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@FF_pickups I think to suggest that we have a zero percent chance of winning without Gasol is a bit of an exaggeration. Are the chances better with Gasol over Perkins? Maybe. But for all hi offensive prowess, Pau is not Mark and certainly not a top defensive player. While Perkins may have his shortcomings he is still our defensive anchor and we all know that offensively we are a pretty good team because of these two guys called Kevin and Russ, but we need to shore up our defense. Defense is all about effort and attitude and Perkins does bring that. Also, given that we have improved every year as a team, have lost to the eventual champs in every single playoffs since 2009-2010 (save for last year, due to Westbrook injury), and have had injuries to our "big 3" in the playoffs two years running, you ought to wait and see what we can do when healthy. For all the perceived disappointment this offseason, I can honestly say that we have actually improved. We have added more promising rookies, a solid 3 pt shooter and we also have a line up change to look forward to. Bank on the improvement of our young (under 25) guys and lets see what they bring come October, before we start making unfounded lamentation about how missing out on this or that free agent spells doom and gloom for us.
1 month, 2 weeks ago on What the Thunder are adding in Anthony Morrow
@Bry Bry I said exactly thi a week ago:
Love to LA, Gasol to OKC and Randle + Perk + fillers to Minnesota.
1 month, 3 weeks ago on Thursday Bolts – 7.10.14
@Half International Man of Mystery Half Amazing @niimits Fair enough. I was just basing this solely off of their breakdown with the Warriors.
1 month, 4 weeks ago on Friday Bolts – America Edition
@Half International Man of Mystery Half Amazing @niimits They couldn't even get Klay Thompson, I thought no one wants to give them anything because Love is gonna walk anyways?
This may be completely ridiculous, but what would make this scenario work? I feel this could be a win-win for every team involved? If the Lakers, are able to snag another big name free agent off of the free agency this year they become instant contenders.
@ricky_roe @niimits That certainly goes without saying. I am not saying make him the scapegoat for the "failed" (assuming chip or bust) season, but just asking for legitimate reasons for why he isn't considered expendable by some? You only fire him if you can get a better coach of course, but there are decent coaches on the market, heck we are even in a good position to give Fish that offer (even Phil Jackson is after him).
3 months ago on Spurs vs. Thunder: Game 6 Pregame Primer
Scott Brooks is almost as polarizing a figure to discuss on this board as Westbrook is everywhere. I don't usually play the blame Scott Brooks game, but I do wan't to sincerely ask one of the Brooks faithfuls, why they believe he shouldn't be fired? He was great at developing talent and I don't know if KD, Westbrook, Ibaka, Harden, Reggie develop as much as they did. But now that we are no longer in that development phase, what does he bring to the table? What makes him a better option than and Xs and Os coach? Certainly we are not going to get a Phil, Pop or Spoelstra/Riley level coach, but it would be nice to have some kind of an offensive system. The Spurs make the scrubs work because of a system, we certainly have players of that caliber on our bench, is it not worth a shot to try a coaching change to see if we can get some utility out of our bench? Why is Brooks considered untouchable by some? Sincere question.
New Coach (One can hope) and better bench. If not a new coach then presti needs a to pull a brad pitt from moneyball and get rid of all the "vets" a la fish and butler and force brooks' hand.
@WestCrook trolls are back?
3 months ago on Thunder vs. Spurs: Game 5 Pregame Primer
where's @ripcitybaby with a picture of a thousand bucks??? LOL
3 months, 1 week ago on Spurs vs. Thunder: Game 3 Pregame Primer
@OKC035 About time SOMEONE did!
3 months, 1 week ago on Thunder vs. Spurs: Game 2 Pregame Primer
HOW THE FUCK DOES RUSS NOT HAVE A SINGLE MUTHAFUCKING FREETHROW IN THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!
@aballer1515 @RipCityBaby mama didn't love him as a child and keeps nagging him to move out her basement. boys gotta let lose somewhere.
@MostJadedGamer @RipCityBaby says the team that passed on JORDAN AND DURANT. LOL
@RipCityBaby @niimits @f5alcon all talk no walk makes ripcity a dull boy. no team in the playoffs makes him a whiny troll.
