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give a million monkeys a million paint sets and paint for a million years and one may paint the Mona Lisa. Get a million middle infield defensive wizards and you may get one Ozzie Smith
4 months ago on What’s A Ryan Jackson?
@TellMyWifeISaidHello @HunterStricklandsOedipalComplex @Lobo Branch Rickey "Luck is the residue of design" - gotta give Sabean and Bochy their due (versus Ned and Donnie mediocrity)
4 months, 1 week ago on Get To Know This Year’s Foreign Imports: Japan
Why all the assumptions Maddon would be replacing Donnie?
Maddon would only leave to be with Friedman AND for a promotion
Therefore Maddon is being considered to replace Coletti or for some front office position whether it be a V.P., director, GM in the Friedman management consortium
4 months, 1 week ago on Joe Maddon is now a free agent, are the Dodgers next?
RIP MSTI - followed you since the beginning - can now look forward to the evolution of the new endeavor - good luck Mike
1 year, 1 month ago on Death To MSTI. Long Live MSTI.
@Disgruntled Goat @Kewldood69 I had Adelphia for many years because at the time (1990's) it was the only cable service in my area in the foothills. I took a long time to get the wires strung up here to get service - years longer than other areas of Los Angeles. Adelphia was lousy especially with service and maintenance and quality of signal. Then Adelphia went out of business and what was left was bought up by TimeWarner. I signed up with TW and they were so abusive and nasty, I dropped them and found Champion Cable had come into my area. Champion has been wonderful. I have nothing good to say about TW - I just hope my cable company can buy the Dodger channel feed from TW
2 years, 1 month ago on Say Hello to “SportsNet LA”; Billions of Dollars
@EephusBlue should not be too hard to make a similar Ned Colletti Lego using that same idea - he needs something to commemorate his time with the Dodgers - he surely will not rate a bobblehead doll
I have relatives who make Lego structures and then put a cherry bomb in it. I would sure like a Ned Lego to light a cherry bomb under
2 years, 1 month ago on Dodgers Depth Chart Analysis: Can Anyone Play Third?
Musial,passes at 92
2 years, 1 month ago on Someone Should Make a Database of Players Who Insist On Playing Through Injury
R.I.P. Stan the Man
@DeucesWild Since Vin Scully has numerously said Uggla in Swedish mans Owl, I will go for that. If Ross Porter was still there we would have heard that at least every time at bat for Uggla instead of maybe once in a series from Vin. What is Swedish for Goat?
2 years, 1 month ago on 2012 Dodgers in Review #49: RP Jamey Wright
@Yoinkage It is amazing that Miami would have chosen to line their stadium with live aquariums (aquaria?) when they could have had such magnificent ANC signage
2 years, 1 month ago on Welcome Back-Ish, Alfredo Amezaga
@Chris Jackson @Tntfan13 @Mike Petriello @DavePomerantz since Diaz will not be limited by the CBA controls on international spending, I would hope that the Dodgers would be in the mix. They often have been able to keep a lid on deals and then surprise people later. It is a risk of course, but an added benefit with going all out for talent like Diaz is that it gives future defectors and foreign players a good impression of the Dodgers who need to get that international cachet back
@capnsparrow @Amy Wong, Ph.D. Candidate Berkman when healthy was a true RBI machine (1200 RBI in 14 yrs.) - not to be confused with the ersatz RBI machine Juan Rivera (539 RBI). Hope Berkman gets an honest chance.
@Amy Wong, Ph.D. Candidate so is a duck-billed platypus the result of a duckrosaur sleeping with a beaver?
@Chris Jackson a CJ question. CJ Retherford looks on past paper records as being filler in the minors, however, recent improved offense and good winter ball record seems to show some ability. Given the few players in the minors listed for 3B, does he have any future? Have no comments available on his defense. Is he just another Josh Fields/Jeff Bailey AAA/AAAA bat?
CJ Retherford (minor league 3B) seemed to be the only position player with extensive success. A few pitchers did OK, but they all had so few innings pitched. I followed most of Dee's box scores - a little better hitting and OBP, but still too many fielding errors, strike outs and baserunning blunders (CS, picked off etc.). He had inconsistent playing time due to trips home, being benched or having many other SS on his team. I think he needed consistent work to keep improvement going as he started strong but tailed off towards the end offensively. He did hit some triples and I think overall he was making better contact than the last year or so.
