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This article just makes the obvious more obvious - Assad is the Butcher of Syria!!
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The fact remains that China has always remained an imperialist and expansionist country. They claim Tibet which an independent past, they claim parts of Arunachal Pradesh and Kashmir which rightfully belong to India and deliberately started a war with India, they claim the entire South China sea, Taiwan and now Senkaku/Diaoyu.
Chinese aggression should STOP. After all, every single one of its neighbours are threatened by its policies.
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@BenjaminKnotts And Iran is run by a primeval Ayatollah who controls a so called head of the state. Khamenei is racist, hater, terrorist. The medieval baboons of Iran do not recognize the state of Israel and talk of annihilation and destruction. They deny the holocaust and prove that anti semitism is the lifeblood of their existence!!!!
1 year, 3 months ago on Access denied | Foreign Policy
At times I get frustrated too. Phew!
The links do point out to Saddam's intent. No doubt - nukes were a priority for him.
Links to 90% enriched uranium purchase;
The book 'Israel, The Middle East and The Great Powers' explains this in detail. In fact it is an acknowledged fact that Iraq purchased almost 75kgs of 90% enriched Uranium from France!
........Assisi was never charged or convicted with the crime. Abbas offered condolence to Assi's family.......
There is no smoking gun evidence to suggest that Israel covertly help plot the Lebanon bombings. Therefore, it is quite meaningless to indict Israel so early.
1 year, 4 months ago on Access denied | Foreign Policy
not Israeli backed. The Abdullah Azzam brigade itself has carried out attacks against Israel!
Links to the 2003 docs:
About Abbas condolence to Assi's family,
.....While we often disagree, I applaud you for your rational analysis.......
..........Those who are genuinely concerned about the dangers of a nuclear armed Iran should welcome this outcome........
True! Wait for six months to decide the next course of action. We dont want a repeat of the DPRK situation. But do you really think Israel can live in relative ease after comments like "rabid dog of the region" and "the Zionist regime faces annihilation"??
Personally, I think that we can reach a significant deal if both sides cooperate. Israel has freed many convicts with blood on their hands and are planning a third round. The question regarding Hamas remains unanswered. The rockets are a concern. The PA should take a bold stand on these burning problems.
Mark Regev said, "“Instead of condemning terrorism, they are celebrating terrorists. I would ask the Palestinians what message they are sending to us when they celebrate their murderers, when they put them on a pedestal. And what is the message they are sending to Palestinian youth if they turn these people into heroes.”
Even Abbas is playing bad cop as he sent a condolence message to the family of Mohammed Assisi, the man responsible for the bus bombing that injured 29. What message does this send?
.....It was the attack on Osirak that drove Saddam to pursue nukes.....
C'mon. Why the heck did Saddam want an Osiris class reactor and why did he purchase 90% enriched uranium? A report in STRATFOR claims that it was used for making Plutonium!!!! Remember 'Scorch-Sword'? And what about the documents that were found in 2003 in which Saddam is heard as talking of no Israel after the war with Iran and also said that ""Technically, they [the Israelis] are right in all of their attempts to harm Iraq."
Maybe it's true that Saddam's determination increased two-fold after the attacks but there is no doubt about the fact that he was pursuing them prior to 1981.
Even though I'm a staunch critic of the theocratic Ayatollah and his cronies, this deal should calm nerves rather than bring about cold reactions - for now! We do not have any smoking gun evidence to prove Iran's culpability. So why not wait patiently for six months and then decide the proper course of action. Israel is more or less guaranteed that Iran will not do anything stupid during these crucial six months.
Bibi is, no doubt, a charismatic leader but he should remain more focused on the ongoing peace talks during these six months and try to chart out a deal with the Palestinians. Such a prospect would enhance Israel's position in the Middle East and it will be possible to tackle the 'Iran and the bomb' question with ease.
Of course, the military option is never out of the question. After all, 1981 and 2007 were the right choices!
Typical Hamas propaganda. Proves that Hamas are the most inhuman lot. Killing cubs and blaming Israel.
