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Hey! One of these clips shows Booth flying into a guy behind the net and flattening him. Does he realize that if he does that in a Leafs jersey, he gets a penalty?
0 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: We’re Gonna Need a Montage
The longer one looks at this roster, the more sense it makes for Leafs to package Franson and Ashton for a d-man in whom management has some confidence. (Of course, as always, the trick is getting the other side to see value in what you're trying to give away.)
17 hours, 12 minutes ago on Friday Mashup: We’re Gonna Need a Montage
@dlb Mad @Mcost61 It gets blamed on the 'support.' Now we'll see.
2 days, 8 hours ago on Jake Gardiner Signs for 5 years, $20.25 million
@Cameron19 @Mattmark @B_Leaf @mr_hanie On the other hand, we could then move F. for picks.
My one real regret this summer is that we didn't manage to land Stastny. Maybe we never had a realistic shot, but imagine how that addition would have transformed the core.
@Bruffins @Cameron19 @Komas Taberle "We're taking your guy."
@Cameron19 @Mattmark @B_Leaf @mr_hanie Do you think we're missing a bet by not taking a chance on Del Zotto?
2 days, 9 hours ago on Jake Gardiner Signs for 5 years, $20.25 million
@Cameron19 @Mattmark @B_Leaf @mr_hanie I will take more pleasure in seeing your analysis vindicated than mine, but we'll have to wait on the evidence.
As for Franson, the only way he's not on the roster this fall is if he's swapped for another d-man (we're too thin on the blueline to let him go for prospects or picks)--and it's hard to think of a likely candidate. I predict he'll play significant minutes for us.
@Cameron19 @Mattmark @B_Leaf @mr_hanie Obviously, I have more interest in seeing you proved right than wrong. Now that Phaneuf is presumably surrounded by better support, I can only hope he soars to the clouds. But I fear my perception of his limitations may be right after all.
@Cameron19 @Mattmark @B_Leaf @mr_hanie Never say die, Cam. ;-)
@Yaknowwhat 'may of' ?
@B_Leaf @mr_hanie If Phaneuf is paired with either Rielly or Gardiner, it will hopefully dry up the market for the absurd contention that his partners are somehow to blame for his limitations.
@BlueSmoke @Komas Taberle @Bruffins It makes a certain amount of sense. If a guy's that special, you find a way to get him into more than one game no matter which way he shoots.
@MaxwellHowe @Mattmark @Cloud09 The point is, Franson can't be traded except for another tried-and-true d-man (who would also be guaranteed a roster spot). He can't be let go for a forward, prospect or picks.
I think he'll be here and have a heavy workload. It's great to have some depth on the Marlies, but you can't rely on AHLers transitioning to the NHL without a hitch.
2 days, 21 hours ago on Jake Gardiner Signs for 5 years, $20.25 million
@MaxwellHowe @Cloud09 Barring a trade, he has to. There are only six NHL defenders under contract 'competing' for roster spots. The seventh guy most people are penciling in (Granberg) is a Marlie.
"The persistent narrative about Morgan Rielly potentially making Gardiner
expendable is nonsense... there’s no such thing as a team having too many
young, talented, mobile puck-movers/rushers in the modern game."
Please frame and hang on banner at the head of the site for entire season.
@sniperstar @Mattmark @Murph2417 Like our power play. ;-)
@sniperstar @Mattmark @Murph2417 See above. How I've listed them doesn't really affect their position, though. (Sorry for failing to distinguish between you and M2.)
@sniperstar @Mattmark @Murph2417 The only player I have out of position according to CapGeek is Booth, which I've done on your say-so. I would have expected Frattin to take the spot you assigned to Booth.
Edit: Oh, I see what you mean... I've just reversed the convention for writing it down.
2 days, 22 hours ago on Jake Gardiner Signs for 5 years, $20.25 million
@Murph2417 @Mattmark @sniperstar So presumably we would open the season with:
Kessel Bozak JVR
Santorelli Kadri Lupul
Clarkson Kontiola Komarov
Booth Holland Winnik
@Murph2417 @Mattmark @sniperstar That's good to know. They may have to.
@sniperstar @Mattmark The problem isn't at centre, though. The problem is at right wing.
If you look at Leafs' depth chart now they have Bozak, Kadri, Santorelli, Kontiola and Holland at center, which won't scare anybody but at least should provide some competence; and JVR, Lupul, Komarov and Winnik at left wing, backed up by Booth and Bodie (plus, on the Marlies, Leivo). But on the right side, apart from Kessel, things are potentially woeful. Clarkson, Frattin and Orr, backed up by Biggs and Ashton? That's a bit on the feeble side.
Kontiola shoots right... I wonder if he could take Orr's place on a fourth line with Holland and Winnik. This still leaves us looking alarmingly thin, though. What if Clarkson bombs again, and/or Frattin doesn't pan out? What if (God forbid) Kessel gets hurt?
@Pent_House @Dangle_My_Berries Only if the city is collectively mentally ill.
