King of the North
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What if she was the doctor's daughter- Jenny from "The Doctor's Daughter?" Jenny was very young as is Masie Williams so is it possible that she regenerated into this form? The reason I say this is I think Moffat saved the character for a reason saying in 2013 that the "door is open" for her return one day in the show.
17 hours, 29 minutes ago on Maisie Who?
@Whogasms is The Boy Who Died waiting for Series 9 they must have killed 2 kids to give the annoying kid slitheen suits- that's pretty grim.
4 days, 16 hours ago on Are the Slitheen the Most Underrated New Who Monster?
Not the slitheens...or the blathereens I think that they should bring in another Raxacoricofallapatorian family which would perhaps not have the baby face you described. I also think the skin could change as well. They were mentioned in TIme of the Doctor but I don't know how many Slitheens are left in the universe and whether or not they're big enough to be a serious threat. Just one thing I must say.
DON'T BRING BACK THEIR COUSINS FROM CLOM!
hard to compare the two really:
Ten is the most human doctor- Eleven is the most alien
Ten was more naive and vain- Eleven learned from him and became more wise and mature (By the way this isn't a slander on ten)
ten had the love interests- Eleven had more of a friendly role with companions
ten was more of a loner- Eleven managed to "move" on from the time war (again isn't a slander he regenerated alone, he lost rose, lost Donna and was fresh from the time war)
Whilst the tenth doctor had his flaws I prefer him as a doctor- I prefer characters with imperfections especially heroes like the doctor- overcoming or submitting to such faults is really good character development. Not to say that 11 didn't have his own flaws "Demons run" is a good example, and also ten wasn't consumed by flaws either he had his strengths and weaknesses like every other doctor. This is really personal preference and enjoy both incarnation (though neither is my favourite) and don't really mind who wins.
4 days, 17 hours ago on Doctor of the Decade: Face-Off #8
If there is a missy episode it would be really cool if it was from Missy's perspective and we got to hear the drumbeat in her head. Not in a distinctly obvious way- really subtle at first then reaches a climax at the end with I'm guessing some form of confrontation. It would be interesting to see how mad we would be after 45 minutes when the Master/Missy has experienced that all her life almost. I think that would be one of the most intelligent things the show has ever done- get the drumbeat stuck in the viewer's head without even noticing it! Subliminal messaging- only Y'know legal...
Note it wouldn't be maddening enough to make you tune out after the first few minutes of course
6 days, 17 hours ago on The Magician, the Witch and Something New?
@Antee991166 @King of the North Perhaps... The doctor vs Hot Pie now that's a battle for the ages.
1 week ago on Weird and Wonderful
Arya could never defeat the doctor- his spoonmanship is second to none.
Too early to say, the best of capaldi is to come I'm sure- I'm voting Tennant.
1 week, 3 days ago on Doctor of the Decade: Face-Off #4
My top 9:
1/ Omega (needs to be an absolutely fantastic storyline- the best and most hyped story arc of the modern era to make a return)
2/ Sutekh- exact same case as Omega
3/ The Valeyard
4/ The Black Guardian
5/ The Shakri
6/ The Meddling Monk
7/ The Beast
8/ The Trickster? (perhaps as an agent of the black guardian)
9/ The Great Vampires
1 week, 4 days ago on 9 Foes That Are Due A Return
@Planet of the Deaf @King of the North I understand that but it gets boring real quick.
2 weeks, 2 days ago on Doctor of the Decade: Rate the War Doctor
Didn't like him very much. A blatant reminder of Chris' absence who I thought would have had far more of a commanding presence if he had been there. The ninth doctor had such raw emotion- the war doctor was passive, depressing and didn't provoke anything for me.
This is all "ifs" though, Chris refused to take part so there had to be some link between new and classic who to fill the gap. The war doctor did that passably in my opinion but I think of him as a plot point- not as a doctor.
The alternative? I would have liked to have seen the eighth doctor prove his worth (he gave a superior performance in night of the doctor compared to the war doctor's in Day of the Doctor). Also Paul could have given us that brooding, raw emotive doctor with energy to boot which have fitted in far better IMO under the circumstances. Additionally I think that John was wrongly cast for the role and the characterization could have been better. I think John Hurt in his youth would have made an excellent doctor but he was too depressing/monotone for me personally in the special.
