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@boulderclimbr @Evil Taco  What you've got is a larger culture which prizes specifically "conquering" Chomolungma.

This visiting source of livelihood or revenue has changed the lives of many Sherpa.

Ueli and Simone sought to challenge themselves in a way less common than when mountaineers first hired the Sherpa to assist them, and it is common for humans to generalise and stereotype strangers, in relatively anonymous or saturated populations. Those heuristics are also common to other animals, and we cannot completely shed this kind of cognition.

For instance, you yourself were once a "nube." So such denigration by generalisation is quickly shown to be inaccurate.

Evil taco is dead on I think, when distilling bouldr's comments down to amateurs, in the sense that they are not involved with climbing for the same reason as previous to the industry's existence.

I remember when pros traveled giving slide shows to make a bit of cash, before the huge seminars which gained some much more. Look to the corruption  resulting from business seminars telling anyone they can conquer all. I just saw the Wolf of Wall Street, which did not depart from the book written by the depicted trader. The hype portrayed is hardly exaggerated from real seminars.

Here I sit wearing some useful and beautiful garments with the Sherpa brand name on them. reckoning that namas te is the only appropriate comment. Sharing human traits, I find everyone's positions somewhere inside myself.

1 year ago on


@BedeA @boulderclimbr 

Sherpas have both been equal partners in ascending Everest and have both shared or done the hard safety work.

Does anyone remember that Ed Hillary felt that Tenzing Norgay was at least his equal, and without Tenzing, it would have not been the same - perhaps not done then?

Sherpas have not been the ones at fault for the crazed desire to "conquer" Everest/Chomolungma/Sagarmatha, but that began through the original European/American mountaineers talks and recordings of their climbs to appeal to wealthy and ambitious businesspeople. The insane popularity is a result of slide show "positive thinking" speeches paid for by corporations to get more from their employees, but instead those employees set this magnificent mountain as their goal, because one can walk no higher on Earth.

We must understand that mountaineers do this for the challenge and beauty of living.

Both the Sherpa and the other dedicated mountaineers are professionals. While I have climbed alone and privately for other reasons, I believe that both of you share something beautiful, beyond the understanding of those who focus upon impotent rage. 

Yes, many commentors fail to understand or value others, and it is easy to become angry when opinions of someone who was not there are voiced in such biased ways.

We are each on Earth only for a while, and never enough of our time is spent in the wonder, pure effort, and beauty of this place which has endured and will endure beyond the tiny lives of men.

Wherever our roots, our homes, our travels, we follow our way best when we salute the life and meetings of others.

This affair was unfortunate, as both parties were right, for their own purposes. The Sherpa know too many who have died from the mistakes of others, or accidents, and their opinions are of extreme value.

It has always been a great responsibility of those passing others to exert care for those below them.

I hope that both the Sherpa and the Swiss trio will continue and extend their mutual respect. I hope that all the ambitious who go to Chomolungma will learn that what they seek must also contain this ultimate respect.

1 year, 3 months ago on


I would suspect that an interesting use of trawling nets could be made in the heavier accumulation in the NP Gyre. Since a number of organisms live and/or reproduce there, it would be good to hear about their adaptation and the consequences of trash removal, if such a project could be created.

Incidentally, my brother reported to me the huge extent of plastics and other manufactured material during his passage through it more than a decade ago.

2 years, 11 months ago on Setting Sail on a Tsunami Debris Research Mission