2 days, 23 hours ago on Jake Gardiner Signs for 5 years, $20.25 million
@ingy56 @mike_84 @JMAC17 @philthethrill You can hear the opening night boos already.
@Loric76 @philthethrill Subban and Rielly. (Gardiner will have moved to forward.)
I love the $4.05 million. How many fans would be perfectly happy to settle for the .05?
(Probably covers tickets for Jake's family.)
@Cloud09 @Mattmark That's your inadequate knowledge base talking, son. I've been a Leaf fan since 1959.
@DWCMLHS @ingy56 ...even if this claim is what's known as 'damning with faint praise.'
Great news to see the franchise and a player in whom it obviously has confidence commit to each other!
While somewhat underwhelmed by our off-season acquisitions, I must admit I'm now looking forward to seeing our flying Finns and slick Swede (probably for at least nine games) take to the ice this fall. Hope springs eternal!
3 days ago on Jake Gardiner Signs for 5 years, $20.25 million
@Cameron19 @dlb Mad This is generally true of the players we gave up, compared with the ones we've acquired. We're saving money, but the hope is obviously that we've got ourselves some bargains rather than that we'll be getting exactly what we've paid for. The odds against that being true across the board seem pretty formidable. For starters, we're bucking the considered judgment of the entire rest of the league.
3 days, 8 hours ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal
@dlb Mad @Mattmark When you're doing something wrong, I never thought it was much of a defense to point out that other people are doing wrong things too. Judges don't buy it either.
I think it's your comments that have lacked relevance to the 'asset management / waiver liabilty' theme we've been discussing here, not Cameron's or mine.
@dlb Mad @Cameron19 Let's hope we at least manage to hang onto Holland. With our track record, that's no cinch... and hanging onto him may yet cost us someone else.
3 days, 9 hours ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal
@dlb Mad @Mattmark Are you planning to give profundity the courtesy of a reply? What are you trying to draw my attention to? If you're suggesting that other management teams also make mistakes, that's a given. The evidence confirms that those mistakes aren't as consistently fatal as our own.
@dlb Mad @Mattmark With a view to seeing what, exactly, apart from the fact that most of the league is above us in the standings?
@dlb Mad @Mattmark Yeah, but management is paid to see the truth coming. They're trying to 'manage' the future, right? ;-)
@Cameron19 @dlb Mad Ouch! Ouch, ouch, ouch! (Truth hurts.)
@dlb Mad @Mattmark Nobody is arguing that thought hasn't gone into management decisions, or that it isn't worthwhile to try to understand the reasoning behind them. What does that have to do with assessing whether or not the decisions have contributed to sound asset management in the way they should, and that ultimate success requires?
@dlb Mad @Cameron19 Would you consider missing the playoffs objective evidence of questionable management decisions at least somewhere along the line?
@Cameron19 @dlb Mad All decisions (good and bad) have their rationales.
@dlb Mad @Mattmark I'm having a hard time reconciling 'This off-season has gone exactly how I had hoped' with 'I only care about gamebreakers and elite players.' Nothing to do with 'hating'... just an attachment to logical consistency.
Presumably you are pleased with the players we've acquired. If we don't maximize return on these new assets, though, either on or off the ice, on what grounds could you then be pleased with management? What's the point of acquiring an asset if it doesn't eventually become a building block to a better future, on-ice or via trade for someone better?
@dlb Mad @Mattmark If there isn't ultimately a relationship between things like strategic acquisition of a 3rd round pick and making the playoffs, it's rather difficult to understand what management is being paid to do.
@Cameron19 @dlb Mad It seems we've encountered a 'true believer.' Mere reality (like missing the playoffs) doesn't dent the faith.
@dlb Mad @Mattmark This isn't the issue we were discussing. We're talking about paying more to acquire assets than we receive when they get subtracted from the organization. Over time, that's a losing strategy.
@dlb Mad @Mattmark Nothing 'builds a brand' like winning, and doesn't that depend on sound asset management? You're putting the cart before the horse. Our brand has been coasting on forty-year-old memories instead of reinventing itself with sound business practices.
@colino17 @The_Polish_Cannon @dlb Mad Re: 'unforeseen'... even the coach was saying the team was skating on thin ice, the way it was winning some games.
@dlb Mad @The_Polish_Cannon You'll have to fill us in on the context that would impart some sense to these comments. They definitely need some explanatory support.
3 days, 10 hours ago on Toronto Maple Leafs sign Daniel Winnik to a one-year deal
@dlb Mad How can the loss of an investment for nothing be considered 'irrelevant' to asset management?
@dlb Mad @Cameron19 (?) This is an odd comment. Pros WANT to be considered valuable assets. They're disappointed (sometimes offended) if their employers think otherwise.
@dlb Mad @The_Polish_Cannon And where are they all now? Smith is the only roster survivor.
@The_Polish_Cannon @Mattmark @Cameron19 @B_Leaf Well, we're guilty of all of the above, so that pretty well clinches it. If Leafs' top brass had been managing your portfolio they'd have been looking for another client years ago.