@Typo42 "Magic Carrots" @King of the North Its not just strax- remember the time of the doctor? Also I thought that the poisoned sky gave them a good chance at success and demonstrated how ruthless and dangerous they can be.
3 weeks, 5 days ago on Rank the Revival: A Numbery-Wumbery Breakdown (Part 2)
@madmanwithabox21 @King of the North they were in those episodes for two minutes maximum. Whilst the scene with Rory is amazing- and the guardian of the pandorica as well they deserve a good story to as you said "showcase (their) universal threat".
So yeah I agree.
I think they should just get rid of the cybermen all together- annihilate them from the show entirely. then reintroduce them with a grand plot (hopefully bringing back Mondas as well) to give them a chance of success. The only good episode with little controversy for the cybermen to date is the Age of steel- its hard to see where it all went wrong after I watch that.
I have the same deflated opinion of the Sontarans after the thoroughly enjoyable "sontaran stratagem"
3 weeks, 6 days ago on Rank the Revival: A Numbery-Wumbery Breakdown (Part 2)
Its notable perhaps to mention that The Parting of the ways is nearly a whole point ahead of the other two regeneration stories- and I completely see why. The End of Time is controversial for obvious reasons, whilst many people find the time of the doctor anticlimactic. These final episodes are overreaching due to their complexity which never quite pays off. Surely a regeneration story should be near the top 20- its the most climactic episode in a doctor's lifespan and is expected to deliver something great.
What makes the Parting of the Ways so good? its simple- it does exactly what is asked of it and more. That's the most disappointing thing about new who finales so far IMO, they should be competing for top spots and claiming a rank of greater than 8.5.
To make it clear I like all the new who finales to date- but i LOVE the Parting of the Ways.
4 weeks, 1 day ago on All 117 Episodes of the Revival Ranked By You
ROSE: Really, though, Doctor. Tell me, who are you?
DOCTOR: Do you know like we were saying about the Earth revolving? It's like when you were a kid. The first time they tell you the world's turning and you just can't quite believe it because everything looks like it's standing still. I can feel it. The turn of the Earth. The ground beneath our feet is spinning at a thousand miles an hour, and the entire planet is hurtling round the sun at sixty seven thousand miles an hour, and I can feel it. We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go. That's who I am. Now, forget me, Rose Tyler. Go home.
Gives me shivers every time.
1 month ago on The Ninth Doctor’s Best Moments
Top 20 had 3 episodes from series 8, showing just how truly successful Capaldi's debut series was- 3 instant classics there. More importantly 2 of those "instant classics" were from new writer Matthieson although it is to early to say (and I've heard Matthieson doesn't want the job) is there potential for him to become the new head writer after Moffat?
1 month ago on Your Top 20 TV Stories of the Decade
If I were to compare the second doctor with any other doctor then I think he draws the most similarities with the eleventh. Just as how you have said that the second doctor was "very much a little boy stuck in the body of an old man" the eleventh was very like an old man stuck in the body of a young man. There dress sense in a way is quite similar as well IMO as well. Then there was there personalities, they both have the same capabilities to be comedic and energetic but at the same time they could deliver assertive serious roles as well.
I think the second doctor is perhaps one of, if not, the most important doctor ever. Whilst he is not my favorite doctor (that credit goes to the 9th doctor) although he is certainly up there, it was Patrick Troughton that made the show so malleable to change and the idea of regeneration was inspired to create new plot devices and make the show survive as long as it has. I believe the success and the history of this show rest squarely upon William and Patrick's stellar performances and can only shower enough praise on these wonderful actors- If only they were alive today to see the show's brilliant revival and the 50th anniversary.
May there be 50 more years to come (at least)- thank you Patrick Troughton!
1 month ago on Why I Love The Second Doctor
@MrsUnderhill @King of the North Doctor Who wiki:
Yuri- "He was destined to die in an explosion of Bowie Base One, though he managed to escape along with Mia Benett and Adelaide Brook when the Tenth Doctor interfered with the course of events and rescued them.
Mia- "The Doctor knew her death was a fixed point in time, but he saved her and two other members of her crew. He took her back to Earth in 2059, where she ran off in shock, followed by Yuri kerenski"
ALL OF THE CREW WERE DESTINED TO DIE. At least according to official records back on Earth they are all considered dead. If the doctor had saved them the records would still have stated that they had died- thus fulfilling the prophecy
1 month ago on Revival Face-Off: Semi-Final #1
@Typo42 "Magic Carrots" @King of the North He's always been able to try and save people (even if he doesn't succeed) though, the fact that he isn't allowed to even try and save them is heartbreaking.
