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@Cuandoseya "Bush and Cheney were after the oil ..."
You lost me there.
We have not profited from any oil.
Damn sure wish we HAD gone over there for the oil!!!
I would have been AOK for that.
@Zenphamy "I don't think abortion rights ..."
This comment is born of a misunderstanding of "natural" rights. The term means God-given rights, as from Nature's God, as Jefferson put it.
Anything in nature can be made a weapon. But when Cain killed Abel, God told Cain He gave him no such right to do so.
Same holds true with our supposed natural abortifacients argument.
No person, not even a mother, has a right to murder her own baby.
God has never granted any right, and has in fact condemned, murder of human beings.
Not even pre-born babies.
Such is covetousness of the highest order, which summarizes all the Commandments of God.
@RTD525 Well, at least a couple of counties have C. O. Jones. Our illustrious lawyer/senator Kelsey killed the state version of a bill introduced by Sen. Mae Beavers. His constitutional gyrations and butchery was enough to make one's ears bleed. I think Mr. Boldin's succinct analysis of Kelsey's first gyrations ticked him off. To that I say, good. Here we have a supermajority of Republicans in the House and Senate in this State that sponsored the Battle of Athens, Tennessee. A perfect opportunity. But, alas, the white gloved, milquetoast Judicial Committee chair does not have the cojones to let the bill out of committee for full senate debate. What a pansy.
Excellent article!
Two days ago the Tennessee Judicial Committee rolled for one week the decision to go forward with a vote on the Tennessee Firearms Freedom Act. It is similar to Missouri's.
Four Constitutional Republicans voted nay (to NOT roll it one week and take it to vote immediately), 3 RINOs and 2 Dems voted aye (to roll it one week).
Sen. Mae Beavers did her dead level best.
But Committee Chairman Kelsey could not help but be confused over the fact that SC acquiesced to Andrew Jackson's threat over tariff nullification, even though Ms. Beavers schooled him on the Supremacy Clause.
How disappointingly ignorant are our elected officials, Republicans even.
Demonstrating that more than liberals have no black and white issues.
What part of "shall not be infringed" is so difficult to understand?
This Sat. is a Day of Resistance (ahem, Nullification) in Sevierville, TN.
Hopefully hundreds will show up.
@Michael Boldin Will you ever do anything more constructive than fight for your right to get stoned?
Here we are about to lose our inalienable right to keep and bear arms against a tyrannical general government and all you seem to care about is ditch weed.
I've been asking for weeks now if the TAC is crafting model legislation for states to make it a felony for any federal agent to violate the 2nd Amendment protection. I'd like to get this before my representative. So far the TAC has only put forth language to protect firearms and ammo made and used in a respective state. This is very narrow in scope and near useless.
How about directing me to someone in the TAC who gives a damn about the right to keep and bear arms and I will happily dispense with you?
Is the TAC crafting any example legislation text to counter what Feinstein is about to introduce?
Legislation such as the Tennessee Firearms Freedom Act is very restrictive and, therefore, not meaningful in this situation.
"An official, agent, or employee of the United States government or an employee of a corporation providing services to the United States government who enforces or attempts to enforce an act, order, law, statute, rule, or regulation of the government of the United States in violation of this article is guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than five thousand dollars, or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."
0bama is laughing his arse off on that one.
An IRS agent does not have to come to SC in order to collect the penalty "tax".
At least this clause gives the bill some teeth (albeit unenforceable).
SC did a better job than my state of TN did (which has no teeth at all).
Texas is making the very same mistake we did in Tennessee. Even if Texas' state constitution is amended, this will NOT protect Texas citizens against the federal tax penalty. The tax is collected at the federal level. The Texas provision, as in Tennessee, appears to only prohibit the state from action against the citizen. It has no teeth at all to protect the citizen from the federal government seizure of assets, freezing accounts, extracting taxes, etc. No sheriff can stop the IRS, except if they show up at my door to arrest me. Meanwhile, there is nothing the state can or will do to stop seizure of my property which is done from afar.
That is the position of Gov. Haslam in Tennessee. He has acknowledged that the state will do nothing to effectuate any penalty, but further admits that the state can do nothing to stop the feds from effectuating a penalty.
Section 1(d) of the TN HFCA:
“No public official, employee, or agent of this state or any of its political subdivisions shall act to impose, collect, enforce, or effectuate any penalty in this state that violates the public policy set forth in this section.”
The operative words of this clause is "in this state".