@DavePomerantz It was not too long ago that the many thought the fate of the team depended upon infield depth like Aaron Miles and Jamey Carroll. The fan base got too caught up in their importance. Having infield spare parts available is important, but the success of the team will not depend upon them.
@Chris Jackson @Cat Facts the market shelves seem pretty bare
What is the situation with Tyler Ogle - he moved up quickly but now I don't even see him on MSTI's depth chart for the minors - is he still in the picture?
2 years, 2 months ago on Dodgers Add J.P. Howell to Bullpen
@Chris Jackson @Cat Facts Thanks CJ - personally, I would like to see TFed spend another year in the minors especially working on the hitting and being an everyday player - having the Dodgers get a veteran back up for a year in the majors - no need to rush any players through the minors now that they can purchase bodies to fill the MLB uniforms
@Cat Facts The Fangraphs article
@Cat Facts The Fangraphs Top 15 Dodger Prospects article suggests that TFed will soon overtake A.J. to become the main catcher. I am sorry, I do not see TFed being more than A.J.'s back up. Maybe not an All Star, but A.J. certainly has solid stats and is defined by all the intangibles he wields. His head is always in the game without being an intense irritating player. He leads that pitching staff like a master and I think his personality keeps lots of players loose and ready. I see him as a coach as soon as he hangs up the spikes
@ccaarrllooss "Furbush" would obviously be a name more fun to pay around with than "Howell". Think of all the innuendos the guys here could come up with for "Furbush"...
Even if you could do something with a "Thurston P. Howell the Third", it does not work as wll as Furbush
(agree completely strictly from a baseball sense - Furbush seeems like a true value)
2 years, 2 months ago on 2012 Dodgers in Review #48: RP Kenley Jansen
@DavePomerantz @IBBFTW @CodyStumpo People are not realizing how little the Dodgers have to trade for their hopes of Stanton, Felix and other top players. KC sent a package of prospects for James Shields that had 3 players rated much higher than the Dodger's best prospect (Zach Lee rated #42). Toronto sent a package of prospects for R.A. Dickey that the Dodgers could in no way match even with ZLee, Puig, Reed and Pederson included.
As much as Dodger fans here prize ZLee, every team already has a prospect comparable to ZLee. Puig is rated #92 as an MLB prospect and as he is still owed $40 milion, he is not exactly marketable to other teams.
I would love to be able to trade Dodger prospects for stars, but fans here tend to over rate Dodger assets as they have in the past with Trayvon Robinson, Blake DeWitt, XPaul and many others
@Dang88 the face is not Asian enough looking - it looks more like former Dodger Ismael Valdes
2 years, 2 months ago on 2012 Dodgers in Review #46: RP Josh Lindblom
@Dang88 @Amy Wong, Ph.D. Candidate valuable collector's item like the upside down printed stamps
@Deuce It cut off part of my last sentence that said we need Chris Jackson to give us a primer
@Deuce I think that Ethier being discussed in trades is less a factor of him not being wanted, but more that the Dodgers are seeing weaknesses in the squad and the organization and Ethier may be the only piece that they could trade. They would not consider trading Kemp, Kershaw, Agon and probably A.J. No other players would bring back much in return (MEllis, Cruz, Billingsley, Capuano, Harang,Dee or any minor leaguers). Despite much improvements brought by the new regime, the Dodgers are still weak in quality of High minor league level prospects especially in the infield and catching department. They may be seeing they are desperate for a good lead off hitter and while they have improved the defense at SS and LF this summer, HanRam while a major defensive improvement over Dee, is below average on defense and Kemp is in the bottom tier of CF players defensively and not likely to get much better.
I do not think the Dodgers really wanted to trade Ethier and still might not, but it may be the only means to deal with some of their weaknesses
Some perspective on prospects: The Dodgers had been seen as talking about James Shields and R.A. Dickey. Both of those players were traded for packages of prospects that the Dodgers could not have come close to matching. KC gave up a #3 prospect (who was awarded minor league player of the year - Meyers) a #30, a top 20 from last year and one just below #100.
