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@Radar O'Rielly @Mattmark @Yaknowwhat I'm of Irish descent myself.  I understand wanting to bring about political change and working to rectify what in retrospect can be seen as historical injustices (of which Muslims, by the way, have inflicted their fair share).  I don't understand the link between this and terrorism.  When you explode a bomb or shoot a gun, or fly a plane into the side of a building to kill SOMEBODY, you could just as easily be killing a friend and/or sympathizer as someone you've defined as an enemy.  What right do you have to deprive him of his life to make your point?  If you authorize this method of stating your grievances, how can you be sure that one day, when the world has been reorganized to your satisfaction, someone isn't going to come along and kill your son or daughter to make some point of his own?

1 day, 12 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@Cameron19 @Mattmark Having worked with Muslims my entire career I'm not prone to painting all of them with the same brush.  It doesn't follow that today's events can't be identified as belonging to the very large set of murders specifically indebted to Islamic ideologies and their extraordinarily wide range of non-negotiable maxims and grievances against the rest of the planet.  Indeed, the planet would have been very surprised to learn they were attributable to some other source.

1 day, 13 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@Radar O'Rielly @Mattmark @Yaknowwhat If our presence was really the problem we would expect to see all Muslims attacking the west and cutting off their perceived enemies' heads.  Yet, only a brutal minority does so.  It follows there must be other factors involved.

1 day, 13 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@TheLoovTrain @Mattmark I think it's a long, slow process of education.  There is, of course, a distinction between Islam and Jihadism, but the second is still a subset of the first.  Not all relationships are identity relationships. 

1 day, 13 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@Radar O'Rielly @Mattmark @Yaknowwhat I have no more insight into the neural short-circuitry that passes for thought in the mind of someone capable of the sad and pointless death inflicted today than you do.  What I'm suggesting is that whatever satisfaction you get from drawing simple causal lines, they bear little relation to what's happening on the ground.  Even if we ended up with a Caliphate in the Middle East, with all westerners evicted, that's no guarantee we wouldn't still see atrocities committed against western targets by religious extremists.

1 day, 13 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@Radar O'Rielly @Mattmark @Yaknowwhat That might make perfect sense to you, but according to the analyses I've seen it has very little to do with what motivates a jihadist.

1 day, 13 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@TheLoovTrain @Mattmark @Radar O'Rielly @Yaknowwhat There's only one solution to bad ideas; replace them with good ones.  The only sure way to stop an enemy is to turn him into a friend.

1 day, 13 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@TheLoovTrain @Mattmark @Yaknowwhat I still don't get your objection.  This particular disease doesn't have to come by plane or boat to be infectious.  It's still an import.  No-one else has ever been motivated to attack Canada's Parliament.

1 day, 13 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@Radar O'Rielly @Yaknowwhat Too simplistic by far, I'm afraid.  If it were simple cause and effect, unmediated by any other influences, everyone who ever had a grievance would wreak vengeance on his or her 'oppressor.'  There are some teachers I'd like to start with...

Face it, some people are prone to mayhem and any flag of convenience will do.  It's obvious that Muslims are currently doing a better job of exploiting this tendency than anyone else; world-wide they are at war with every other religion and with each other. 

1 day, 13 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@TheLoovTrain @Mattmark @Yaknowwhat (?)  This is the initial comment to which you are responding:

"Whatver twisted,evil idealogy is behind the shootings today needs to be eradicated at all costs..."

You are missing the point.  No imported disease, no infected 'enemy within.'


1 day, 14 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@wiski @Doorman They usually start with the victim's side, and the victim is usually a her...

1 day, 14 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@MaxwellHowe @wiski "I pulled her across the floor by her hair but I didn't hit her, your honour..."

1 day, 14 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@TheLoovTrain @Yaknowwhat You seem to be missing the point.  It's the ideology that's the import.  It has no Canadian roots whatsoever, even if it ends up infecting someone born here.

1 day, 14 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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I know we're supposed to be understanding and consider things from all points of view.  But, really, there are people on the planet who can't be integrated into any conceivable society whatsoever.  Their only role on earth is to see who they can hurt next.

