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@realitycheck can't find your comment but you wrote: "actually most of us are optimistic human being with respect for Law abiding citizens and have no respect for excuse makers or especially thugs who attempt to prey on law abiding society. (and if they die while attempting to prey on society we will shed no tears) "
I'd like you to tell me what part of preying on someone involves running away and then hiding from the person who was following you.
10 months, 2 weeks ago on The Missing 2:30 & DeeDee's Testimony
@NolaMarchChandler wtf where did you pull all that info about the bus driver from?
Your ENTIRE evidence about the bus driver is a tweet which read "Yo Tray, how come you didn't tell me you swung at a bus driver."
That tweet went unanswered and was from a third party...no reports of battered bus drivers were made, none. So why did you not only assume that that DID happen but then go ahead and invent an ENTIRE scenario that took place?
In other words why the fuck did you actively and blatantly and inexcusably lie?
@Cake or Death @Rowwdy are you seriously arguing that YOUR one tiny facet of existence in YOUR one neighborhood should be more valid than the collected data from every (most) neighborhood in the country?
If I meet two white people and they both treat me like shit should I use that small sample size as the basis for my opinion on ALL white people?
@Rowwdy perception is reality often enough.
@Rowwdy I'll just patiently wait for your evidence that crime as a whole nationwide isn't down and hasn't been for quite a while now.
I'm at the edge of my seat. So don't disappoint.
@Rowwdy @Indverif Crime is considerably down dude...the fact that we have always ready media now is what makes it seem a lot worse.
Question to Zimmerman's worshipers.
Have you ever looked at this case from the POV where Trayvon is a scared teenager and not some vicious thug who runs and hides from people as an elaborate plot to kill them?
I guess growing up as I have and seeing what I've seen and having done what I've done I'm not quick to call a teenager who smokes a little weed, writes a little on a locker, and may or may not have stolen jewelry a thug...I see that as a troubled teen...(which he would be labeled by all of you if he were white BTW). This troubled teen I see shows out to impress friends...maybe wants to be a cool kid...parties hard, neglects his attendance but overall (as evidenced by the lack of any data) is a non violent delinquent.
I do not see how this kid, this sadly average American teenager runs from someone and hides from someone who began running after him turns into a super 80s movie thug who then tries to beat someone to death with his bare hands.
That literally makes no sense to me...at all. Had his actions prior to the encounter been anything other than run and hide...maybe I'd believe you (funny how Z added actions after the fact to juice up his story conveniently).
But as it stands, Z is a provable liar. Trayvon has no provable history of violence or confrontation. Zimmerman DOES yet you all neglect those facts.
Because the media made this a racial issue...so you dance on Trayvon's grave because he is not a dead kid, or even a thug to you. He is a proxy of your hate of Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Holder, the MSM, the NBPP, welfare queens, etc. You feel like if he is the devil, if he is some super illogical 80s B-movie thug you stand up to your truly hated targets.
Not once have you considered he was a scared kid running from a weirdo who had been following him by car for several minutes and THEN proceeded to pursue him on foot.
@realitycheck @Indverif @NolaMarchChandler @Rowwdy Eh no, you can get suspended for a plethora of reasons many of which (most) are both non-violent and not necessarily illegal.
Sexual conduct, foul language, graffiti/vandalism, theft, etc
None of those lead to "I'm gonna run from this foo, then hide from this foo, all in an elaborate plan to kill this foo with my bare hands cause I'm a 80s B-movie super villain and thats what we do!!"
@Rowwdy you could've simply said "I am unreasonable pessimistic human being with no respect for human life living or dead." That would've been clearer of you character.
@eclecticsandra @realitycheck @Indverif @NolaMarchChandler @Rowwdy the question you should be asking yourself is why WOULD he run home...maybe if Z stayed in the car he would've but since Z immediately high-tailed it after T perhaps T didn't want to lead the weirdo who had been following him and now is running behind him to where he was staying?