1 year, 4 months ago on Access denied | FP Passport
Funny, that when Iran provides weapons to Hezbollah and Lebanese militia, they didnt realize that it would ricochet back at them. Today's blasts at the Iranian embassy in Lebanon proved that. Also funny was that when Iranian Ambassador Ghazanfar Rokn Abadi blamed the attacks on Israel little did the ignoramus realize that the Abdullah Azzam Brigade, notorious for their attacks on Israel, claimed responsibility for the blasts.
Hope Iran learned a lesson (at a terrible cost)!
"""'''""""You're the one who's running around trying to pretend there are holes in my story and looking like a chicken with his head cut off.""""""""""""
No, I'm not. Actually what you have said solely applies to you and ONLY you. You are the one jumping into hasty conclusions because YOU think that they are wrong. What you have written is just the ravings of a lunatic hate master. You site books that support your view and believe it to be the Bible of that particular topic, when others do the same(site books) you dismiss them as "Hasbara", "Debunked myths" and "no credibility" - You are mystified by yourself and overwhelmed by self-love aka Oedipus Complex.
I remember engaging in a heated debate with you a year ago in FP and you were so hateful, that you even went to extremes of denying that there was no conflict over Kashmir and were buttressing Ahmedinejad's holocaust denial speeches.
"""""So you admit it was written by him. I provided you with the link."""
I never said I agreed. This shows how you are more than capable of distorting words and their meanings.
I said, """"IF""""" he did write that.
No, you provided me with a link to JSTOR not Yedioth Ahronoth. The article you showed appeared in a Journal of Palestine Studies publication not Yedioth Ahronoth. I want the link to the original Op-ed published in Ahronoth. I cant read the entire article in JSTOR(I've mentioned the reasons).
If its such a groundbreaking article it must be found easily. If you cant provide the Yedioth Ahronoth link, I'll have to assume that it is baseless lies created by Palestinian crooks. If I have the link, well and good, I can at least read it.
''''''''''''''Funny. Can't find a book by Said K. Aburish on Netenyahu''''''''''''''''''''''
Because Bibi is not a traitor! Funny, because all youve got to say is this!!
.........On the basis that he was in no position to know anything about Arafat. Now if the defector has been Arafat's right hand man in the PLO, that would at least be remotely credible.............
You are jumping into conclusions. Anyway this remains only YOUR opinion. The book was NYT bestseller. WSJ, CSM, Guardian, Times have showered praises on this book.
This is only your opinion.
It was 97%, not 78%.
Shut up! Probably you werent aware of what happened later!!
Actually, its Shingo who is the longstanding FP and LF bug.
My mistake. I deleted that comment. thanks anyway!
Have your read, The New Middle East: The World After Arab Spring by Paul Danahar (BBC journo). Good read. released this July.
Pls do suggest some books!
And in 2008 Abbas rejected a deal by Olmert. Which proves that Palestine is the only block to the peace deal. Let's a deal is reached next year.
...............Easily. Defectors have no credibility, especially defectors who had nothing to do with Arafat. Hamas was an enemy of Arafat, so Mosab's knowledge of Arafat is not only tainted, but he would not have been in any position to offer any credible information on what Arafat was thinking or wanted.........
How do you know that Defectors have no credibility. YOU dont find him credible therefore he is not credible. Wow, a very 'rational' argument. So much for all your fervent arguments emanating out of emotions rather than intellectual judgement. I mean, on what basis do you disregard the ex-Hamas man.
...........WFT are you blabbering about? The article is clearly written by Barak.........
If it was written by him in Yedionoth Ahronoth, provide me with the link ( the real one, not the JSTOR one). I've given you the reasons why!
.......True, Barak is the one who denied it. It was never 97% anyway, because that excluded the 10% of the West Bank that the settlements took up, the Jordan Valley and East Jerusalem.
it was more like 78%..............
No it was 97%. earlier you said that they offered nothing. Now you say that they offered 78%. What is with you man? This clearly indicates that you are vacillating here and there. You have no idea of anything, right?
