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@loomx @Mattmark @Leafs_WP No-one's arguing with the math.  That doesn't change the fact that management is gambling we end up saying 'The cheaper alternatives turned out to be bargains,' instead of, 'We got exactly what we paid for.' 

15 hours, 42 minutes ago on (Thursday Mashup) David Booth: Another low-risk option with upside potential

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@Leafs_WP @Mattmark We can't really count Komarov as a new addition.  He's a guy we already had who missed a year, just the same as if he'd been hurt.  We pretty much know what he brings.

You really are 'rolling the dice' when you bet against the collective financial judgment of an entire league of employers about what their employees are worth.  All we can say for certain is that the present roster is cheaper.  What we earnestly HOPE is that we end up getting more than our money's worth... and maybe in a couple of cases we will.  But the odds are obviously heavily stacked against this happening across the board with all our signings. 

17 hours, 54 minutes ago on (Thursday Mashup) David Booth: Another low-risk option with upside potential

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@MaxwellHowe I think you're always looking ahead but also always revising.

18 hours, 4 minutes ago on (Thursday Mashup) David Booth: Another low-risk option with upside potential

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@Cameron19 As good an argument as you'll ever see for not 'trading up,' since there was no consensual pre-draft support for that final combination.

18 hours, 6 minutes ago on (Thursday Mashup) David Booth: Another low-risk option with upside potential

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@MaxwellHowe Actually, he was a step behind the play for the entire final series against the Kings a couple years ago.

18 hours, 16 minutes ago on (Thursday Mashup) David Booth: Another low-risk option with upside potential

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In the 'Departures' list, the two we could end up missing the most are Kulemin and McClement.  Sometimes, guys aren't really appreciated until after they're gone and their taken-for-granted contributions become unplugged holes.

18 hours, 19 minutes ago on (Thursday Mashup) David Booth: Another low-risk option with upside potential

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@MaxwellHowe @Mattmark @KurtWhite You can change 'if' to 'when' in that analysis.  The odds of all six of our d-men going through the season injury-free are near-enough zero.

1 day, 18 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Dubas Mania

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@MaxwellHowe @Mattmark @KurtWhite One can hope.  But true depth results in competition for jobs.  All six of our NHL d-men are guaranteed roster spots, plus at least one Marlie has to make the jump.  The truth is, we're still pretty thin everywhere.

1 day, 18 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Dubas Mania

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@NinetyThree @Mattmark @Dangle_My_Berries More like putain...

1 day, 19 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Dubas Mania

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@Dangle_My_Berries On Putin, I hope.

1 day, 19 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Dubas Mania

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@MaxwellHowe @Mattmark @KurtWhite When you're counting on your AHL team to supply your seventh NHL d-man, it's a bit absurd to speak of 'depth.'

1 day, 19 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Dubas Mania

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@KurtWhite Our flurry of recent signings has given some people here the impression that we now have 'depth.'  Really?  We've got a grand total of six NHL d-men under contract (Phaneuf, Rielly, Gardiner, Franson, Robidas and Polak).  Anyone else is going to have to come from the Marlies.

1 day, 19 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Dubas Mania

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@CanuckUKinToronto @NinetyThree 

Roses are red

Violets are blue

Sometimes it rhymes

But this time it doesn't


1 day, 19 hours ago on Wednesday Mashup: Dubas Mania

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@The_Polish_Cannon @Mattmark From any other team?  If the Hawks lose Toews they have Kane, Hossa and Sharp.  If the Kings lose Kopitar, they've got Carter, Gaborik, Richards and Dustin Brown.  If the Pens lose Crosby they have Malkin, Kunitz and Sutter.  If the Bruins lose Bergeron they have Krejci, Lucic and Marchand.  And before you turn up your nose at Marchand he had 53 points last year.  Reilly Smith had 51 and Soderberg 48.  Leafs would be thrilled if their lesser lights had numbers like that!  What the Bruins, Kings, Hawks and other upper-tier teams have is known as depth, and it's futile to pretend we have it when we're relying on Matt Frattin to be a second- or third-line winger.  (This isn't even taking into account the imposter we continue to masquerade as a first-line centre!)

2 days, 16 hours ago on Kyle Dubas: 5 Takeaways on the Leafs most recent hire

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@DeclanK @Mattmark @Burtonboy @Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Er, speaking of weak arguments, all but one of the players you list were on the team last year.  If you think this group carries the puck with the best in the league I can only infer that you somehow managed not to catch a single playoff series this past spring.

The argument of mine you should have inferred is that Dubas is an analyst: he can only record what happens.  He can't influence it in any way, whatever his preferences happen to be.

2 days, 17 hours ago on Kyle Dubas: 5 Takeaways on the Leafs most recent hire

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@wiski @Mattmark @DeclanK @Hifi75 They can, but it's likelier that their mobility will be spread around since they're the only two that have any to speak of.