1 day, 14 hours ago on Leafs-Sens Wednesday Night Game Postponed

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@Cameron19 @Mattmark You know better.  Not all Olympic-caliber defenders and all-stars play for Cup winning teams.  (Look at Karlsson...)
 

2 days, 12 hours ago on GDT: Game #7, Toronto Maple Leafs at New York Islanders (7 p.m., TSN4)

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@Cameron19 @Mattmark If the argument is that the less defense we have to play, the better the defense will look, there's no arguing with that.  Bit of a back-handed compliment, no?  ;-)

2 days, 12 hours ago on GDT: Game #7, Toronto Maple Leafs at New York Islanders (7 p.m., TSN4)

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@TheLoovTrain @Mattmark @Leafs_17 @In it to Winnik Sometimes it takes 55 minutes for us to run out of gas.

2 days, 12 hours ago on GDT: Game #7, Toronto Maple Leafs at New York Islanders (7 p.m., TSN4)

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@Cameron19 Uh, neither is the fact that Isles' defense leaves a lot to be desired.

2 days, 12 hours ago on GDT: Game #7, Toronto Maple Leafs at New York Islanders (7 p.m., TSN4)

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@Leafs_17 @In it to Winnik Can't count the number of games we would have won if they'd been forty minute games.

2 days, 12 hours ago on GDT: Game #7, Toronto Maple Leafs at New York Islanders (7 p.m., TSN4)

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You can't let him shoot from there!  ;-)


2 days, 12 hours ago on GDT: Game #7, Toronto Maple Leafs at New York Islanders (7 p.m., TSN4)

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@bigjim I'd trade Ashton for Hall.  I'm a real skinflint.

4 days, 21 hours ago on Game Review: Game #6, Red Wings 1 vs. Maple Leafs 0 (OT)

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@Bring the Cup Home If we won the Cup and outscored our opponents 9-1 in the final game, somebody here would regret it hadn't been 10-0.

4 days, 21 hours ago on Game Review: Game #6, Red Wings 1 vs. Maple Leafs 0 (OT)

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Funniest commentator line of the night: "Last couple of shifts, they [Leafs] were having some trouble coming out of their own end."

Right!  Like every zone exit hasn't been a struggle for the past several years.

4 days, 21 hours ago on Game Review: Game #6, Red Wings 1 vs. Maple Leafs 0 (OT)

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@T K O @Mattmark 'Equally hard' and 'too hard' don't sound like the kind of comparisons susceptible of very precise measurement.  The issue is whether Carlyle is getting the mileage expected out of the cast at his disposal.  The fact that he doesn't seem to have much of a reputation for being a 'players' coach' or a master psychologist has nothing to do with Cameron.

6 days, 15 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Wings back to back on deck

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@T K O @Mattmark I'm not suggesting he has an 'agenda.'  But if you want to subscribe to Cameron's notion that Carlyle sometimes misuses the pieces at his disposal, there is some evidence to support that view.

6 days, 15 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Wings back to back on deck

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@Jmessih @Chris Jay We've integrated too many newcomers into the lineup too quickly to make that kind of judgment possible at this stage.  There's no way we can have any who's going to be carrying the mail for us in February and March.

6 days, 15 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Wings back to back on deck

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@Cameron19 @T K O @loomx Now that Grabo is gone and there's no plausible alternative to Kadri at 2C, Gardiner seems to have become the target to jerk around.  Of course, Carlyle can still play Rielly on the wrong side and insist that Lupul play the wing he doesn't prefer.

6 days, 16 hours ago on Friday Mashup: Wings back to back on deck

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@Cameron19 @Mattmark @Yan28 You may have a point, but even if this plant could have been better cultivated it's clear it will never be an orchid.

6 days, 20 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@Yan28 @Cameron19 Good, diligent research.  I'm afraid Biggs has been given the opportunities his skills, performance in practice and stints on the ice have merited.

In contrast, no-one watches Nylander skate and stick-handle for more than 45 seconds and pencils him in for fourth-line duty.