And in his book, Ben Ami tells nothing about Israel not offering 97%. All you could offer was a so called existential Barak op-ed published in Ahronoth. Even if he had written that, it is hypocrisy on your part to believe his op ed blindly. Because you have repeatedly criticized Israeli leaders. If Barak did write that, no one can guarantee its authenticity.
In, the book, Son of Hamas by Hasan Mosab ( a Hamas defector ), he claims that Arafat did not accept the deal because he wanted pursue his life life of luxury and extravagance. If the deal was done he would have lost this power. Hasan also states his personal experiences with Hamas and how they ruined his family and ultimately his life. How they used false propaganda to seduce young children and youth to join their organization. All this and many more from an ex-Hamas man.
I would like like to ask you, How can you deny his claims when he had worked with Hamas and knows the organization unlike anyone else? How can you deny his claims about Arafat when he knew the inside story.
About the Barak op-ed - you provided me with a JSTOR link and since I'm not subscribing to it, unfortunately, I have no access to it. I cannot add it to my preview list or view online list because there is no such option. If it was published in Yedioth Ahronoth, it would definitely be present in its archives. I've tried searching for it, but to no avail.If would be kind on your part if you could provide a Yedioth Ahronoth link of the article. I desperately want to read it.
Also, do read Said K. Aburish's Arafat: From Defender to Dictator. Provides deep insights into the world of the world's GREATEST hypocrite. It's a Widely acclaimed book.
.....Scars of War, Wounds of Peace: The Israeli-Arab Tragedy.......
Ben Ami vociferously criticizes Arafat for his flawed policies and his role in why the failure of the talks. Ben Ami has his own views and according to you this book is the Bible on Camp David. Let me tell you that there are equally good and probably better books on the same subject. 'From Beirut to Jerusalem' is one example.
......No, I know he's a liar based on the fact that he lied.........
Well, to quote your words again, "it just rings of desperation and anti intellectualism." Based on what fact?
.....Why would I provide you with Barak's op-ed from yedioth Ahronoth?......
Because, as you say, it was published on 29 Aug, 2003 in Yedionoth Ahronoth.
And yes Khalidi is a liar whose op-eds contain fallacious analyses and biased diatribes against Israel. Not one word criticizing Palestinian terrorists and policies.
......It also says Israel is supposed to withdraw from the occupied territories, and it refuses to. .............
Whatever! The point was about the right to exist and UNSC242 clearly states Israel's right to exist unlike your claims that no state has a right to exist.
........Nice baseless straw man........
I'll quote your words, "If you don't believe me, read",(quoted) Said K. Aburish's Arafat: From Defender to Dictator. A widely acclaimed book!
@Shingo Which book? BTW everyone knows that Journal of Palestine Studies is pro Palestine! And the best you could do is provide an article from a Rashid Khalidi owned journal. Khalidi is a known anti Israeli and anti Semite.
I'd asked you to provide me with Barak's op-ed from yedioth Ahronoth and hope you will.
You assume Ross to be a liar and therefore state that all his claims are lies.
Many people have written memoirs. I dont believe you and Beilin, an extreme left-wing politician. Does that not ring-a-bell?
@Shingo Please provide me with links to Barak's op-ed!
@Shingo UNSC Resolution clearly states that "Israel has a right to exist".
@Shingo @pereira_andrew The Winograd Commission states that the war was started by Israel but as a response to the kidnappings( there is no dispute about this fact)
" The decision made in the night of July 12th – to react (TO THE KIDNAPPING) with immediate and substantive military action, and to set for it ambitious goals - limited Israel's range of options. In fact, after the initial decision had been made, Israel had only two main options, each with its coherent internal logic, and its set of costs and disadvantages. The first was a short, painful, strong and unexpected blow on Hizbullah, primarily through standoff fire-power. The second option was to bring about a significant change of the reality in the South of Lebanon with a large ground operation, including a temporary occupation of the South of Lebanon and ‘cleaning’ it of Hezbollah military infrastructure."
In fact the commission does not deny the kidnappings. It was, maybe not what you call an act of war, but it was the reason for the war.
OK!! What archaeological finds suggest your views.
Only less than 550 participated and there was 4.3 MoE. How can it be a true reflection of Israel's beliefs. Explain?
