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@FireplaceGirl I agree with that. Ten could get hella scary, but the persons he exploded against were invariably mass murderers. He didn't go crazy on his friends.
6 days, 8 hours ago on Capaldi Didn’t Want Twelve to Be Likeable
@Ottoman14 I think what we have to understand about the Doctor is that he can have any kind of personality. He changes wildly. Ten and Eleven weren't the only kind Doctors; Eight and Five were also pretty cuddly. Two was eccentric, but there was also an underlying sweetness about him. It's not quite true that there's NO bad way to play the Doctor - I think Colin's disastrous entrance proved that - but the range of good ways to play him is very deep and broad, and that's why the show's been going on for fifty-one years. That being said, I think Capaldi is in the "excellent" range. He's really crusty, but underneath it all he really does love his companion and he really does want to save as many people as possible. He just gets real pragmatic about getting it done. He's also getting a little less frosty - just a tad. The key to a successful Doctor is really just that he remains the kind of person you expect to see save the day while each incarnation is markedly different from the one who immediately proceeds him.
@stargazer0118 @TheIdleIdol If Capaldi's Doctor softens in the next two seasons, we will have the character development you are looking for. I think it's already begun, actually.
@Based Master @Oodkind Slasher films do not generally end with the main character saving the universe. I don't mind the Doctor being gruff or blunt, but ultimately he should be sympathetic. We should be on his side.
@Rani Nose @Strontium Not so much demeaned as a bit annoyed. It always bothers me when Moffat uses the show to argue with his critics. Not because I think he shouldn't do so at all, but because whenever he does so within the actual show, it breaks the fourth wall for me. I don't mind being mildly scolded in an interview, but when he does so in the show, suddenly I'm not in the Tardis with the Doctor anymore. I'm witnessing an argument that the show's producer is having with the fans. He does that fairly often, really, and I wish he'd stop.
1 week, 2 days ago on BBC Declares Series 8 A Triumph
@Ivegotkidneys I'd switch 3 and 4, and then 5 and 8, but otherwise my rankings are the same.
@Strontium @TheOncomingFish Fan input? They must proceed with caution. There's a reason why fan fiction is generally considered to be terrible writing. Now, when the same concern is lobbied from thousands and thousands of people over and over again, Moffat might have reason to consider the criticism and think about it when he's structuring a plot arc, but on the whole, I think his stance on not just bowing to the super fans is wise.
1 week, 3 days ago on BBC Declares Series 8 A Triumph
I think this season has been the best in several years. Moffat has focused more on character development, and he's done a better job of presenting coherent stories that don't leave us with really troubling plot holes. I also enjoy a more adult Doctor and Clara with an actual personality and some firm personal agency. There are still things they can improve upon, but I've seen several steps in the right direction and I think Moffat has taken the actual constructive criticism (as opposed to the mean-spirited whining) to heart and acted on it. Several big, big steps in the right direction.
@Mikeyboss182 For some reason, it's always necessary on this site to have a dig at Tennant, even if he's in no way whatsoever involved in the present conversation. I would like to suggest that the people who want Doctor Who to fail because Tennant's not the Doctor anymore aren't reading these comments or hanging out here regularly. However, it's a great way to make people who liked Tennant and still enjoy the show feel quite thoroughly slammed on a regular basis. I am getting very tired of it.
2 weeks, 3 days ago on Doctor Who Series 8 UK Ratings Accumulator
@KingOfTheInterWebs is a TARDIS cat @Unibot But the other thing is... Clara was quite intent on judging him for things she thought he did wrong, but when she stepped in his shoes, she discovered why he had to make callous decisions sometimes. It's hard to see the whole picture and every minute detail at the same time.
2 weeks, 3 days ago on Poll: Capaldi’s Doctor – Hit or Miss?
@jackrudrum I think the Doctor is more than just a "good man." He's a great man, and that's harder, because it means you have to face things that don't have simple solutions. People can talk about how Death trails after him, but it's not his fault. He's like a fire fighter; he didn't cause the fire, but he's always around when it is, and he's the guy putting it out. Sometimes he has to turn his hose on the arsonist. I don't have a problem with that.
@Planet of the Deaf
I wouldn't find it that hard.
@rowan5215 has two broken hearts @supermoff @The Finn
Tennant has done Broadchurch, What We Did on our Holiday and quite a bit of Shakespeare since Doctor Who. I wouldn't say he's completely muffed it.
@MrRazza likes counting down with Tony Blackburn @JustAnotherFanBoy I understand that. Matt Smith put a personal and entertaining spin on the Doctor, and I think he played the character he chose to play fearlessly and with great gusto. I personally didn't really enjoy a Doctor whom I found to behave like an overgrown toddler a lot of the time, but my son absolutely adores him. I'm just glad my son adores the Doctor, even if it's not my Doctor.