@TheNightmareChild @King of the North The volcano wasn't a fixed point in time- they had a choice to let the Pyroviles destroy mankind or destroy the pyroviles and kill the humans of Pompeii. If Doctor and Donna wanted they could have let the pyroviles win.
@MartianWaters @King of the North This is one of my favorite episodes of all time so this doesn't detract from the episode at all and I'm glad the story was carried out the way that it did.
@TheNightmareChild @King of the North That's not known, its the same kind of thing that saved gallifrey- remember fixed points and prophecies are dangerous things indeed. Remember in the episode where they go to Pompeii they COULD have actually saved people. her physical death was not necessarily fixed.
@TheNightmareChild @King of the North Travel with the doctor? Like Ian Barbara through forcible circumstances. Either that or put them back on Earth at a different Time Period and/or location and tell them to keep themselves to themselves.
@Typo42 "Magic Carrots" If you saw people dying around you and you wanted to save them but couldn't you would have a breakdown.
In the Water's of Mars is there not a loop-hole the doctor could have used? Instead of leaving them to die originally he could have told them to detonate the nuclear explosive and take them into the TARDIS and saved them. But what about the Fixed point in time!?! i hear you ask. Well did earth ever recover the crew's bodies? If a nuclear explosion went off (on Mars) then you could assume that all crew members had died. The only downside is that the crew could never return to Earth otherwise they would not have been recognized as dead- that would break the fixed point in time.
I wholeheartedly agree. The poor episode selection in Moffat's era seriously damaged my view on the eleventh doctor and had made me wonder "What's the point in tuning in next week?". This isn't entirely Moffat's fault you understand- its the other writers as well. In the RTD era you had Moffat to deliver the goods whenever RTD didn't pen a script- hopefully by first impression Mattieson will have the same kind of presence in the Moffat era.
Moffat needs a successor- he can't go on forever. But who do you choose? Many of the writer's in Moffat's era I wouldn't invite back to write an episode again- never mind showrun. Some of the writer's are too inconsistent and can't deliver the goods as regularly as required. As for the ones with potential- Moffat still has a large hand in refining the episodes- something RTD never had to do for Moffat in his era.
For someone against the Moffat era to date (on the whole) series 8 was a strong step forward. Moffat took more risks, and the rewards were good. Capaldi has potential to be an amazing doctor and his era should promise the same as well.
To truly move on my priorities would be: New Writers (Mattison return a MUST), more risks, better finales (the last few have been quite underwhelming- especially death in heaven as Dark Water was one of, if not, the best lead up finale episode (well besides Missy=Master for me). I also think Clara should leave soon- cut the link to Matt's era and start afresh- hopefully an original idea for a companion this time e.g. alien/past (or future) human/robot? I don't know take the risk and the rewards will great.
1 month ago on Horror Who Part II: The Hinchcliffe & Holmes Influence
@Malohkeh will sell soul for Big Finish CDs @iMikeZero and should we "forget" the other major plothole in the episode, the whole "the doctor didn't die at trenzelore, so Clara couldn't enter his timestream". I'd sooner forget Time of the Doctor tbh.
1 month ago on Wearing A Bit Thin: A Theory on Time Lord Ageing
Did the first doctor not regenerate because his life force got mixed up in a power surge when trying to destroy the cybermen- not from old age. And as for the War Doctor did he not just regenerate when his job was done- the sisterhood gave him the elixir to be a warrior- but he didn't need to be a warrior anymore so could regenerate. The only doctor i believe who died of old age is the eleventh.
But hold on a second- that doctor's incarnation was 900 years by Trenxelore and died of old age- but in the Last of the Time Lords the tenth doctor was the same age and DIDN'T regenerate. Moreover whilst the tenth doctor turned into an old-man-baby the eleventh looked younger than ten did when he was aged a mere 100 years. Plothole? Quite possibly. Put it down to the effects of extreme aging, as to why the doctor looks like an old-man-baby, he still DIDN'T regenerate when aged to such an extreme- surely that's a plothole.
