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@dlbu dlbu E @Mattmark No-one's after Nonis to dump assets.  What I'm assuming we'd all like to see is him develop some creativity in acquiring them at a reasonable price.

3 minutes ago on Deadline passes with core largely in tact

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@Cameron19 The fact remains that we're still lacking that 2nd... not an impossible sort of asset to acquire, you would have thought (other teams manage it).  We're supposedly in rebuild mode now, pursuing picks, and, having already dealt away the players who performed best for us this year, have only two of the first sixty or so in the coming draft (one of which is ours by default).

We can transfer our hopes to the summer, but there's scant reason to believe our wish-fulfillment fantasies of management brilliance are going to receive kinder treatment then.

5 minutes ago on Deadline passes with core largely in tact

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@Cameron19 Thought that might be the reason you didn't weigh in on draft day.  Sounds like you'd be better off where you are even if weren't true that you're not missing much here.  The team itself has become basically unwatchable...

17 minutes ago on Deadline passes with core largely in tact

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@Claymish @Mattmark Yeah, I get all that.  But Nonis couldn't persuade a Cup contender Kessel could do for them what Gaborik did for L.A. last year?  He couldn't turn Bozak into that 2nd-round pick we still need?

24 minutes ago on Deadline passes with core largely in tact

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@Cameron19 And the notion that other teams will chase our 'quality players' with more enthusiasm than they've shown up to now is based on what?

Summer is shaping up to be like winter.  If we want to force bargains on other teams, I'm sure they'll respond positively.  Getting those teams to value our guys as highly as Nonis apparently still does seems considerably more problematic.

Are you back from Costa Rica?

28 minutes ago on Deadline passes with core largely in tact

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Grange's reaction to Nonis's claims...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/maple-leafs-long-rebuild-slow-deadline/

...is pretty much what mine was.  If it's true that other teams admire and desire our 'quality players,' why did none of this burning interest manifest itself yesterday?

48 minutes ago on Deadline passes with core largely in tact

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@rockydundas @Pinky12 OMG!  You have the nerve to preach patience to anyone in this fan base???

20 hours, 3 minutes ago on Maple Leafs trade Olli Jokinen to St. Louis for Joakim Lindstrom & conditional sixth round pick

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@KingTon @zoidbergman For that 2nd round pick.  Should've been easy...

20 hours, 7 minutes ago on Maple Leafs trade Olli Jokinen to St. Louis for Joakim Lindstrom & conditional sixth round pick

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@Reether @zoidbergman The great 'tomorrow' management team.

Can't wait for the usual Nono excuses in the press conference.  Was there ever a GM who out-excelled him in painting himself as a victim of circumstances?

20 hours, 9 minutes ago on Maple Leafs trade Olli Jokinen to St. Louis for Joakim Lindstrom & conditional sixth round pick

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@dlbu dlbu E @Mattmark Yes, there's always the promise of tomorrow.  Again.

20 hours, 19 minutes ago on Maple Leafs trade Olli Jokinen to St. Louis for Joakim Lindstrom & conditional sixth round pick

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@dlbu dlbu E @Mattmark But he can't okay what isn't presented for his consideration.

20 hours, 20 minutes ago on Maple Leafs trade Olli Jokinen to St. Louis for Joakim Lindstrom & conditional sixth round pick

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@North Kariya  @Jay_Berg It would take a genius to understand how we're getting our money's worth out of a GM who shows no more sign of knowing how to tip situations in his favour than any poster here.

20 hours, 20 minutes ago on Maple Leafs trade Olli Jokinen to St. Louis for Joakim Lindstrom & conditional sixth round pick

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@Jay_Berg I'd prefer Nonis got us back that 2nd rounder we lost.  Can't be that impossible... other teams seem to manage it.

20 hours, 23 minutes ago on Maple Leafs trade Olli Jokinen to St. Louis for Joakim Lindstrom & conditional sixth round pick

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So, now we get to hear yet another, 'We couldn't see anything that was a good fit for the team,' from a GM who's paid big bucks to be creative, persuasive and forceful enough to manufacture fits when they don't happen to fall nicely into his lap?

20 hours, 25 minutes ago on Maple Leafs trade Olli Jokinen to St. Louis for Joakim Lindstrom & conditional sixth round pick

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@ndkkdn @Bruffins The kind of grit we need in the dressing room.  Draft him!

21 hours, 1 minute ago on Deadline Thread II: Dion Phaneuf to Detroit Rumours

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@colino17 Bombshell news, that.

21 hours, 2 minutes ago on Deadline Thread II: Dion Phaneuf to Detroit Rumours

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Laugh now, but what if OJ scores the goal that eliminates the Preds from the Cup hunt?

21 hours, 4 minutes ago on Deadline Thread II: Dion Phaneuf to Detroit Rumours

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@ConnorCrisp @Luke_R Wonder what a Brian Leetch Leafs jersey goes for these days.

21 hours, 6 minutes ago on Deadline Thread II: Dion Phaneuf to Detroit Rumours

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If someone pulls a rabbit out of the hat and Bozak gets traded too, does Carrick finish the season with the Leafs?