@Scootersfood is in love with The Mistress @M-M-G His ideas are becoming increasingly recycled. Over half the shows this season were rehashes from older episodes done better the first time.
So we are ranking Doctors now?
It's hard for me to say where Capaldi will ultimately end up for me. He's not completely cooked yet. However, if he pulled an Eccleston, I'd have to do this:
1. David Tennant
2. Tom Baker
3. Peter Capaldi
4. Patrick Troughton
5. Peter Davison
6. Christopher Eccleston
7. Matt Smith
8. John Pertwee (He's this low because I have not seen that many of his episodes.)
9. William Hartnell
10. Sylvester McCoy
11. Paul McGann
12. Colin Baker
@Hibernus Most of the Doctors do not live up to their full potential in their first season; that's one of the reasons why it's such a shame that Eccleston and McGann both had such short TV runs. Indeed, the only Doctor with more than one season whom I think genuinely peaked in his first season was Matt. I hope Capaldi has much more good stuff to come.
@ShaneMichaels @Jambo_dontExterminateMe It should have been stated.
2 weeks, 4 days ago on Death in Heaven Review (Part 1)
@Qbrain No, it's not a bad review. It's a review with which you did not agree. There is a substantive difference. Bad reviews come when the reviewer basically says something along the lines of "Oh, that was stupid and Clara Who and Capaldi is too old" - comments that are not well though-out or explained. Clint explained himself very well, at length.
@DalekSupreme1 @TardisBoy is the Mistress Or maybe Clint has the right to state his opinion. He is not always negative.
@DalekSupreme1 @MrPoetyMan Are you suggesting that we can only say positive things? If we can't give critical analysis, only praise, then what is the praise actually worth? There were several magnificent episodes this season; I just didn't think this was one of them.
@Americanwhovian @ShoesUponTheTable Finales seem to be really hard to get right. They have to be SO big, and SO spectacular, and so far in the New Who era I've been genuinely satisfied with exactly two of them - Parting of the Ways and Doomsday. The Big Bang was flawed but OK. I've hated all the rest, and I am disappointed here because I thought Dark Water was very promising.
Good review, Clint. You hit on nearly every aspect that also bothered me.
- Loved seeing the cybermen in their tanks and thought that worked well. I agree with you that having rain grow new cybermen out of corpses really did not work for me, either. I do not think rain would create an entire exoskeleton, and I agree with you that these new cybermen were not really menacing. Possibly that should have been the point; Missy's plan just didn't work right.
- Disappointed with Osgood's manner of death. She knew Missy was dangerous, and so did the guards in the room. Missy's ruse was not clever, and a reasonably aware child should have seen through it. Osgood should have been smarter than that.
- I agree that Kate's fall out of the plane was distracting. We should have seen the Brig catching her - if they had to do it at all - almost immediately. Possibly we did not need to know that it was the Brig, but we should have known that there was a cyberman out there acting strangely.
- Agreed that Unit would never have allowed Missy's escape to be that easy.
- I have a huge problem with the idea that once the Master regenerates as female, all she really wants to do is create an army for the Doctor so that he'll be her friend again. At the very least, the Doctor should have done something that allowed her to pounce on the idea that she and he were not so very different; then she should have suggested they could JOIN forces and lead HER new army TOGETHER, killing off Daleks and other traditional Time Lord enemies. If they had built that relationship as Missy's reaction to the events of The End of Time - where the Doctor refused to shoot the Master, and the Master responded by blasting Rassilon - it would have made more sense. In that case, Missy took that interchange as a sign that renewing the friendship was possible, and this was her way of contributing to that. Something more substantive than just suddenly being yet another powerful woman who suddenly wanted to snog the Doctor. She would still have been wrong, and crazy, and he still would have rejected her, but her actions would have been primarily related to their long-standing relationship and not her sudden sex change. She could still suggest a sexual element in it - but with the acknowledgement that the sexual tension was there when they were both men, too. Because it was. Infamously.
- I will suggest that Danny does not attack Clara because cybermen who remember who they are often don't necessarily become completely mindless. Remember Doomsday? "I did my duty for queen and country!" Danny didn't hurt Clara because Danny won't hurt Clara. That relationship isn't just a feeling; it's a binding decision. That's what stable marriages are made of; the ability to remain allied with your partner even if you aren't feeling particularly mushy towards her or him at the time.
- The bracelet thing was stupid for the exact reasons you explained. Also, there should have been no way Danny could bring the boy back from the dead. His body was long since destroyed. Danny's body was beginning to decay and he hadn't been dead that long. It was like the terrible ending to In the Forest of the Night; bringing a dead child back to life for sentimental reasons without making it plausible.
Capaldi is great. I'd like for him to be more actively involved in solving the problems, and I think the writing has been hit or miss, but his acting is superb.