Ahmadinejad has said,
"Jews are filthy people"
“The real cure for the conflict is elimination of the Zionist regime.
”“The way to peace in the Middle East is the destruction of Israel.”
“Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation.”
“The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm.”
Iran has never accepted Israel. They support and provide Hamas and Hezbollahwith weapons.
It was Hezbollah who was responsible for Burgas. The link to the article that you have provided is dated June 5. The same news site published this in July 18, http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/07/18/us-bulgaria-hezbollah-idUSBRE96H0XI20130718
OOOOPS!!! Now suck on that!! At least try to admit that it was Hezbollah. The EU did and designated it as a major terrorist organization. MAN UP!!!!!!
About providing no proof on post-2006 rocket attacks. EAT THIS :
Many dates I'd mentioned are covered. I can provide the links to every date!
About Hezbollah starting the 2006 war, UNSC Resolution 1701 explicitly states:
"The Council’s concern over the hundreds of deaths and injuries on both sides, the extensive damage to civilian infrastructure and massive internal displacement triggered by the 12 July abduction of two Israeli soldiers in a cross-border raid, led the 15-nation body to unanimously adopt resolution 1701 (2006), which calls for “the immediate cessation by Hizbollah of all attacks and the immediate cessation by Israel of all offensive military operations” in Lebanon."
Expressing its utmost concern at the continuing escalation of hostilities in Lebanon and in Israel since Hizbollah’s attack on Israel on 12 July 2006, which has already caused hundreds of deaths and injuries on both sides, extensive damage to civilian infrastructure and hundreds of thousands of internally displaced persons,
Emphasizing the need for an end of violence, but at the same time emphasizing the need to address urgently the causes that have given rise to the current crisis, including by the unconditional release of the abducted Israeli soldiers."
@mhenriday @SinNombre @Shingo @FranzLiebkind
Douchebag!!! "from the beginning of time" is a phrase which literally means a fuckin long time ago. I cant believe you took that literally. I suggest you get some proper education and then comment!!
Many Palestinians have been critical of Arafat's policies. Arafat was such a terror that he never spared many who had criticized him.
@Shingo @pereira_andrew can you also provide me with the yedioth ahronoth op-ed!
This article states why Arafat was a big reason behind the failure of Camp David. The author mentions how Clinton word-by-word describes the peace proposal including the 97%. The author was present and heard every single word!
@Shingo @pereira_andrew Your view is a minority view and no sensible person will support you. Protecting security and sovereignty is the same as protecting a state's right to existence...
You are taking u-turns. You havent given specific answers to Baghdad or Kashmir in relation to what you said about Ben Gurion.
@Shingo @pereira_andrew Then prove it!!
@Shingo @pereira_andrew One poll before US showed that Romney had a hands down advantage over Obama. I dont need to tell you the result of the elections.Polls are never a true reflection of a nation, be it USA or Israel.
Even the person who conducted the poll has admitted to ambiguities and problems with the question. And you say there isnt... Ha!
"No Jews lived in Jordan, and the the terms laid out by the Mandate did not permit Jewish settlement in Jordan."
--Jews have had a long history in Jordan. Please do not make such absurd statements. It will do your reputation severe damage.
"What crap!! Israel doesn't allow entry of Jordanians PERIOD, let alone Arabs with visible signs of Islam."
Liar. You can never justify or prove it!!!
------------It's easy to prove you wrong. There was no Israel centuries ago.---------
What I meant was Jews existed in Jerusalem and surrounding areas since the beginning of time.The Israelites were driven out by the Romans and the rest is along history of their struggles. Read, "Jerusalem: The biography" by Simon Sebag Montefiore.
Haters like you will find numerous reasons to deny this. This is what archaeologists have found and this is the generally accepted version of history. What are your credentials to even deny this claim????
---------No state has a right to exist and no state recognizes Israel's claims to the occupied territories.-------
So, according to you, the US, UK, Egypt, India, Lebanon and every other country on Earth have no right to exist. You also mean to say the Palestinian or the Tibetans have no right to exist??? So again, according to you, a country can attack another one, defeat and claim that it has no right to exist. You are either delusional or paranoid.
