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@RTD525 Well, at least a couple of counties have C. O. Jones. Our illustrious lawyer/senator Kelsey killed the state version of a bill introduced by Sen. Mae Beavers. His constitutional gyrations and butchery was enough to make one's ears bleed. I think Mr. Boldin's succinct analysis of Kelsey's first gyrations ticked him off. To that I say, good. Here we have a supermajority of Republicans in the House and Senate in this State that sponsored the Battle of Athens, Tennessee. A perfect opportunity. But, alas, the white gloved, milquetoast Judicial Committee chair does not have the cojones to let the bill out of committee for full senate debate. What a pansy.
2 years ago on Fayette County Tennessee Commission Passes Second Amendment Preservation Resolution – Tenth Amendment Center Blog
@Michael Boldin Will you ever do anything more constructive than fight for your right to get stoned?
Here we are about to lose our inalienable right to keep and bear arms against a tyrannical general government and all you seem to care about is ditch weed.
I've been asking for weeks now if the TAC is crafting model legislation for states to make it a felony for any federal agent to violate the 2nd Amendment protection. I'd like to get this before my representative. So far the TAC has only put forth language to protect firearms and ammo made and used in a respective state. This is very narrow in scope and near useless.
How about directing me to someone in the TAC who gives a damn about the right to keep and bear arms and I will happily dispense with you?
2 years, 2 months ago on Nullification in One Lesson
"(See my response to that article here.)"
The TAC needs better web design.
2 years, 2 months ago on http://t.co/O7bc0mIf
Is the TAC crafting any example legislation text to counter what Feinstein is about to introduce?
Legislation such as the Tennessee Firearms Freedom Act is very restrictive and, therefore, not meaningful in this situation.
2 years, 3 months ago on Repeal of the 2nd Amendment would not Abolish any Right
"An official, agent, or employee of the United States government or an employee of a corporation providing services to the United States government who enforces or attempts to enforce an act, order, law, statute, rule, or regulation of the government of the United States in violation of this article is guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than five thousand dollars, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."
0bama is laughing his arse off on that one.
An IRS agent does not have to come to SC in order to collect the penalty "tax".
At least this clause gives the bill some teeth (albeit unenforceable).
SC did a better job than my state of TN did (which has no teeth at all).
2 years, 3 months ago on South Carolina Bill Proposes Jail Time for Feds Trying to Enforce Obamacare
Texas is making the very same mistake we did in Tennessee. Even if Texas' state constitution is amended, this will NOT protect Texas citizens against the federal tax penalty. The tax is collected at the federal level. The Texas provision, as in Tennessee, appears to only prohibit the state from action against the citizen. It has no teeth at all to protect the citizen from the federal government seizure of assets, freezing accounts, extracting taxes, etc. No sheriff can stop the IRS, except if they show up at my door to arrest me. Meanwhile, there is nothing the state can or will do to stop seizure of my property which is done from afar.
That is the position of Gov. Haslam in Tennessee. He has acknowledged that the state will do nothing to effectuate any penalty, but further admits that the state can do nothing to stop the feds from effectuating a penalty.
Section 1(d) of the TN HFCA:
“No public official, employee, or agent of this state or any of its political subdivisions shall act to impose, collect, enforce, or effectuate any penalty in this state that violates the public policy set forth in this section.”
The operative words of this clause is "in this state".
The Governor insists that no state level or lower employee will do anything to anyone who chooses to not get health insurance. But there is nothing the state can do to stop the feds from doing what they can at their level.
Our TN HFCA is effectively toothless against the feds.
There is no wall of separation between the state and federal behemoth.
It appears Texas is making this same oversight.
2 years, 3 months ago on Will Texas Nullify Obamacare Mandates?
@dereksheriff BTW Einstein, since you did not notice, we in the Knoxville Tea Party are the sole reason why Tennessee may not initiate a state run exchange. It is the Tea Party, not the 10th AC leading this fight. Hopefully we will prevail, but it is an uphill battle, even with a super majority of ill informed Republicans.
It would be great if the 10th AC was more than a thought-tank and would join in the fight in a meaningful, tangible manner.
Drop the pot agenda and do something useful.
If you do this then you will win over super-conservative Tea Partyers (not just rebellious kids).
2 years, 4 months ago on Nullification in One Lesson
@dereksheriff "First, I certainly don't use marijuana."
Judging by your note, I say that you are a dopehead and it has severely reduced your IQ.
So, let me break it down in the most simple manner so that even you can understand, even without putting your bong down.
No serious minded libertarian is taking the nullification movement seriously so long as the focus is pot. Since potheads are now the poster children for liberty and nullification we will never win over most Tea Partyers and especially conservatives. This is a stupid strategy.
Secondly, the THCF Act WAS spawned by our nullification movement. My rant was that no teeth were put into the supposed law. The law has all the force of a state resolution.
Nowhere did I say I was laying down arms, giving up and curling into a fetal position. It is your stupidity that invented that.
What I am trying to get threw that pot induced fog of yours is that we are not that bright. And we need to learn a lesson from this Tennessee experiment.
I suppose this is attributable to all the pot going around.
@WilliamSchooler @babcicathy Yeah! Uh, what?
@gypsynovus @WilliamSchooler Okay now, Gypsynervous. Really try NOT to listen to the voices.
@KansasBright @gypsynovus Please, God, do not let Gypsynervous mate.
@gypsynovus I take it back. Do try not to listen to the voices in your head.
@WilliamSchooler @babcicathy You can walk up to the fence at Pennsylvania Avenue and flip 0bama two birds and yell "Nullification under the 10th Amendment".
He will still exact his penalty tax on you if you decide not to get health insurance.