2 days, 17 hours ago on Kyle Dubas: 5 Takeaways on the Leafs most recent hire

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@DeclanK @Hifi75 Not to mention that it takes years for most defensive units to gel, and ours is basically starting from scratch with some new personnel and not a single pairing set from last year.  Expect plenty of mistakes.

2 days, 17 hours ago on Kyle Dubas: 5 Takeaways on the Leafs most recent hire

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@Burtonboy @DeclanK @Bon Scott was a Leaf fan Unless Dubas can play centre, the influence of his preference for 'carrying the puck into the offensive zone' will be zero.  Every team in the league would love to have personnel capable of doing that.

2 days, 18 hours ago on Kyle Dubas: 5 Takeaways on the Leafs most recent hire

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An insightful analysis.  Thank you.

Re: "...and piles of evidence to suggest that the Leafs are one Jonathan Bernier injury away from being a lottery team."

I've been thinking the same thing myself.  I'm glad we have a resilient fan base that's capable of optimism, but if we lost any one of Bernier, Kessel, JVR, Kadri, Phaneuf or Rielly for any length of time it could spell curtains.  Last year we faltered without Bozak!

So much for our supposed depth...

2 days, 18 hours ago on Kyle Dubas: 5 Takeaways on the Leafs most recent hire

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@4evrblue @Mattmark @Mcost61 @theacs1966 I don't know what you're arguing about.  Of course it's a depth signing--quantitatively.  This does nothing to address the quality question, which is what will determine whether this group of players gets us into the playoffs.  For that to happen, they will have to contribute a lot more than the teams that were willing to let them go judge them capable of doing... and they'll have to do it across the board, not just one or two of them.  I don't like the odds, but the season will tell us.

2 days, 20 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@4evrblue @Mattmark @Mcost61 @theacs1966 You're entitled to your IMO, but in the opinion of the rest of the league these guys aren't worth more than they're getting paid, which in relative terms is peanuts.  The top brass is gambling that many of them will exceed expectations and prove to be bargains, but there's nothing in most of their resumes that suggests this is very likely to happen.  'Depth' is more than just an inflated number of contracts and bodies.  Successful franchises regard it as a stockpiling of proven ability.

2 days, 21 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@newkb @Mattmark @theacs1966 @Mcost61 ...just as you can presumably understand that the contract he ended up with is a more realistic assessment of what can be expected from him.

2 days, 21 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@4evrblue @Mattmark @Mcost61 @theacs1966 Since everyone would agree that the quantity is a lot more apparent in that list of names than the quality, aren't you simply confirming what I said?

2 days, 21 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@newkb @Mattmark @theacs1966 @Mcost61 Every contract is, in effect, a gamble, but it's a lot more apparent with the ones we've been handing out than it is for established players whose teams actually want them.

2 days, 21 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@theacs1966 @Mattmark @Mcost61 They say experience is the school of fools.  Are you suggesting that our most astute analyses don't even amount to foolishness?  ;-)

2 days, 21 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@theacs1966 @Mattmark @Mcost61 Optimism has its place, but when we're forced to take the rosiest possible view of every single signing gamble we've made, we're starting to talk some unrealistically long odds.  (But if you suggest this, you're 'negative.')

2 days, 21 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@Mcost61 @theacs1966 The notion that these retreads provide us with 'depth' is a might fanciful.  We've assembled quantity on the cheap but if there's much quality there, other teams no better than us couldn't see it.  What if Frattin ends up disappointing?  Everybody seems to be expecting him to fill a second or, at worst, a third line role.  What's our fallback if that doesn't happen?

2 days, 21 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@Cameron19 @Mattmark You're remembering the Lupul of three years ago.  I'd like to as well, but last season he was easily overhauled just about every time he tried a rush.

2 days, 21 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@Cameron19 @Mattmark They certainly don't have to plan for anything else, do they?  Put two and two together.  Teams generally find something positive to say about the opponents they're about to play, and fabricating stuff you can give us pats on the back for would tax the ingenuity of any coach.  Why not humour us?  After all, they know there are fans like you, and since it isn't an all-star competition nobody is going to time the skaters.

2 days, 21 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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What's with this ongoing "Leafs (are) considered to be the one of the fastest—if not the fastest—teams in the league" b.s.?  Considered by whom--the most delusional core of the fan base?  Apart from Gardiner and Rielly we have a lead-footed defence, and over the past two seasons we've lost Grabo, MacA, Kulie and Raymond--some of the best wheels we had (good thing we've at least regained Komorov).  Kessel is a jet, but no-one else on the team is close.  Bozak, Lupul and Kadri are NHL average at best, and Clarkson can't even keep up with the play.