2 weeks, 4 days ago on Poll: Capaldi’s Doctor – Hit or Miss?
Well...Missy Gomez was pretty darned great. Her Master was immensely entertaining and Michelle Gomez was riveting every moment she was on the screen. The rest of it was a pretty severe letdown, and it seemed they let a lot of great ideas get burned to a crisp of Moffat illogic.
I don't buy the idea that corpses can become full-flown cybermen through a certain kind of rain. Cybermen are human brains surgically transplanted into metal bodies. They do not grow through any kind of pseudo-natural causes.
I didn't buy the idea that the Brigadier could catch Kate as she fell from that great a height. I did not find Danny's sacrifice for the young boy at all satisfying; it would have been better if he'd just vanished with all the other cybermen. That boy has already lost his family, his home, and every person he'd ever cared for. Danny still had somebody who needed him, and he let her down.
I thought Osgood's death was kind of a waste; meaningless deaths for meaningful characters always are.
I thought the switching of Jenna and Peter for the opening credits was the kind of quarreling with fans, too frequent with Moffat, that pulls me out of the story and pulls me into pondering Moffat's ego. I hate it when he does that, every time.
Four out of ten. A disappointing end to a very solid season.
2 weeks, 4 days ago on Rate & Discuss Death in Heaven
I don't think we can evaluate this for sure until we see the entire episode.
2 weeks, 6 days ago on Face-Off: Utopia vs Dark Water
@no_tweeter @The Genie @onetruepurple I think people who don't like the episodes have as much right to comment on them as people who do like them, as long as they support their reasons with thoughtful analysis.
2 weeks, 6 days ago on 2nd Opinion: Dark Water
@pyroclasticflow @Beasts_a_Snarling is Really..... THE MASTER ! Correct, however, I don't think the Rani will come back. For all but the most fervent of diehard Classic Whovians, the Rani is only a half-forgotten villain whose primary contribution was to set off the worst regeneration in Doctor Who history. She's not somebody they are going to bring back, because she was a failure the first time she appeared and most people have forgotten her.
3 weeks, 2 days ago on 2nd Opinion: Dark Water
@Friend of the Ood I'm on the fence about the idea of a female Master, especially as yet another powerful, prim and impeccably groomed woman who jumps the Doctor's bones first chance she gets. However, within that context, Michelle Gomez has done an amazing job. She's great.
@ahunter8056 His review was not preposterous. You just didn't agree with it. I don't agree with all of it either, but his arguments were carefully considered and well-spoken.
@Petrolheaded Wholockian Given that we all knew this was a cybermen episode, that guess was made easier, yes.
3 weeks, 3 days ago on Dark Water Review
@SonicTheHedgehogRules @ClaireAbraham @Bored of Clara Who What they did with the Great Intelligence is not as radical as what they did with the Master.
3 weeks, 4 days ago on Poll: The Missy Reveal
@Bored of Clara Who It's an experiment - a trial balloon. I think that's the real answer, for good or ill.
@Bored of Clara Who They don't use the Rani because most of today's audience doesn't know who the Rani is. The classic diehards do, but they can't make their business decisions to cater to us. If they do that, the franchise will die. They went with the Master because everybody knows who the Master is.
If you really want to be irritated, consider that this may be a trial balloon to find out if the audience at large will accept a female Doctor. I'm not crazy about the idea myself, but it's clear Moffat's been listening to his critics. This whole season has been the result of Moffat listening to his critics, and on the whole it's produced great things.
Interesting reveal of Missy as Master. I am going to guess that the writers are taking the pleas for a female Doctor seriously. While I am not terribly enthusiastic about that, if they are going that direction, this was absolutely the best way to pave the way. Before naming a female Doctor they really needed to confirm, in a highly visible way that was easily and obviously clear to both casual fans as well as diehards, that Time Lords might willingly change gender. That has now happened. It couldn't be the Doctor first; it had to be another Time Lord we all knew very well. I strongly suspect they will watch audience reaction to this development very closely, trying to see if a female Doctor is an idea that can thrive in this fandom rather than causing a crisis.
3 weeks, 4 days ago on Rate & Discuss Dark Water
@Old Whovian @BazHood Even if it's just a single Christmas episode.
1 month ago on Rate & Discuss In the Forest of the Night
@MerieliaZ @no_tweeter It requires a LOT of suspension of disbelief to watch Doctor Who in general anyway; for them to come up with an episode that had science so bad as to render that suspension impossible - that's quite a feat.
I liked it very much the very first time I watched it, but Kill the Moon did not do well on repeated viewings with me at all.
@jackwho007 Well, if he's not actively unhappy doing the show, like Eccleston was, why would he be?
1 month ago on Capaldi Signed Up For Doctor Who Series 9?