You are powerless to avoid it, for now.
It's OK to listen to the voices in your head.
But do us a favor and only act on them in the privacy of your own home.
Best of luck to you and all the friends inside you.
"Principal", "miss information".
Remember from grade school. Principal is your "pal". Viz, a principal is a person.
A little mnemonic device for you that I believe you can remember even when you are high.
Justify your marijuana habit all you will. The fact remains that it clouds thinking as is clear in your case.
So, let me try to break it down for you in the most simple form so that you can understand it even while under the influence.
0bamacare's tax provision works automatically at the federal level.
Folks in Tennessee cheered the passage of the TN Health Care Freedom Act supposedly provide protection for its citizens who did not want 0bamacare forced on them.
The fact is, there is nothing the state of Tennessee, "rallying around those who live by my same principles", a state militia, sheriff of Jedi Master can do to prevent the feds from automatically taking the tax penalty.
Finally, you wrote, "Here is one of the best examples of most in movements and why achievement is ridiculous."
Well then, why the hell are you even on this blog?
@babcicathy This is what we are hearing from our state legislature contacts. Haslam was ready to make his recommendation for an exchange and then Sebelious gave a deadline extension.
Super majority does not matter when many Repubs assume the state has control over what the state exchange offers as products. But this is completely untrue. Sebelius (Dr. Tiller the baby killer's friend) decides if an exchange is suitable.
My state representative is the most conservative, constitutionally minded state rep I know of. He was caught off guard at our last Tea Party meeting to not know that the state does not control what is offered in state run exchanges.
It is my understanding that even if Haslam recommends a state exchange, the legislature still has to approve it.
What we plan to do is hold our legislature's feet to the fire by reminding them of the TN HCFA and tell them that a vote for the exchange is a violation of this law for those of us who do not want 0-care forced on us.
But we are just one small Tea Party.
@KansasBright Great. Let me know who the Tennessee sheriff, militia (organized or unorganized) who can walk into the IRS office in Washington, D.C. and retrieve my mandate tax that they will seize from me at gunpoint.
Everything you just described does me not a whit of good to bar the feds from making me pay the penalty tax of 0ba-maocare.
@babcicathy The Knoxville Tea Party is working to educate state congressional members on the matter of state exchanges and why Tennessee should decline. A common misconception among Republicans is that if a state provides an exchange, it retains control of the exchange's provisions (including coverage for abortifacients). This is completely untrue as the HHS secretary will deem, under her sole whim, whether or not a state's exchange provides what the feds want provided.
Haslam is prepared to recommend a state exchange.
He will then let the house and senate battle it out so he does not have to be seen as the bad guy.
As for state protection, how exactly will my sheriff keep the IRS from taking my money to pay the mandate tax?
It's not about what we want.
It's about what we can and cannot do.
The TN HCFA has no teeth except on the state level.
In practicality, it is worthless.
I will be on my own if I wish to not comply with 0bamacare.
Sakes, I often think the TAC is nothing more than a front organization for the legalization of marijuana.
Will you tenthers ever stop using the canard of "medical" marijuana as a justification for nullification?
Jeez. Just come out and say it, you love being potheads.
No one is ever going to be arrested for "recreational" marijuana use.
If you get caught with a "recreational" amount of pot, you are stupid and deserve to spend some time in jail.
How about focusing on a matter of much greater importance.
For example, in my state of Tennessee was passed the Health Care Freedom Act. which is supposed to protect Tennesseans from forced health care if they so choose not to comply with 0bamacare.
However, it turns out there is no teeth to this law.
0ba-mao will still take my tax dollars if I refuse to comply.
And the state of Tennessee has absolutely no way to protect me from a tyrannical federal government.
Hell, Haslam is already caving on the health care exchange issue.
How can I possibly trust that this limp wrist will have my back?
So, Mr. Nullifier.
What good is nullification if the state cannot protect its citizens?
You are fooling your readers.
Some of us old fogies still like to print and read articles.
When I try to do so from your website it gets grossly reformatted so that is scarcely readable, if at all.
Do us a favor and please fix this.
"alarmists" (who say the costs of inaction will be high) and "deniers" (who say that the costs of inaction will be low or even zero). The end result has been neither to win the debate nor secure a political mandate, but to politicize the science itself."
"Consider this: If the goal is to stabilize the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere at a low level by 2050 (in precise terms, at 450 parts per million or less), then the world would need to deploy a nuclear power plant worth of carbon free energy every day between now and 2050. For wind or solar, the figures are even more daunting."
The "deniers" are right.
It is plain to the most casual outside observer.
It is the alarmists who have politicized the "science".
I look forward to a 1,000 ppmv CO2 rich, life enhancing atmosphere.
Hopefully in my lifetime.
2 years, 7 months ago on Conversation @ http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/08/06/tk_0?page=0,1
I find it hard to believe the Judge quit Freedom Watch. I also find it hard to believe FoxBiz cancelled his show due to ratings.
It appears that his endorsement of Ron Paul did him in by the establishment unconstitutionalist GOPers (Brit Hume, etc.).
If that is the case, how can the Judge continue to work for Fox with good conscience?
2 years, 10 months ago on Memories of Freedom
@SeaAggie Like many other fed laws, the feds will likely withhold or threaten to withhold federal funding. That is why our lousy GOP governor of Tennessee is proceeding with plans to comply with ObamaCare. His excuse is that Tennessee will lose federal funding opportunities. It's all a bribery game that We the People have allowed the feds to get away with for years. The feds give "free" money, the states comply. That way it all remains "constitutional" because milquetoast state politicians cannot resist the money.
2 years, 11 months ago on New Law: Virginia will not cooperate with NDAA detention