Maybe this notion that we're especially speedy is a 'clutching at straws' reaction to the plain fact that we're inept at forechecking and board play.  The only time we can tell ourselves we look good is when Kessel or Gardiner is carrying the puck into the attacking zone.  But we rarely stay there long, and other teams come back at us just as fast.  When they do they're often able to play keep-away in our end for minutes at a time.  How is this possible if we're so quick?        

2 days, 23 hours ago on Leafs sign David Booth to a 1-year, $1.1 million contract

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@djamon @Mattmark Depends how arbitrarily you define 'recent.'  I had Carlyle and his Norris Trophy in mind, and Larry Murphy won Cups in Detroit after failing to stick with us.  These days the Bruins have a former goalie of ours who is of note, I believe.
 

3 days, 18 hours ago on Cody Franson Signs with Toronto Maple Leafs for 1 year, $3.3m

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@Yaknowwhat Yeah, I'm running a risk.  But there was a lot of speculation both players were hurt... and the way they played made the theory plausible.

3 days, 18 hours ago on Cody Franson Signs with Toronto Maple Leafs for 1 year, $3.3m

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@Yaknowwhat I think so.  But the problem with both of them was that they were defensive liabilities, unable to clear the zone with any consistency.

3 days, 18 hours ago on Cody Franson Signs with Toronto Maple Leafs for 1 year, $3.3m

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@Yaknowwhat On the basis of what we saw last year, you're right.  But none of us can read the future.  Suppose by the time the trade deadline rolls around he's outscoring Phaneuf and has a better +/-.  What happens then?

3 days, 18 hours ago on Cody Franson Signs with Toronto Maple Leafs for 1 year, $3.3m

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@Yaknowwhat He won't be traded if he turns things around defensively and scores fifty points.

3 days, 18 hours ago on Cody Franson Signs with Toronto Maple Leafs for 1 year, $3.3m

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@Yaknowwhat Look at it this way.  If he's the same or only marginally better, he's being paid what he's worth.  If it turns out he's sensational, then the top brass will be delighted to give him the dollars and security he's been dreaming about.

3 days, 18 hours ago on Cody Franson Signs with Toronto Maple Leafs for 1 year, $3.3m

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@Gilbey93 @Mattmark @CanuckUKinToronto @TheCanucksnaphook Used to be.  Not so much lately.  If you can shut out Messie, you're playing good defense! 

3 days, 18 hours ago on Cody Franson Signs with Toronto Maple Leafs for 1 year, $3.3m

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@jbman5 You're acquainted with our record, right?  We trade Franson and in two years he scores 55 points and finishes third in the Norris voting.

3 days, 18 hours ago on Cody Franson Signs with Toronto Maple Leafs for 1 year, $3.3m

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I know Franson isn't a fan favourite, and he can make some bonehead plays.  But he's just rising 27.  If he's like most defensemen, his most effective five years are beginning right now.  At the price he's signed for, he may well turn out to be a much better bargain than past performance would lead us to believe.

3 days, 19 hours ago on Cody Franson Signs with Toronto Maple Leafs for 1 year, $3.3m

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@lukethenuke @4evrblue @Murph2417 @Pent_House @mike_84 (??)  October 25, 2014: Leafs vs. Bruins.  Nylander carries puck across Bruins' blueline, cuts in front, eyes on net.  Chara ends his career before it's properly begun.

4 days, 19 hours ago on Weekend Mashup: $2.2 million apart

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@Bruffins @MaxwellHowe He was a genius until his concussion.

4 days, 20 hours ago on Weekend Mashup: $2.2 million apart

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@JMAC17 An affordable long-term deal with Gardiner would be ideal, even if Leafs subsequently decided to trade him.  (Of course, the hope would be that he plays so well a trade becomes unthinkable.)

5 days, 23 hours ago on The Cody Franson Arbitration: What is he Worth?

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If the Flyers or some other team did offer-sheet Franson and we didn't match, what kind of compensation (draft choices?) would come our way?

5 days, 23 hours ago on The Cody Franson Arbitration: What is he Worth?

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@LeafsGuru @Mattmark @ingy56 He outscored Kessel last year and was better defensively, so it can't be that...

1 week ago on Friday Mashup: 3 Unknowns Remain; Gord Dineen TSN1050 Interview

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@ingy56 I'm guessing there's a stainless steel cup under that jockstrap.  Still wouldn't want to try it.

1 week ago on Friday Mashup: 3 Unknowns Remain; Gord Dineen TSN1050 Interview

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@dlb Mad @Mattmark You can make your reservations known by insisting on paying for your next medical appointment.

1 week, 1 day ago on Maple Leafs re-sign Peter Holland to 2-year, $1.55 million deal

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@Pent_House @Mcost61 @dlb Mad @peterbleafs Ukrainian Russian separatists just shot down a Malaysian commercial airliner, killing nearly three hundred people.

1 week, 1 day ago on Maple Leafs re-sign Peter Holland to 2-year, $1.55 million deal

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