@Tusk @the_voice @BonzaiB You are absolutely correct, and Bryant, if he were alive and coaching today, would be able to do that again, as could Coach X, Y or Z. But what I was talking about was the ability of a coach to do something about stupid, not illegal, behavior during the OFF season. Namath broke team rules during a season (nothing illegal) and was disciplined for it. Good call coach, but a player in the off season cannot be contacted by a coach and counseled about most of his behavior. I am sure that Namath was counseled by the Alabama staff during that time, so he understood why his behavior was not good for himself, the team or the institution. And to the institutions credit, the Bear's credit, and to Namath's credit, the counseling was effective enough it was taken to heart. That's mentoring at a very effective level.
If a player commits a crime at anytime, he can be dismissed, etc., but what a lot of people seem to be saying is that somehow Sumlin and Co are negligent for not reigning Manziel in during the summer. The problem for Sumlin is there is not much he is ALLOWED to do by NCAA rules during the off season. He certainly could not have called Manziel in for a heart to heart after Cancun, the NCAA would have gone ape all over the A&M program.
So, my point was that under today's rules, coaches are not ALLOWED to mentor players like coaches could during Bryant's era, specifically in the off season. Now, is it possible for a team to come up with a code of conduct that impacts players at all times, even in the off season, that covers more than illegal activities? I have no idea, but it would be a stretch, I would think.
@bigreb @BonzaiB @the_voice You missed my point, I did not compare Manziel to Vick and company, rather that was in response to "no billion dollar enterprise would want someone like Manziel as its face." Not even close to comparing his behavior to anothers as a rationalization for conduct. Again, that point was about the behavior of NFL teams and their hiring practices, not Manziels. Sorry you missed that. And families are complex. I bet if I wandered through just about any modern family's internal workings (including yours), there would be a bunch of denials and blaming going on. And bringing Manson into this is just wierd.
@the_voice @BonzaiB All attempts to relate things back to a previous era beg the differences. When Bryant was coaching at Bama, for years he refused to recruit black players, there was no such thing as twitter, internet, cell phone cameras, and there was a much more circumspect press (Bryant drank quite a bit, routinely during radio interviews, and no one said a thing about it. What would happen today if that happened on ESPN?) which allowed that guys were going to be guys.
NCAA rules today prohibit coaches from dealing with players during the off season. When people say "Bryant would have done things differently, or Sumlin, Muschamp, Miles, Franklin, et al, should control their players," remember the NCAA has draconian rules that limit the contact a coach, or any member of the school's athletic department, can have with a player in the off season. For most of Bryant's time, there were no such restrictions. Bryant coached during a time where a coach had many, many more options for influencing the behavior of a player. Today, a coach has a legal staff just to interpret the consequences of a phone call to a student with a, "knock it off for your own good," piece of advice during periods the NCAA says a coach cannot even have a casual conversation with a player if they meet at Walmart during the off season.
Its a different era. Manziel is the first Joe Namath type character we have seen in college ball for years, completely independent, a rich kid with amazing talent who does not need the scholarship, a partier, a bit of a loose canon, the Heisman winner, etc, and all this in the age of an exponential increase in social media and the technology that enables it. Watch for more of this, its gonna happen, Manziel is just the current lightening rod. And if Bryant was coaching today, he could not do a thing about it during the summer, and probably would not even attempt to. Remember, when it became necessary to recruit black players later on, Bryant simply said, "I was wrong, now we will recruit black players." Coaches adapt to win.
And football teams, like the New England Patriots, have a history of not only hiring one, but dozens of players with faces much worse than Manziel. Ever hear of Ben Roethlisberger? Multiple sexual assualt charges. Not partying, but MULTIPLE SEXUAL ASSAULT charges, battery, etc. And he is the face of a billion dollar franchise. Fans love him. Michael Vick? There are many others. The NFL averages over 1/3 of its players at one time or another charged with, or having been convicted of, felonies. The only thing that will limit Manziel's NFL chances are the evaluatioin of how he fits into a particular team's system (ala Tebow).
I think the Swamp's decline in numbers shows there needs to be a rethink. It is obvious we have a huge number of students who want to go to games, but are stuck with a lottery system that restricts students to a smaller footprint than is now available. Perhaps one way to solve part of this problem is to enlarge the student section. The overall problem is pricing. It's a 360 mile trip to G'ville from my house, and to get the whole game day experience, I really need a hotel room for 4. That's two rooms at almost $200 bucks for the night, parking, meals and then the OMG price for decent tickets, and they are outrageous (all that costs me well over a grand to go to a decent game with the family). I used to go to every home game, then we won the NC. Prices went through the roof and we cut back to one primo game and one cupcake. Now, the cup cake is what we can afford, and that is less worth the effort than it used to be. Money is an alum's biggest problem these days, so pile more students in and fill the stadium.
4 months, 2 weeks ago on SEC Football Attendance Declines For Three Straight Years, But…
I remember a number of sites predicting A&M would get beat like a borrowed mule in the SEC, not here, but they were out there. A very large number of Big 12 hometown newspapters predicted A&M would not only fail, but would be begging to come back. Sites that looked at resources available to programs seemed to be kinder to A&M's prospects than Missouri's. None of my Aggie buds predicted anything like this last season, most were praying for an 8-5 season. Sumlin is interesting, but even if he were interested in the NFL, he would not be able to admit it right now. No coach would. If the NFL came looking for Muschamp, he'd say the same thing, and would then evaluate what his options looked like. We all would. Saban did not advertise he was considering Alabama when he was at LSU, or own Urban took a very strange exit out of UF, and we are still scratching our heads on how rediculous the "want to be with my family and I have health problems" schtick now sounds in retrospect.
Nope, no sitting college coach with a brain will tell a fan base he would consider a move, anywhere.
4 months, 2 weeks ago on A&M’s Sumlin Once Again Shoots Down NFL Talk