If no state had a right to exist there would have been no state. A would of barbarism and cold anarchy would have prevailed.
I'd like to ask every reader out there: Does not your state have a right to exist? If it doesnt then why are the concepts of sovereignty and building defences are given the utmost importance??
If Ben Gurion said that, the Arab armies could have attacked Israel when they about to capture the WHOLE of Palestine. They violated UN recognition and started a conflict which could have been avoided.
Ben Gurion may have said that but it was the Arabs who acted first. Iraq claimed Kuwait. But they were attacked only when they invaded Kuwait. They were not attacked for making statements.
Pakistan claimed Kashmir but they were attacked only when they invaded the place. They still claim Kashmir is there a war everyday.
Whether Ben Gurion said that or not the Arabs should have waited for such an action on his part!!
It was Arafat's greediness that destroyed the accords. Obviously, the people blindly believed in him and if thhere was peace his reign of power,luxury and corruption would come to an end. I suggest you read, "From Beirut to Jerusalem".
@Shingo ------------Meaningless. Israel has had a fiscal deficit ever since it was created and like I said, the IDF is in the hole to tune fo $20 billion. The bottom line is that Israel still can't afford to pay for it's own military, even with the biggest military aid package in the world from the US.-------------
Not true! Prove it!!
You should consider certain facts before levelling your claims;
Israel is ranked #2 in the world for venture capital funds right behind the US.
Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 was over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK.
With an aerial arsenal of over 250 F-16s, Israel has the largest fleet of the aircraft outside of the US.
Israel's $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined.
Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship - and the highest rate among women and among people over 55 - in the world.
Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity.
As of 2012, Israel ranks 26th in Global Competitiveness Report by World Economic Forum, and 16th among 187 world nations on the UN's Human Development Index, which places it in the category of "Very Highly Developed". Israel's economy also ranks 17th among the world's most economically developed nations, according to IMD's World Competitiveness Yearbook rankings. The Israeli economy was ranked as the world's most durable economy in the face of crises, and was also ranked first in the rate research and development center investments. The Bank of Israel was ranked first among central banks for its efficient functioning, up from the 8th place in 2009. Israel was ranked first also in its supply of skilled manpower.Israeli companies, particularly in the high-tech area, have enjoyed considerable success raising money on Wall Street and other world financial markets: as of 2010 Israel ranked second among foreign countries in the number of its companies listed on U.S. stock exchanges.
Having moved away from the socialist economic model since the mid-1980s and early 1990s, Israel has made dramatic moves toward the free-market paradigm. As of 2012, Israel's economic freedom score is 67.8, making its economy the 48th freest in the 2012 Index of Economic Freedom. Israel's economic competitiveness is helped by strong protection of property rights, relatively low corruption levels, and high openness to global trade and investment. Income and corporate tax rates remain relatively high. As of 2011, Israel ranks 36th out of 182 countries in Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index. Bribery and other forms of corruption are illegal in Israel, which is a signatory to the OECD Bribery Convention since 2008.
Israel is in no grave danger and can sustain itself for a long time to come.
The only word you can come up with is 'meaningless'. You have mentioned nothing about Israel's multiple defence contracts. With countries like China and India gearing up to purchase IDF equipment.
Yes like I said mistakes happen. You can call it lack of fighting ability and so on and so forth. A. So much for your support of a terrorist organization.
BTW, Israel didnt start the 2006 war.
-------------Hezbollah is not on the offensive against Israel. Their job is to kick Israel out fo Lebanon when Israel try to attack and invade.---------------
That is total bullshit!!
You have very conveniently forgotten the Burgas bombings. The 2006 war was initiated by Hezbollah. On August 22, rockets were fired into Israel by Hezbollah and they claim to be doing so from Syria.
I'll give the dates post- 2006 war in which Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel:
June 17, 2007
Jan 8, 2009
Jan 14 2009
Feb 21, 2009
Sept 11, 2009 ( Showing their sympathy towards Al Qaeda)
Oct 27, 2009
Nov 29, 2011
Dec 11, 2011
Nov 21, 2012
May 26, 2013
Aug 22, 2013.