Toronto gave up probably the most sought after prospect in all of baseball in catcher Travis Arnauld at #11, a #83 and more
The Dodgers best prospect is Zach Lee who is rated #42 and Puig is rated #92 but of no interest to other teams due to still being owed $40 million. The Dodgers have some serviceable pitchers and outfielders in the high minors, but no top prospects and do not have almost any IF or catchers in the minors who could be seen as becoming valuable major leaguers Jackson to give us a good primer on the value or lack thereof of the Dodgers of the furture
@Amy Wong, Ph.D. Candidate Ethier had a lot of problem letting ground balls and line drives go by him to the wall that other players would have stopped and prevented runners from taking extra bases. Those are things that do not show up well in the stats, but baseball people see. Ethier did improve a lot on defense in the last couple of years so that he really was not that much of a liability out there. He did do well in getting to fly balls and his throwing did improve also. Much of it was weak decision making early on like taking a poor route to a ground ball
@EephusBlue Regrettably a good idea.
Dre is likable and has some value as a hitter. I am a big fan.
However, he is about to turn 31 and his trade value will seriously decline with time, he holds a position that is needed to either eventually move Kemp to or move a young prospect like Puig, Castellanos or Pederson up to. The team desperately needs a true lead off hitter and defensive CF. The team also needs prospects - the farm system is graded poorly especially with good prospects in the high minors.
Dre would appear to be the only player of quality who has some appeal to another team who could bring something in return - who is replaceable. Obviously a Kemp, A.J.and Kershaw have appeal, but could not be replaced
@Mike Petriello @DBrim I like Ethier and hate the idea of casting him off, but realistically his time in RF is limited. Kemp will need to move out of CF and RF is the ideal position for Kemp to move to. Also young players like Castellanos, Joc Pederson and Yasiel Puig will be coming up and will challenge a declining Ethier in a couple of years. In two years, Ethier wlll have almost zero trade value with a then salary of $18+ million and 33 years old.
As a business, it means that Ethier should be traded while his value is high.. Kemp is only holding onto CF by reputation and not skills. The Dodgers do not have a good pure CF prospect anywhere in the foreseeable future in the minors.
I see the team as a bit short on power to compete with the top offenses in the league and sending Ethier away only hurts that situation. Hopefully, an infielder or two with some pop added to the mix (replacing MEllis and Cruz maybe) could balance that a bit.
@plaza234 anybody here remember him or ever see hm in a game? He was back up to Mickey Hatcher and Franklin Stubbs in the late 80's - an earlier version of Jerry Sands at bat. Before many readers here became fans I suppose
Best accomplishment might be that he got to pinch hit 4 times in the 1988 World Series - maybe only matched by Punto on this team - Crawford started in the WS but probably did not PH
2 years, 2 months ago on The Dodger Offseason Isn’t Close To Being Over
@EephusBlue @Table I had not heard that either (about Crawford not wanting lead off). More reason to get Bourn as there would be no other starters who would be ideal lead off men.
A line-up of Bourn, Crawford followed by HanRam, Kemp & Gonzo would put up some curly numbers on the board
@Table Carl Crawford is the only one with extensive experience and success leading off. He actually has batted 2nd more and thus having a 1-2 of Bourn/ Crawford would be optimum.
Crawford batted lead off in 1700 PA and 2nd in 2800 PA in his career
Crawford has been rated the 2nd best baserunner over the past decade by Bill James and Baseball Prospectus (second to Ichiro). Bourn has been the best baserunner over last year and the past few years.
If no Bourn, then Crawford definitely should lead off as long as he has a decent OBP
@ccaarrllooss @efb I agree completely about the offense. The defense is better than last year with Crawford and HanRam replacing Dee and Rivera. I am most worried about the offense since even though the team is better on offense this year with HanRam and Gonzo especially, they will not score like some of the top offensive teams will (Cincy and Wash. to name a couple)
They team has too many players who are not power hitters - MEllis, Cruz, A.J. and Crawford and Bourn if he is hired. Ethier is vital, I like him and I see so much defensive improvement in him the last couple of years that he does not really hurt the team there any longer.
It is just that Ethier is on the downslope of his career. He will be bumped out in a year or so by Kemp needing to move out of CF or by young players like Castellanos, Puig or Joc Pederson coming up. It may be better to trade Ethier now while his value is still high than trying to move him in 2 years when he will in decline and overpriced.
@efb I was for trading Ethier in the past , but now do not feel all that great about it now. I always liked him. However by trading him and getting a Bourn, I do think the team is stronger defensively and the pitching will need that, but giving up Ethier gives up a lot of power that is also needed. The team will eventually have to move Kemp out of CF even if it is in the future and not now for Bourn, so Kemp can only move to RF (now or in the near future) so Ethier may have to be able to be moved some day. Now is probably at his highest value, so this being a business....