@Robotopia Actually, I'm not sure having anybody in the role for that long - not even the fabulous Tom Baker - is really that good for the franchise. When one Doctor becomes that entrenched, it's hard for anybody to follow him effectively. Davison did his absolute best, but Tom's departure started a slow downhill slide that accelerated when poor Colin took over. McCoy couldn't save it. Three series seems to be the optimum.
@PeterGecko I'm rooting for three.
@NumberNine Three years seems to be a formula that works very well for the franchise.
@adamwright1989 I think that additional seasons give a Doctor something to build on, and if the quality remains high, his continued tenure strengthens him. It's not an accident that the one universally revered Doctor - Tom Baker - also had the longest tenure.
In terms of New Who, Tennant's second and third seasons were stronger than his first, and Matt rode pretty high until the Ponds left (although it's hardly his fault that the season seven episodes had the poorest writing in all of New Who.)
Capaldi will definitely be helped by remaining at least one additional season. He's a brilliant actor, but his Doctor started out very harsh; if he mellows, like the First Doctor did, it's going to be a very satisfying character arc. Possibly the events of the finale could spark him to remember the merits of compassion?
@Deus_Ex_Machina Capaldi is my second favorite Doctor of the New Who era. I am not yet sure how he will factor in compared to my Classic favorites, Two, Four and Five, yet.
1 month ago on Who is the Twelfth Doctor?
@supermoff agent of C.L.A.R.A. My primary objection to a female Doctor really is merely that, while lore may have stated theoretically that Time Lords can regenerate as either gender, we've never actually seen that. Every person with regenerative abilities that we've ever met - the Doctor, the Master, Rassilon, Romana, even Jenny and Melody Pond/River Song, has always remained the same gender every single time. In practice, the show has established that all Time Lords have a clear dominant gender preference.
If the Doctor turned female, that would have to be something of a crisis point. It doesn't mean she couldn't do the job brilliantly, even still, but it would mean that a being with an overwhelming sense of male-ness has to cope with being stuck in a female's body. A transgender Doctor. I'm not sure Moffat's up to telling that story with any success at all.
The Doctor is not male because it requires a male to be the Doctor. The Doctor is the Doctor, and just happens to be male. I'd find a black, asian or hispanic Doctor a lot more feasible. That's been done successfully; Melody Pond grew up black.
1 month, 1 week ago on Rate & Discuss Flatline
@LiamTheFizz @ClaireAbraham I do understand your thinking; I was just trying to explain the Doctor's reaction. Every Doctor has had the burden of understanding the big picture more clearly than those around him, and in the process of serving the greater good, he has often had to make decisions that seemed callous, or which allowed suffering to certain individuals.
There's a real dilemma for the Doctor, no matter what era he's in. If he's not focused on the big picture, and the best case scenario for the largest number of people, he can't do his job well. He can't be the Doctor, and these people need the Doctor. But he can't avoid all suffering for everybody, and no matter what he does, people are going to complain if his actions result in any level of suffering for anybody involved.
The Doctor can sacrifice 100 people to save ten hundred billion, but he will end up carrying the guilt from allowing or even causing those hundred deaths, and people will talk about how he's washed in the blood of others.
Consider the episode that first introduced Capaldi to this universe - Fires of Pompeii. The Doctor had to set off a volcano that would annihilate an entire town, or the entire earth would be destroyed. He gets to save the planet and be the bad guy at the same time! Hell, he even gets raked over the coals for killing monsters.
No matter what he does, he's going to get blamed.
@Scootersfood has 66 Seconds to live... @MarySue Moffat Twelve works better with Clara because there's a certain amount of conflict and tension in their dynamic. It makes both characters much more interesting. Eleven's relationship with Clara was very bland.
Characterization for everybody hasn't been this good since the best of the RTD days. Now that wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey isn't at the heart of every single episode, I'm enjoying it very much more.
This is the best series in years.
@supermoff agent of C.L.A.R.A. The sonic should not have been involved at all. It has become the magic wand that solves every problem, and I thought it was a tremendous letdown to what was otherwise an amazing scenario. It doesn't matter if meticulous hyper-analysis can show that the sonic was working in concert with the Tardis; the overall impression is that he waved that damned screwdriver and the monsters vanished. I would very much have preferred him to have a different means of projecting the green force field to eliminate the monsters.
@LiamTheFizz He said she did the Doctor's job very well. He also implied that she was not showing herself to be a good person as she did it. Her morality is changing for the worse, and it troubles him, because he caused it.
@supermoff agent of C.L.A.R.A. Possibly, as Clara becomes more and more like him, the Doctor is seeing how he comes across to others and is not liking it at all.
@Whovian64 Survival? Probably pretty good, since Moffat never really kills any companions. Amy and Rory went back in time and died naturally at a ripe old age. Also, she and Danny have to create Orson's grandparent at some point.
Staying? I think she's gone at the end of the finale.