The Governor insists that no state level or lower employee will do anything to anyone who chooses to not get health insurance. But there is nothing the state can do to stop the feds from doing what they can at their level.
Our TN HFCA is effectively toothless against the feds.
There is no wall of separation between the state and federal behemoth.
It appears Texas is making this same oversight.
@dereksheriff BTW Einstein, since you did not notice, we in the Knoxville Tea Party are the sole reason why Tennessee may not initiate a state run exchange. It is the Tea Party, not the 10th AC leading this fight. Hopefully we will prevail, but it is an uphill battle, even with a super majority of ill informed Republicans.
It would be great if the 10th AC was more than a thought-tank and would join in the fight in a meaningful, tangible manner.
Drop the pot agenda and do something useful.
If you do this then you will win over super-conservative Tea Partyers (not just rebellious kids).
@dereksheriff "First, I certainly don't use marijuana."
Judging by your note, I say that you are a dopehead and it has severely reduced your IQ.
So, let me break it down in the most simple manner so that even you can understand, even without putting your bong down.
No serious minded libertarian is taking the nullification movement seriously so long as the focus is pot. Since potheads are now the poster children for liberty and nullification we will never win over most Tea Partyers and especially conservatives. This is a stupid strategy.
Secondly, the THCF Act WAS spawned by our nullification movement. My rant was that no teeth were put into the supposed law. The law has all the force of a state resolution.
Nowhere did I say I was laying down arms, giving up and curling into a fetal position. It is your stupidity that invented that.
What I am trying to get threw that pot induced fog of yours is that we are not that bright. And we need to learn a lesson from this Tennessee experiment.
I suppose this is attributable to all the pot going around.
@WilliamSchooler @babcicathy Yeah! Uh, what?
@gypsynovus @WilliamSchooler Okay now, Gypsynervous. Really try NOT to listen to the voices.
@KansasBright @gypsynovus Please, God, do not let Gypsynervous mate.
@gypsynovus I take it back. Do try not to listen to the voices in your head.
@WilliamSchooler @babcicathy You can walk up to the fence at Pennsylvania Avenue and flip 0bama two birds and yell "Nullification under the 10th Amendment".
He will still exact his penalty tax on you if you decide not to get health insurance.
You are powerless to avoid it, for now.
@gypsynovus Dooo-dooo-dooo-dooo.
It's OK to listen to the voices in your head.
But do us a favor and only act on them in the privacy of your own home.
Best of luck to you and all the friends inside you.
"Principal", "miss information".
Remember from grade school. Principal is your "pal". Viz, a principal is a person.
A little mnemonic device for you that I believe you can remember even when you are high.
Justify your marijuana habit all you will. The fact remains that it clouds thinking as is clear in your case.
So, let me try to break it down for you in the most simple form so that you can understand it even while under the influence.
0bamacare's tax provision works automatically at the federal level.
Folks in Tennessee cheered the passage of the TN Health Care Freedom Act supposedly provide protection for its citizens who did not want 0bamacare forced on them.
The fact is, there is nothing the state of Tennessee, "rallying around those who live by my same principles", a state militia, sheriff of Jedi Master can do to prevent the feds from automatically taking the tax penalty.
Finally, you wrote, "Here is one of the best examples of most in movements and why achievement is ridiculous."
Well then, why the hell are you even on this blog?
@babcicathy This is what we are hearing from our state legislature contacts. Haslam was ready to make his recommendation for an exchange and then Sebelious gave a deadline extension.
Super majority does not matter when many Repubs assume the state has control over what the state exchange offers as products. But this is completely untrue. Sebelius (Dr. Tiller the baby killer's friend) decides if an exchange is suitable.
My state representative is the most conservative, constitutionally minded state rep I know of. He was caught off guard at our last Tea Party meeting to not know that the state does not control what is offered in state run exchanges.
It is my understanding that even if Haslam recommends a state exchange, the legislature still has to approve it.
What we plan to do is hold our legislature's feet to the fire by reminding them of the TN HCFA and tell them that a vote for the exchange is a violation of this law for those of us who do not want 0-care forced on us.
But we are just one small Tea Party.
@KansasBright Great. Let me know who the Tennessee sheriff, militia (organized or unorganized) who can walk into the IRS office in Washington, D.C. and retrieve my mandate tax that they will seize from me at gunpoint.
Everything you just described does me not a whit of good to bar the feds from making me pay the penalty tax of 0ba-maocare.