@Mike007 Are you really talking about the Big 8? Really? I mean we can talk about Notre Dame and the Four Horsemen too, but that has nothing to do with BCS-era football. Did Nebraska kill UT 15 years ago? Yep. Did they do it with a video game passing attack? Nope. They were big up front and ran it down our throat. Remember Eric Crouch and Tommy Frazier? Were they Brandon Weeden-type spread QB's? Hell no. They ran for 200 yards some games. You just made my point...the Big 12 can't beat SEC teams with their current high school-like offenses. Back when they were tough, physical offenses that ran the ball well they had success.
Your post actually refers to 1968 and 1975. Give me a break, man. Your original point was that Weeden and Blackmon would've had success in the title game. RECENT history with THAT type of offense from the Big 12 suggests they would've failed miserably. Then you make a dated reference to a Nebraska team that is no longer in the Big 12 having success against Tennessee running A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT KIND OF OFFENSE. Nice try, though. Six in a row.
@Mike007 What makes you think Okie State would've even scored against LSU last year? We have to listen to this crap every year..."Big 12 offense would beat an SEC defense". History suggests that's not the case, and it's not even close. Remember when OU and Bradford were gonna light up Florida? 14 points. Remember when McCoy was gonna light up Bama? Didn't even make it out of the first quarter. What a joke.
The bottom line is OK State lost to Iowa State. Period. Win that game and you would've had your shot. I guarantee Les Miles would've rather played some Big 12 Arena League team than a rematch with Bama. How many times do we have to shut down some gimmicky Big 12 offense before y'all realize you can't compete?
How many of these Big 12 spread attack QB's have to completely fail at the next level before you realize these passing yards are coming against phantom defense?
@Shrunken head You can't compare winning the Big 12 to winning the SEC. If winning the Big 12 mattered, I guess you all would still be in it.
@SulRoss Did you read my post or not? Lol. YOU PLAYED IN THE BIG 12 LAST YEAR. There's no more Iowa State, Kansas, and Texas Tech. You couldn't even beat a bad Texas team! How does it feel to start the season knowing you have AT LEAST three guaranteed losses (Bama, LSU, Arky)?
@Shrunken head Well let's see...East champs in 01, 04, 07. A&M won't sniff Atlanta unless they schedule Georgia Tech. You won any BCS titles? You draw 100k a game? You a founding member of the SEC, or have a $100 million athletic budget? Last team to win back to back SEC titles? You guessed it!
You couldn't win the Big 12...what makes you think you'll do better than us now that you don't get to play Kansas, Tech, and Iowa State every year? What a joke. Have fun in Tuscaloosa and Baton Rouge the next few years.
January 1, 2005: Tennessee 38 A&M 7. In Dallas.
But good point. Lol.
@TheN8tureBoy I just follow the mistakes. And our fam has had seats since we played in Stokely ;).
@TheN8tureBoy Misinterpreted or you're incorrect? Haha. 27 isn't too old, now is it?
If you're not from the SEC, you may not understand it's big boy football. Welcome to mediocrity ;). Wait, you're already there.
@AndrewMartin You're right. Even if it is a sliver of the east side for now, it will be the whole damn state outside of Austin after a few years of A&M in the SEC.
@TheN8tureBoy Tennessee and Georgia. Lol.
Why would he fret? He already knows what's going to happen...regardless of outcomes on the field, Hart will can him ASAP. Maybe before the end of the season if things get bad enough. He'll then get a fat buyout and use his Saban connection to land an assistant gig at another big program. Plus, he's already made millions and his wife is a doctor. He'll be ok.
@TheN8tureBoy Guess I am older than you. I just figured you were a mid-50's Boy Scout leader based on your arguments and tone.
@TheN8tureBoy "You can't keep up". That's your response when you realize your reading comprehension has failed you.
I seriously doubt I'm older than you, bud.
@TheN8tureBoy He didn't say he wanted to play a round robin! Read it again. This post is about how he only wants division games to count in the standings. And you've reproduced? Jesus.
@TheN8tureBoy You didn't make a point. You're not right about anything. I will break this down for you one more time...
Spurrier is saying it now because we have 7 team divisions for the first time. Not six. And not a single conference of 8. Good Lord.
He's doing so now because the league just expanded and now you could have six conference games in your own division. Instead of five, like it was the majority of time he was at Florida.
Can you really not follow this?
@TheN8tureBoy What, exactly, are you "right" about? You made a dumbass comment without closely reading Spurrier's actual quote, I point that out, and your counter of "Steve Spurrier has been in the SEC for 20 years" makes you "right"?
The comparison SPURRIER made (you know, the subject of this post) was between the late 80's ACC and the current SEC. It has nothing to do with his time at Florida, or how long he's been coaching in this league. Your implication that he's being disingenuous by not suggesting a round-robin while he was at Florida unnecessarily muddies the waters, is not germane to this particular quote, and makes a comparison between very different situations.
All the man said was "it was cool when there were 8 teams in the ACC, we can't do that now, so let's just count division games". You respond to that with pointing out that he never wanted that at Florida, which is exactly what he's saying...the league was bigger than an 8 team ACC then, as it is now.
I would've thought they would've taught you better at McCallie or Baylor or whatever d-bag Chattanooga frat boy factory your parents sent you to because, as you've mentioned before, you were a little scared of public school.
@TheN8tureBoy He was talking about how great it was to play everyone in an eight team ACC. He states explicitly that you can't play all members in today's big conferences. He says it explicitly. During his ten years in the Swamp, the SEC had ten, then twelve members. Not eight.
Keep up.
@TheN8tureBoy No one said Warlick shouldn't be the coach, but my point was that all programs are down and things kinda suck right now.
No one thinks UT can win a national championship every season, but to point out that everything is sucking right now is 100% accurate.
As for running off Fulmer? I was on the fence about what we should've done with him, but you can't argue with his results...he really took his foot off the gas his last few years. Got lazy, IMO. He was still getting talent, but not developing it. You can make a strong argument that he is a big part of the reason we're in such a mess right now. Although I agree with a lot of people that it sure would be nice to have him right about now.
@TheN8tureBoy I mean really you're nitpicking about whether season ticket sales are down 10K vs. 20K. Good point. I hope that MTSU education serves you well. Now come cut my grass.
@TheN8tureBoy I love how you think you sound smart and just type the word fabrications, when a simple Google search will show that season ticket sales are down from about 75K in 2008 to just over 50K this year. Yeah, fabrications indeed.