The empty child- It has to be. As I've said before and will say again, it is the most terrifyingly heartwarming episodes in New Who and is perhaps one of a selected few from the new era that could compete for the best episode of all time. Don't get me wrong Blink is an amazing piece of work, perfect in every respect- but it has not aged as well. Reappearances in Moffat's era have lessened the fear factor I had for this monster and currently I would hate to see them return if not for a good few years. Also the whole time wimey concept has been played over and over again and whilst Blink can be considered as archetypal in creating this type of storytelling it is still more wearisome on rewatch than the sensation I got on its first appearance. On an important note I can completely understand why Blink recieves such reception- is it the best episode in New Who? I wouldn't say so. Is it the best episode ever? Blasphemy. Whilst the "over-reception" has led to many people, including myself, lose their enchantment in this episode- I don't think anyyone should vote against Blink purely "just to see it lose." Vote just to see the Empty Child win!
Parting of the Ways- This is the toughest one for me. Yet again both episodes are perfect in every single aspect and both episodes are very uniquely brilliant. Purely from personal preference I am voting this way because this was my doctor's last adventure- it was hauntingly beautiful end for my favorite doctor and it is a painful remainder of what his doctor could have been if life behind the camera lens was better. Personal preference aside the episode has an excellent concept, a triumphant return on a grand scale for the daleks and some great character development. Of course when Family of Blood delivers the exact same aspects in its own unique way, family of blood was terrifying, brilliant character development etc... Either episode is a worthy winner
Waters of Mars- This is the only episode where I outwardly implore you to vote for this episode. The flood are one of the scariest monsters in the show's history but I sincerely hope they don't return to preserve that reputation. It dealt with themes that extended itself beyond the episode itself, into the doctor as a character- it is historic. It shows us the dark side of the doctor in Time Lord Victorious, shows the new generation the terrifying corruptibility of the time lords in seeing their "perfect" hero regress. It also deals with fixed points in time. It is not only historic for the doctor's character, but for the human race. It shows us how the human race will boldly travel to the stars and become a truly powerful force to be reckoned with in the universe. Whilst I thoroughly enjoy Midnight as a psychological thriller- the concept can, and will, be done again. Take the monster in Midnight, it draws parallels with the threat in Listen as well. It is a perfect episode and both deal with important aspects of human nature, but Waters of Mars is unique and deserves the victory!
1 month ago on Revival Face-Off: RTD Era Triple
Listen has a massive plothole in travelling to Gallifrey (despite the time lock) and perhaps in Orson Pink. MOTOE is a perfect episode that revelas key aspects of Capaldi's doctor brilliantly, has fantastic side characters and 1 of only 2 episodes I gave a 10 this series. (the other being the amazing Flatline, again by Mathieson)
1 month, 1 week ago on Revival Face-Off: Round #11
@supermoff is now a Maximoff @TheNightmareChild Has to be an Irish companion at the moment- an Irish companion alongside a heavily Scottish doctor, that would be good television (and possibly the beginning of a joke, an Irishman, A Scotsman and an Englishwoman enter a TARDIS)
1 month, 1 week ago on Why Doctor Who Should Visit Ireland
@Polyphase To the contrary they've filmed in America a lot recently and due to Doctor Who becoming even more of a Global Phenomenon I could foresee episodes Down under, as well as in Asia (one can only hope)
They should at least film in Ireland. Some of the best locations in the world are found in Ireland- like the Giants Causeway (which I've visited), rolling hills and the like- I've always thought Ireland has the greenest grass. I disagree only with you saying that Culloden is a little known event. Its a defining moment in British history- I'd like to say that the King at the time was prepared of leave Britain based upon the serious ground made by the highlanders at the time. On that note whilst the Scottish influence has been prominent in recent years- tenant, Gillan. Capaldi, and "Tooth and Claw"- I am still looking forward to a more uniquely cultural episode on the Scottish front. As a half Irishman/half Scot (who lives in Scotland) I am really up for this. The show definitely needs to move away from modern London- in a travelling machine that can go anywhere in time or space why always London? Even if that means going to Zanzibar or Alaska (insert place name here) besides from Ireland or Scotland I'd be very happy.
I also think an Irish companion would be awesome with a deeply Scottish doctor- the craic would be class! Happy St Paddy's day everyone.