6 days, 20 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@Ze_theLeafsFan @Cameron19 @Yan28 When you trade up you have to strike diamonds just to recover the ground you've surrendered.  Never play the longshots.

6 days, 20 hours ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@loomx @mtommy @BPsotka Parting with any of Gardiner, Kadri, Riley or Nylander makes a mockery of any supposed strategy of developing a young, skilled core or building for the future via the draft.  Staal first laced up the blades for the Canes when Kadri was twelve years old.  We not only need Gardiner, we need to retain the 2nd-round pick considered expendable in this proposed deal.

If Staal were 23 or 24, things would be different.  But he isn't. 

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@Burtonboy @Jmessih That closeup of Subban with his arm draped around Clarkson in a virtual headlock for ten long seconds is going to haunt me for ten years.

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@gottabe_KD @Mattmark @DeclanK @Potcy Oh, I don't know.  The evidence provided from watching the games has made (dis)believers of a lot of us.

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@Potcy @Mattmark And some are back in the AHL.  Gardiner skates rings around Franson, a player everyone in this forum still expects to be traded.

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@DeclanK @Mattmark @Potcy No-one's suggesting there isn't room for improvement in Gardiner's game.  On a team that picked where we did in the draft, that can be said of just about everyone on it. The two-fold question is how one goes about bringing this happy state of affairs about, and why the answer seems to be different in Gardiner's case than for anyone else of equivalent ability.

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@DeclanK @Potcy @Mattmark "Teams are skating it in on him, and dumping it in and retrieving it on him."

The same observation could be made of Phaneuf just about every shift he's on the ice.

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@Potcy @Mattmark I'm sure he'd settle for the leeway accorded Franson, Clarkson and other lesser lights as well.

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@gottabe_KD @Mattmark It's hard to imagine any personality not feeling a sense of grievance at such differential treatment.

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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Given how much Gardiner adds to the team, I don't get Carlyle striking back with atomic bombs every time the guy makes a mistake.  If the same logic were applied to Phaneuf or Kessel they'd be sitting out all the time.

You can learn the game of hockey or you can avoid making any mistakes, but you can't do both.

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@drummond When I suggested during the summer that the team had notably missed him, the reaction was, 'He's a third- or fourth-line forward, so what's the big deal?'

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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Anyone recall Lupul missing any shifts toward the end of the last game?

1 week ago on Thursday Mashup: Leafs Analytics Tools On Display, Lupul hurt

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@B_Leaf @Mattmark For Staal?  Very little.  He's the past, not the future.  Same category as Thornton, Boyle, Iginla, Jagr, etc.  You don't trade for reputation... you invest in players whose reputations still lie in front of them.

1 week, 1 day ago on Game Review: Game #4, Toronto Maple Leafs 3 vs. Colorado Avalanche 2 (OT)

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@Savo43 @Mattmark Can't agree.  Gardiner is a keeper and would certainly come back to haunt us if traded.  Probably a mainstay on the US Olympic team in 2018.

1 week, 1 day ago on Game Review: Game #4, Toronto Maple Leafs 3 vs. Colorado Avalanche 2 (OT)

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I'm sorry, but any talk of including Kadri in a package for Staal is just plain nuts.  Staal first laced 'em up for the Canes in 2003 when Kadri was twelve years old.

And some would be willing to throw in Gardiner and a 1st-rounder as well?!?!? 

1 week, 1 day ago on Game Review: Game #4, Toronto Maple Leafs 3 vs. Colorado Avalanche 2 (OT)

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@Burtonboy @Mcost61 @Xxxxxnew The truth of the hypothesis is independent of the truth of the premises.  A+

1 week, 1 day ago on Game Review: Game #4, Toronto Maple Leafs 3 vs. Colorado Avalanche 2 (OT)

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@king leary @Mattmark @MaxwellHowe @Xxxxxnew Kadri's contribution to our offense from age 24 to 30 remains to be seen.  Staal's is guaranteed to be zero.  Doesn't matter how good you are, you can't recover years already spent.

1 week, 1 day ago on Game Review: Game #4, Toronto Maple Leafs 3 vs. Colorado Avalanche 2 (OT)

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