21 hours, 9 minutes ago on Deadline Thread II: Dion Phaneuf to Detroit Rumours

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@Luke_R The one thing that was sure to happen.

21 hours, 10 minutes ago on Deadline Thread II: Dion Phaneuf to Detroit Rumours

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@Radar O'Rielly @mcloki No.  Not to any player.

1 day, 2 hours ago on 2015 Trade Deadline Open Thread

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@mcloki Let's just hope we don't have to hear,

'Well, we talked to a lot of teams... but nothing made sense.'

1 day, 2 hours ago on 2015 Trade Deadline Open Thread

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Come on, Nonis... don't make us sit through another trade day of frustrated anticipation and then say tonight, 'Well, we talked to a lot of teams, but nothing made sense.'

You're paid to be creative and persuasive--to make something make sense--not to report back that no-one dropped anything in your lap that did.

1 day, 2 hours ago on 2015 Trade Deadline Open Thread

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@Wilbur @Mattmark @Brozak Only in the sense that he's competent enough not to really hurt your team in any way.  Won't help it spectacularly... but you can send him out in a lot of situations and be no worse than even.

1 day, 15 hours ago on GDT: Game #63, Toronto Maple Leafs at Washington Capitals (7 p.m., CityTV)

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@Wilbur @Brozak He may be the most average guy in the whole league.  Adequate at most things, excels at none.

1 day, 15 hours ago on GDT: Game #63, Toronto Maple Leafs at Washington Capitals (7 p.m., CityTV)

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@Mitch92 @Dan39 Rags just added a guy who skates rings around Phaneuf to an already pretty good defense.

1 day, 15 hours ago on GDT: Game #63, Toronto Maple Leafs at Washington Capitals (7 p.m., CityTV)

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Check that... we were enough in the news earlier this year to get Carlyle fired.

1 day, 15 hours ago on GDT: Game #63, Toronto Maple Leafs at Washington Capitals (7 p.m., CityTV)

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With the trade deadline almost upon us, all of a sudden we're in the news!  As we aren't when it comes to the playoffs, or rating the chances of Cup contenders, or picking Team Canada.

Heady stuff!  Guess we've got to take our fun where we can find it... ;-)

1 day, 15 hours ago on GDT: Game #63, Toronto Maple Leafs at Washington Capitals (7 p.m., CityTV)

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@mr_hanie @Xxxxxnew Too late now.  These days fans are asking, if Philly can beat the Rangers, why can't they do us a favour and beat us?

1 day, 18 hours ago on Maple Leafs claim defenceman Tim Erixon

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@Komas Taberle @jayman87 If we draft 4th or 5th we've got our future #1 centre anyway.

1 day, 18 hours ago on Maple Leafs claim defenceman Tim Erixon

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Don't think we're getting another 1st (unless we deal Kessel)... but we need that 2nd-rounder, guys.

1 day, 18 hours ago on Maple Leafs claim defenceman Tim Erixon

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@Dan39 @Mattmark Not that easy to stint on the quality of your product when raising ticket prices to see it.

1 day, 20 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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@Dan39 @Mattmark I suppose... but in the meantime don't you have to make some gesture to the fans who are paying to watch the pro games?

1 day, 20 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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@Dan39 @Mattmark Bad goal-tending is pretty tough to watch, though.  And I'm not sure how much it does for the confidence of the young players you're hoping to assemble in front of it.

1 day, 20 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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@Dan39 @Mattmark Well, if you want to tank for several seasons, there's no doubt mediocre goal-tending is the most sure-fire guarantee.

1 day, 20 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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@flappypaddle I doubt he feels that secure.  No Leaf does these days...

1 day, 20 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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@flappypaddle He's not stupid.  How much money can he ask after the season the team has had?

1 day, 20 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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@FrycersGhost @Mattmark But Bernier isn't a mistake.  It's much easier to see him as part of a rebuild than Reimer.

1 day, 20 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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Trade-wise, Bernier is the jewel in Nonis's crown.  I don't think there's any way he hangs onto Reimer instead of him.

1 day, 21 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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@HHT @Nylanderthal @peterbleafs If tanking is the aim, there's no better way to achieve it than through incompetence in net.  It doesn't matter how much talent is assembled in front of an inept goalie.

1 day, 21 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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@HHT @Mattmark The autograph would pry a 4th out of Nonis.

1 day, 21 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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Kessel is an Olympic-level athlete.  He was drafted fifth, has scored 30 or more goals five times (his shortened season pace would have made it six), and is still only 27 years old.  What would be a fair return for him?

1 day, 21 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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@vinoa @ProfessorRance Oops... sorry.  My cat jumped on my lap, pawed the keyboard and sent my half-finished reply who knows where.  I'm sorry we were at cross-purposes, below, especially since I doubt our attitudes to stats differ all that significantly.  The notion that using stats amounts to using our eyes, one step removed, seems to me relatively non-controversial... but it's not worth fighting over.  Trades, not stats, are the order of the day here, so let's get back to the former and enjoy ourselves, and I apologize if I've made that more difficult for you.

1 day, 21 hours ago on Game 62 Scoring Chances: Canadiens 4 vs. Maple Leafs 0

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