@Edoe @TardisBoy! "It's as I thought, it feeds on fear. Everything—the polls, the comments...have been put up here to frighten us. So we have to resist it. Do whatever you have to. Push your fingers, say a prayer, think of a basket of kittens. But do not give in to the fear."
1 month, 1 week ago on Revival Face-Off: Round #7
Turn left was fantastic but I refuse to believe that the doctor would not be able to recognize that he's going to drown- that's just basic awareness.
If the eleventh hour had had a better threat then I would have liked it a whole lot more. Prisoner zero and the Atraxi were really poor villains- had they appeared mid season against the doctor then I don't think anyone would have considered the episode better than average. Yes it was a good first story for the eleventh, it was enchanting, funny and exciting and gave us a great insight into his doctor- but that was not developed through the plot though. It is currently my 3rd for the best 1st episode for a newly regenerated doctor (beating the Christmas Invasion only) because it doesn't compete with Rose or Deep Breath (joint first) in my eyes because their doctor's, the funny moments, the characterization of the companions was developed as part of a greater plot. The threat in these episodes were also far superior to the Atraxi and Prisoner Zero as well.
As for The Pandorica Opens/ The Big Bang it does exactly what it does on the tin and more (sooo much more) and is definitely one of the best finales of revived who (3rd for me) and I can completely understand why people rank it as the best- unlike with the eleventh hour. You don't get more threat than the alliance of all the doctor's enemies gathered together in the one room, character development was amazing in this episode especially for the Doctor and Rory (the last centurion is such an awesome and amazing concept) and it is very satisfying as a conclusion to the cracks in time arc. Highly emotional ending in both extremes (manly tears of joy and sadness are shed when I watch this... and a few of sheer overwhelming awesomeness). Only complaints I have is how the doctor is able to save himself from the pandorica. That's just cheating for me- it means that he can save himself whenever he's in a spot of bother- where's the fun in that? Also Amy's parents who she missed so much but we never see again? BTW this isn't a criticism of this episode more of a criticism of what followed afterwards but still I had to mention it anyways. Needless to say the good points far outweigh the bad (and the amazing far outweigh the just "good" as well I might add)
No contest- The pandorica opens/ The Big Bang FTW!
1 month, 1 week ago on Revival Face-Off: Round #6
If Family of Blood was against Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways or against Utopia/The sound of drums/ last of the time lords then things would have been much more difficult.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Revival Face-Off: Round #5
Perhaps the fact that The girl in the Fireplace is such an archetypal episode it stands above The empty child which I can understand entirely. Yet again so was "Dalek" in making every dalek episode that followed the blueprint to making a good episode and utilize their threat. But like how I voted for The Parting of the Ways, I voted for the Empty child as well because the scale of these episodes blew me away- especially since they were two-parters.
Although that being said the Empty-child two parter was also an archetypal episode in showing how a two-parter, scary episode should be done in New Who.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Revival Face-Off: Round #2
The Empty child is a one of a kind episode- it can never be done again- its uniqueness alone puts this episode for me on a slightly higher platform. As for "The Girl in the Fireplace" it is the archetype of all the timey wimey concepts for Moffat and perhaps New Who in general all crammed into 45 minutes. GENIUS. However the fact that this timey wimey vibe can be redone (like in episodes like blink for example) the Empty child is perhaps the only episode in the show's history where "love conquers all" kind of theme is extremely satisfying.
I struggle to find another episode where no one can die yet there is still a really tangible threat which induces fear in the viewer. The gas mask zombies will (or should) never return, but the clockwork droids can (and have) in deep breath. The empty child is by far the scariest episode I have seen in the show to date but not only that it is complemented really well by sweet, tender moments like the Doctor dancing, Dr Constantine giving his life for his patients, Nancy's struggles, the comedy... the list goes on. Few episodes are able to make me laugh and hide behind the sofa like this two-parter and with every year I find it harder for any episode to replicate the same feelings I had towards this episode- it is truly one of a kind.
@ilyootha @Conall McCormick Well I do think that any moonbase would be pre-fab, but calculations would be made before commissioning moonbase construction- then there's assembly time then there is shipping it to the moon, then there is assembly on the moon.