What do mean by "Hezbollah is not on the offensive".I'm sure you'll find sly ways to defend yourself!! Iranian leaders make threats against Israel like "throwing the jews back into the sea" and "death to Israel".
These threats are the main reason Israel is opposing their nuclear programme.
@Shingo Yes, those who believe that Israel is apartheid are fools - Israelis or not. Because the facts point against it. You can point out what, one, two or maybe five controversial laws. Tell you what, every country has some kind of problematic law.
About the poll, there are a lot of ambiguities. In a press release Amiram Goldblum, who commissioned the poll acknowledged there were problems with the questions and methodology used. The conductors of the survey and critics of the poll suggested it was unclear what respondents understood with "apartheid", and that since a plurality of respondents opposed annexing the West Bank, it shouldn't be concluded that most Israelis support apartheid. Some critics said a question in the poll on apartheid was complex and problematically formulated. Maurice Ostroff, a past chairman of the Israel South Africa Chamber of Commerce said that the results of the poll reveals that a vast majority of Israelis are not racists, and that the level of racism in Israel is lower than in most Western countries and in the Arab world. He cited an Amnesty International study titled “Choice and prejudice – discrimination against Muslims in Europe”, which found that public opinion in several European countries reflects Islamophobic views combined with racist attitudes. Another poll, he wrote, found that three-quarters of Qataris would object to a non-Muslim neighbor.
As Haaretz put it:
"Responses to the question as to whether de facto apartheid exists in Israel (not whether it should be implemented) are segmented into ‘in most ways,’ ‘in some ways,’ ‘there is no apartheid,’ and ‘don’t know.’ The question, as the data from the original poll show, was confusingly asked in the context of the remarks of a fictitious ‘American author’ ("the interviewees were asked whether "a famous American author [who] is boycotting Israel, claiming it practices apartheid" should be boycotted or invited to Israel") and not, as the Haaretz headline presents it, as a standalone assessment of the situation in Israel. Again, Levy aggregates the two affirmative responses to yield 58 percent who believe there is apartheid in Israel, but the question does not make clear whether it is referring to just the State of Israel, the West Bank or both. As Levy himself points out, it’s not entirely clear that the Israeli public at large has any real understanding of what apartheid was, and in all likelihood is using it as a term of opprobrium for institutionalized racism of any kind.
Far from expressing support for apartheid, a majority of the Israeli public is sounding the alarm about something they are clearly very critical, if a bit ignorant, of — an ignorance further demonstrated by the confused responses to an unreported question testing their historical knowledge of South Africa."
BTW, the poll was put to less than 550 respondents with 4.3 MoE. This poll is not a true reflection of Israel's beliefs. There is a very high chance of miscreants taking part. There many polls which show lack of trust in Palestinians for their leaders and racist and violent tendencies against jews.
@Shingo @Angel12345 @Simonkr @Henry
@Henry Jordan does not allow entry to Jews with visible signs of Judaism or even with personal religious items in their possession. The Jordanian ambassador to Israel replied to a complaint by a religious Jew denied entry that security concerns required that travelers entering the Hashemite Kingdom not do so with prayer shawls (Tallit) and phylacteries (Tefillin).Jordanian authorities state that the policy is in order to ensure the Jewish tourists safety
A Saudi website once published that Jews would not be allowed visas. Jews are not allowed to practice their religion in Saudi.
On November 30, 2012, prominent Tunisian imam Sheikh Ahmad Al-Suhayli of Radès, told his followers during a live broadcast on Hannibal TV that “God wants to destroy this sprinkling of Jews and is sterilizing the wombs of Jewish women."
In 2008 A Pew Research Center survey found that negative views concerning Jews were most common in the three predominantly Arab nations polled, with 97% of Lebanese having unfavorable opinion of Jews, 95% in Egypt and 96% in Jordan.