@RipCityBaby @f5alcon you cant bet with pictures of money boy. go get a job, move out, get some cash and then come back. on second thought maybe dont come back and just GET A LIFE INSTEAD
@RipCityBaby @f5alcon rip city easy to talk from mom's basement. bet you aint seen 5 grand in your life boy.
@RipCityBaby @Legendary_Dork See how nice it is once you take that duck out your mouth
@RipCityBaby @Legendary_Dork You are talking sense again! Congrats! what changed?
@RipCityBaby @niimits LOL sure whatever helps you sleep at night. Must not be much given that you find enough free time to come troll a THUNDER fan site. Must be a sad existence. PS: We have beaten spurs down 0-2 in the WCF before, but I am guessing you only look at things that fit your narrow agenda?
@RipCityBaby @niimits LOL game 4 right? come back IF we don't win 2 before that. otherwise again GTFO of here!
@RipCityBaby glad your team is still in though! Oh wait 2nd ROUND EXIT!!! say what????
GTFO of here
3 months, 2 weeks ago on Thunder vs. Clippers: Game 6 Pregame Primer
Loving how no one is feeding the trolls. To all the trolls on here:
Y'all get half a bar, efff the haters.
@MostJadedGamer you are an idiot, those guys can't make kd get closer to the basket if he is gonna keep asking for the ball at the top of the key. anyways i guess i'll stop feeding the troll.
3 months, 3 weeks ago on Thunder vs. Clippers: Game 4 Pregame Primer
@[brooks' fault] @Lost Ones I like to imagine that you are a very sarcastic and funny individual, because there is no way I can wrap my head around the possibility that you are remotely serious with all the comments you make. Bravo for keeping it light sir!
And @Lost Ones I agree keeping Ibaka was easily the better decision, one that I always believed we were going to make.
3 months, 3 weeks ago on Thunder assume control in Game 3, 118-112
people griping about triple double not earned, a lot of his assists turned into free throws, too bad those count, so STFU
3 months, 3 weeks ago on Clippers vs. Thunder: Game 2 Pregame Primer
@OKC035 @[brooks' fault] its not what he is watching, its what he is on. seeing things probably!
@Perky Jerky is just a troll, dont mind him
3 months, 4 weeks ago on Clippers vs. Thunder: Game 1 Pregame Primer
chill out people, we are going to win this game.
4 months ago on Grizzlies vs. Thunder: Game 5 Pregame Primer
@Old Man Game yes after shooting 16% from the three this series, lets forget four terrible games because he is shooting well tonight! clearly the other four games were a fluke and this game justifies that he is a max player even he IS shooting 36% in the first four games. BRAVO
1 year, 4 months ago on Rockets vs. Thunder: Game 5 Pregame Primer
At least the silver lining is that Skip Bayless can SUCK IT now :/ (Sucks thats the only good thing to look forward to if we lose)
1 year, 4 months ago on Thunder vs. Rockets: Game 3 Pregame Primer
@yarkmu @niimits I don't get the link, but yeah. Basically my only gripe is that vince carter, t mac, heck allen iverson or even steve nash could have been the next kobe bryant had they played for the lakers with phil jackson. In fact, any of those other guys (except maybe iverson) wouldn't have forced shaq out and could have won 6 or 7 rings in the early 2000's. But he get overhyped by his fans for being in the right place at the right time.
1 year, 4 months ago on What now?
@yarkmu an interview*
@yarkmu @niimits accused but not convicted* As much as I hat the guy, if westbrook was in his place I would say that he was never convicted. but yeah I know what you mean! There is a level of arrogance with Kobe, that you just don't see with Russ. For instance Kobe ACTUALLY brought up magic without kareem in a interview a few years ago, as if he has the skills to be compared to magic. he plays hard no doubt, but the guy has no special skills to speak of.
And while I may not admit it, seems like its the same with westbrook, he has always overachieved and played with a chip on his shoulder and that just might be his best attribute.
@yarkmu @niimits yeah, I think it was darnell who said that westbrook is the most polarizing player since lebron. That basically sums it up. people hate to love what he does. Ironically enough I HATE Kobe for the same reasons I love westbrook, but that's how those guys play.
I can't imagine if the media would be so pro beverly had he done this to durant, lebron or kobe.