Researching for my article on the subject, the Moonbase was there in 2050- as you said (and as I conceded in the article)- it doesn't suggest that it is finished or the gravitron had been fitted by that time. Even so a structure would need to be livable in to be classed as a base. The year I found was 2050 when the moonbase was there and the 2050s when the gravitron was installed. I had thought of the dates myself as well and under this assumption if Kill the moon was 1st of January 2049 then it could take them TWO years to finish a sound structure by the 31st December 2050. I find this scenario unlikely though and at a push I would say a year and a half was the time required to build the base.
I just think that if they had moved the events of Kill the Moon back 2 or 3 years- I wouldn't have to make this argument. It is subjective I think and the exact details are foggy- e.g. Was the Moonbase fully established in 2050? etc... I will agree to disagree- you make valid points- but sadly I am stuck in my ways and I don't think I could be convinced and neither will you I assume.
You were a worthy opponent as well I daresay- that was a good spar.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Wibbly Continuity: Filling in the Cracks of the Moffat Era
@nocealvento [holding back tears] Yeah.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on Revival Face-Off: Round #1
Me: I can... feel so many ideas... So much awesomeness... someone, give me
orders. Order me... to vote.
Anyone: I can't do that.
Me: This is not easy. This is... ridiculous. It’s
all up to you. Order me to vote! [in
desperation] Obey! Obey! OBEY!
@twoheartsonemind (Six Seasons and a Movie) @Conall McCormick yeah that's what I'm saying, I don't expect a normal writer just to produce a script ready for production but like you said the fans have good ideas and with the head writer's guidance could go an awfully long way.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on How Should Doctor Who Evolve?
@AlessandroArsuffi @Conall McCormick it would be heavily scrutinized you understand- the value of the script would be based on whether or not it could fit time and budget constraints as well as delivering a good story.
@AlessandroArsuffi @DDBlue "I only take the best. I've got Rose"- 9th Doctor (The Long Game)
@ilyootha @Conall McCormick Computers may well be advanced but tests would need to be conducted because of the change in the moon like I've stated. This would require probes, perhaps manned missions to the planet for analysis in order to make the calculations- which I daresay would take more than a year to determine in any case because there is SO much to account for. And then there's the application of the calculations to build the base which would take more than a year by itself I'm sure.
When the moon has become a constant size then the tidal and weather disturbances would stop and it would become balanced. Whilst the application of a Moonbase is extremely practical- with the resources available at the time for Earth, colonial projects would take great priority over a Moonbase.
You mention the 70s Mars mission (my apoligies, a misunderstanding on my part) and you are correct on that front- humanity is more advanced. However in the 2040s Lundvik has to come to the moon in a formerly retired ship with a relatively unexperienced crew. Up until Kill the Moon space exploration came to a standstill and the events in Kill the moon helped to reinvigorate exploration. But considering the lack of work done in space exploration for some time I fail to see how the Moonbase could be made after 1 year.
@DDBlue the 9th doctor says that eh only takes the best. Yes a lot of them have flawed personalities- but that doesn't subtract from the worthiness of their character. Yeah I agree with your points on companions in New who and I love them all- so I have no complaints- but for the purpose of evolution then the writers should definitely move away from this format in the future.
@ilyootha @Conall McCormick Also remember that only by 1969 had humans landed on the moon. Considering the scale of a Mars project at the technology available within a decade its an impossibility.
@ilyootha @Conall McCormick I wrote an article on this subject, in the 2040s there is an oil apocalypse freak weather condition- really humanity at one of its lowest points in its history. I refuse to believe that within 1 year the moonbase could be made considering the effort made to make new calculations for a moon probably of a different size, shape, mass, angle etc from the old moon. Then there is the production... during an oil apocalypse a moonbase isn't a priority especially when the old one has just hatched and humanity has no idea what to do with an egg that has just been laid- is it stable? It could just be an egg with no dragon-thing inside meaning it could be extremely fragile.
Also the incident you speak of is not part of cannon- its not in the show so I don't deem it factual. ESPECIALLY when the sourec you speak of contradicts itself when a prose text is the contrary to the accounts of the tv show and audio by saying that humans could breathe on Mars.
"This account claimed Mars' atmosphere was breathable, (Prose text) though other accounts showed Mars to be long-dead with an unbreathable atmosphere to humans and Time Lords by the 21st century (waters of mars and red dawn)." Doctor who wiki
(red dawn is set in 2000s and a LONG time is in the period of decades, centuries even not three years minimum.