Jews were never permitted to live in Jordan. Civil Law No. 6, which governed the Jordanian-occupied West Bank, states explicitly: “Any man will be a Jordanian subject if he is not Jewish
According to a study of Syrian textbooks, “the Syrian educational system expands hatred of Israel and Zionism to anti-Semitism directed at all Jews. That anti-Semitism evokes ancient Islamic motifs to describe the unchangeable and treacherous nature of the Jews. Its inevitable conclusion is that all Jews must be annihilated.
At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution, most of them for either religious reasons or their connection to Israel. For example, in May 1998, Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kakhodah-Zadeh was hanged in prison without a public charge or legal proceeding, apparently for assisting Jews to emigrate.
C'mon man--- the Citizenship law is no discriminatory law. It just wants to maintain the Jewish character of Israel. Guess what would be the situation if the Islamic character of Arab countries were even threatened to be altered.
I can conclude that apartheid, racism and sadism is written into the Arab countries' very fabric!!
It is a fact that Jews were a part of Israel centuries ago. Prove me wrong!! Also the very fact that Jews were discriminated against wherever they lived --- made a state for them an 'immediate necessity'!
You are just spewing blind vitriol. No one stole no one's land. In fact, a UN majority accepted the formation of Israel.Today, except for a few states, almost every state recognizes Israel's right to exist. The problem that remains is a state for Palestinians. Well, it would have been peaceful now had the Arabs just accepted the fledgling state of Israelin 1948.
@Shingo @courtneyme109 Israel agreed to withdraw from 97% of the West Bank, 100% of the Gaza Strip, dismantle most of the settlements, and create a Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital. The only concessions Arafat had to make were to acknowledge Israeli sovereignty over the parts of the Western Wall religiously significant to Jews (that is, not the entireTemple Mount), and to agree to three early warning stations in the Jordan Valley, which Israel would withdraw from after six years.
All the blame on Israel... eh??
@Shingo @wasp2179 Justify your arguments!!!
In 2012, according to statistics, Israel generated $7.473 billion only in military exports. Even though there were slight fiscal pitfalls - military exports income increased by 2 billion.
In fact Israel is all set to sell India their Spike ATGMs if all goes well. It will be one of the deals of the year. They are also involved with India in making the latest version of their Barak missiles. Its basically Israeli technology. They already sold their machine guns - Tavor, Galil and their Heron drones. The great news is Israel is, very soon, set to take over Russia as India's No. 1 defence partner with military deals set to double in the future. Israeli military equipment is in great demand. Even the US are using some Israeli made weapons.
Kenya, Azerbaijan, Uganda, Cyprus and many more countries are ready to purchase equipment from Israel. The Israeli defence industry is prosperous than ever.
Yes, militarily Israel is stronger than ever. The Hezbollah war was way back in 2006 and that was not exactly a defeat. It was lack of proper planning and a lot of wasteful far-sight!! Today, only non state actors are on the offensive against Israel - Hamas and Hezbollah, respectively. No country wants to make war with Israel, yeah there are the occasional threats from Iran, but thats not a factor. Mistakes happen and they also make miracles happen. Give me one strong reason, other than the Hezbollah stuff, to suggest that Israel is weak.
@Shingo @Angel12345 @BearKlein Polls are full of bullshit!!
This shows how the results were manipulated.
Today, within Israel, Jews are a majority, but the Arab minority are full citizens with voting rights and representation in the government. Under apartheid black South Africans could not vote and were not citizens of the country in which they are the overwhelming majority of the population.
Palestinians from the territories are allowed to work in Israel and receive similar pay and benefits to their Jewish counterparts. They are allowed to attend schools and universities. Palestinians have been given opportunities to run many of their own affairs. None of this was true for South African blacks.
In fact, growing numbers of Palestinians in East Jerusalem have been applying for Israeli citizenship and, given the choice, many say they would rather live in Israel than Palestine. A poll of Arabs living in East Jerusalem, for example, found that 35% would choose living in Israel, compared to 30% who preferred to live in a future Palestinian state. Forty percent said they would consider moving to another neighborhood to become a citizen of Israel rather than Palestine and 54% said that if they their neighborhood was part of Israel, they would not move to Palestine.
I think that those who believe Israel is apartheid are fools.