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"Normally, I expect cutting edge guilds to rely on Loot Council or some other similar system to maximize the effectiveness of loot on their players and to make sure it goes to the right people."

I think this is off target. What you miss is that the "cutting edge" actually rely on loot the least, in some ways. The sooner you enter farm, the less relevant loot is. This is what Blizzard is missing too with their silly proposed 25m fixed -- raiders don't raid for loot. It is simply not a major motivator; honestly it is more of a pain in the ass than a reward.

We aren't world top 10, but we are US top 50 and we certainly don't use loot council. We use a custom built loot addon which is basically EPGP that awards loot based on attendance & prior loot earned. Gears everyone evenly. I do not think we are unique at all in that. The less trouble a loot system is the better.

Anyways, why raid with people who will be prioritized over - or under - other people? Everyone in my raid deserves loot evenly or as fast as me, otherwise why am I raiding with them.... that's how I see it.

2 years, 2 months ago on Why a World Top 10 Guild Doesn’t use Loot Council


The gating is a good thing, Matt. Otherwise we all would have been farming 5 reps at launch instead of 2-3. :)

2 years, 6 months ago on Dailies and Valor: Almost Out of the Woods