Or is that less logical than "I'm gonna run from this foo and hide from this foo so I can randomly without reason or a history of violence try and kill this foo with my bare hands!!"
@realitycheck @Indverif @NolaMarchChandler @Rowwdy prove me wrong. focus on the fucking case without trying to throw everyone who isn't buying into everything Zimmerman says or who says something that doesn't paint Zimmerman in a god-like light.
Also marijuana doesn't turn you violent, and the amount in his system isn't indicative of any recent ingestion. Also writing WTF on a wall, and maybe having stolen property on him that he may or may not have stolen himself even doesn't indicate that you're plan is to run from someone and hide from someone just so you can for some unknown illogical reason turn into a violent mano y mano killer.
Why do you ignore Zimmerman's documented history of violence, aggression, and confrontation yet completely exaggerate Trayvon's barely troubled teen 'criminal' behavior?
@eclecticsandra @realitycheck @Indverif @NolaMarchChandler @Rowwdy
Unhappy? He's a 17 year old not smiling in pictures...that shit is typical, especially among black people.
His other 17 year old photos/late 16 have him smiling too...but of course you wanna focus on those few photos he isn't smiling and the one photo with his middle finger up (sooo scary and thuggy).
There is nothing to show that Trayvon was unhappy...or angry, or violent, or thuggy...
Whereas your GOD Zimmerman has ALL of that in the open...plain to see, from many people...yet you worship him like his word is gospel and he has never, can never, and would never do wrong.
You'd rather believe some 17 year old kid who was followed by car then on foot by some strange dude ran away from the guy, hid from the guy only to try and bait him into some trap where he can kill the guy with his bare hands.
You lot offer NO logical, valid, reasonable response as to what turns a kid who would actively run and hide from someone into someone who is trying to kill someone complete with B-movie dialog.
@realitycheck @Indverif @NolaMarchChandler @Rowwdy
Was shot for being wrongfully profiled by an overzealous neighborhood watchman with a history of violence, aggression, and confrontation. fixed that for you.
Also Where was any of that said?
Also why can't they sue without being labeled something bad?
I guess Nicole Brown Simpson's and Ron Goldman's families were all in it for the money too right?
You are the same lot who are so hung up over them trademarking "Justice for Trayvon" to make sure no one else can profit from his name.
I swear you all must get hard/wet whenever you go out of your way to demonize anyone who isn't deepthroating Zimmerman's bullshit take(s) or has anything bad to say about your new-found God. Zimmerman.
@airforce_wife @THEIFAM @patti @Spiritwolf @Rowwdy this is some David Mametian conspiracy...it MUST be...
@Rowwdy @NolaMarchChandler where has Serino lied (documentation please) and what confidential information has he given the media and Crump?
10 months, 3 weeks ago on The Missing 2:30 & DeeDee's Testimony
@VickisSmith well obviously the olympians are worthless thugs who deserve to die...I mean what else could it be?
@eclecticsandra @Rowwdy @THEIFAM that case, more than this one, shows a flaw in SYG as it is drafted in Florida at least...legally, I honestly cannot see how he doesn't walk. In this one you at least have evidence Zimmerman went after Martin thereby removing any SYG claim and possibly even self defense (note, evidence, not proof)
In that one, with the lack of a duty to retreat he wasn't required to even attempt to drive off...with his wife in the car (pregnant?) he can use that to express reasonable fear...etc...it's a sad case and yea, I think I'm going to spend some time researching it...I haven't heard much about it though.
SYG is a shitty law as I understand it.
@Rowwdy what do any of those cases have to do with THIS case? I guess I should past reports of that old white man who shot a 13 year old black kid who was just taking out the trash...because it's soooo relevant.
@eclecticsandra @Rowwdy @THEIFAM Do you have any of the latest developments on the Phoenix case? From what I've skimmed it seems even flimsier than GZs laughably incongruous tale(s).