@OKC035 if its any consolation, I am a chargers fan and I follow the thunder because of westbrook. So basically I have nothing going for me as of right now :/
@senseandsenescence @niimits Alright then. That's something I could agree with. Thing is I am not asking for his head(or life in prison/death penalty in your analogy). I am simply stating that this bs about him being devoid of any fault is stupid. And as a thunder fan I could also claim that this could be similar to 'being related' to him. Thus going back to my original point: yeah he didnt "actively" try to injure westbrook, but he DID act in a reckless fashion given that his actions were not going to have ANY positive result for his team regardless of the outcome. I am not saying that the league should suspend him or that he should retroactively receive a flagrant, but for people here to pretend he shouldn't be held accountable at all is utterly ridiculous.
@Thunder, Love, & Basketball @niimits @BiffMoneyball No:
First: I was just using an example where intent isn't the be all end all argument.
Second: Let's (for arguments sake) agree that I did use murder as an analogy, the punishment that I am calling for is simple acknowledgement that PatBev was at fault.
So even if we assume I was comparing it to murder, the analogy still is:
Blaming patrick beverly for theis injury is similar to accusing a drunk driver for murder/manslaughter.
Lesser punishment for lesser crime, but in both cases intent was not the deciding factor in the outcome, the reckless actions was.
@OKC035 thank you I can't believe lack of "intent" is being regarded as the key point here. There are plenty of examples where recklessness is tantamount to intentional malice, when the perpetrator is fully aware of the potential ramifications of his action.
@Collison4MVP Yeah except the timeout was called after russ went for the steal there! Not to mention his attempt was clean, and he didn't run into jeremy lin. But let's ignore the facts that interfere with your narrative!
@BiffMoneyball @niimits I realize! I saw the second comment, but just wanted to make sure I made it clear. I don't want anyone thinking I would compare something so silly to murder.
@BiffMoneyball @niimits I made it clear that i am not comparing this to murder. The comment is about the argument against this whole "intent" issue. Recklessness in some cases is not that much different from "intent". And I simply want to point that out. Albeit my examples are a bit more extreme than this issue.
To everyone defending Beverly by saying that it wasn't a dirty play:
Let me ask: Do you people think a person who kills someone because they were driving drunk should be considered free of blame and not charged with manslaughter (and potentially murder) because it wasn't their intent to kill anyone?? Does the fact that they were being extremely reckless not warrant some blame and responsibility??
What about in the case of a 'depraved heart murder' where someone fires a bullet in an open crowd. Would you say that the defense is justified in claiming that the person did not "intend" to murder anyone? They were just recklessly firing a bullet in a crowd? Therefore since there was no malicious intent they should be acquitted?
I wanna make it clear that I AM NOT COMPLAINING THAT THIS PLAY WAS AS SEVERE AS THOSE CRIMES. It certainly does not come close to the severity of murder and even thinking that is disgusting, so I most certainly am not implying that.
BUT those example clearly show that this whole PC bs about "to be fair Beverly wasn't intentionally trying to hurt westbrook so its OK" needs to stop. BECAUSE he in full conscience and knowing the potential ramifications of his actions ran into (the knees) a player who was clearly calling a timeout, and for what? Lets say westbrook doesn't get injured there, what did the rockets gain? They weren't getting the ball there!
In a league where people have been bitching about how "hack a howard" takes away from the game, how is this ridiculous play being ignored to this extent?
@johnw1104 @niimits that was my point, this was an unnecessary play AFTER a time out and is being downplayed simply on discretion. If a coach doesn't have the right to play who he wants at his discretion, then players causing others to miss games on unnecessary plays should be fined as well no?? The league opened up this pandora's box themselves, so they should be held accountable.
1 year, 4 months ago on Report: Westbrook could return in weeks, not months
If the NBA can fine the Spurs for sitting starters, should they now fine Pat Bev for us not being able to see Westbrook in the playoffs?
I was hoping for the lakers to miss the playoffs all season, but watching hardens antics now, i would love for us to sweep the rockets
1 year, 4 months ago on Thunder fall in the regular season finale to the Bucks, 95-89
its always a pass to lin with 4 to go HAHA
Harden would have passed that to lin. DAMN wish we had gotten parsons!