I was probably the first person advocating a trade of Ethier and picking up Bourn as a FA - back in July , even before the big Boston trade. I still think it would improve the club - especially adding defense. Crawford (LF), Bourn in CF and Kemp in RF would be the best defensive outfield in all of MLB.
I would love to see a vital young SS and the added defense of Bourn in center. I think the resulting team would have offensive value, but people will have to realize that even with the added power of Gonzo and HanRam, the result could still be a team in the bottom half of the league in terms of HR's. Last year they hit 116 HR and will do much better than that this year, but in no way will their offense measure up to Wash. and Cincy and a few other (who also have comparable pitching to the Dodgers)
If you optimally figure Kemp and Gonzo for a combined 60-70 HR, HanRam for 20-25, leaving the other 5 starters averaging about 10 HR apiece (Crawford, Bourn, Cruz, MEllis and A.J.) and maybe 10 more from the bench, that makes maybe 140-150 HR when there are teams in the league who will easily reach 180-200 HR. Good thing Pujols and Fielder are gone from the league.
For the Dodgers to succeed (with or without Ethier), they will have to have some pitchers really step up - like Billingsley and Ryu. They will need the defense to back up good pitching. Also the offense will have to "manufacture" runs, meaning they cannot waste at bats on bunting and will have to focus on extending rallies and OBP. Crawford, Bourn, HanRam and Kemp will be important as baserunners beyond just their bats
@IBBFTW @The_Real_Paul @Antonio_G @EephusBlue Bill James and Baseball Prospectus rate Crawford the second best baserunner (to Ichiro) over the last 10 years. Bourn was the highest rated baserunner last year. Can you imagine them at the top of the order with Kemp, HanRam and Gonzo coming up. (Dee was rated the 65th and 66th best baserunner by BP and Fangraphs, so you would have to go back many years to have a potent baserunning threat like that - Furcal great, but so often on the DL)
As long as Mattingly does not try to have MEllis batting second anymore...
2 years, 2 months ago on 2012 Dodgers in Review #44: RP Todd Coffey Is a Socialism
@darknesssss I have watched every trailer and interview with all the principals, so i was expecting the difference
2 years, 2 months ago on Happy Holidays, Dodger Fans
@darknesssss I was planning to go to see Les Mis today and have been eagerly awaiting it, but my niece went in for an early c-section and had a baby 3 days early which postponed my Les Mis plans - I will be going maybe Thursday now. Hope it was as good as expected
I can only wish all of you a season of peace
Schumaker is not on the Depth Chart - does he get included as an outfielder or infielder?
I have not checked it out, but I believe I read some scribe recently that wrote Brandon League and Tolleson were the only relief pitchers who did not allow an inherited runner to score. I do not know where to verify that. If true that is good, but also may be deceptive as to how they were used. Mattingly often likes to start an inning with a reliever rather than bring them in as a "fireman" with men on base.
This was the first time I did not get a malware warning as this being an attack site - hope all is well on the server now. I know Mike has put in much blood sweat and tears over this site
2 years, 2 months ago on 2012 Dodgers in Review #42: RP Brandon League
@ThtsaPaddlin Tony Lazzeri hit 60 in 1925 which I believe is the PCL record. Tony was brought up to the Yankees the next year and had a Hall of Fame career there.. He hit his 60 before Ruth did it in the majors. Lazzeri held the minor league record at the time, but that has been beaten over the years a few times
The PCL is over 100 years old and has changed a lot. Joe Dimaggio spent 4 years in the PCL. Many big stars came out of that league in the old days
2 years, 2 months ago on Dallas McPherson Is Just Going to Love Albuquerque, Isn’t He
@Guitar @Sangro Azul Peter Billingsley the kid star of "AChristmas Story" is a successful producer in Hollywood now and never did porn. Scott Schwartz, the kid who sticks his tongue to the frozen flagpole has appeared in porn films, but not in the sex scenes. You would think tonguing a frozen pole does give a clue to career aptitude and talents.
2 years, 2 months ago on 2012 Dodgers in Review #38: RP Mike MacDougal
So glad to have you back. I hope all your loyal readers find their way back too
2 years, 2 months ago on ...And We're Back
@Mike Petriello Looks like a body of Fernando Valenzuela (#34() with Ryu's arms and head photoshopped
2 years, 2 months ago on Sources: Dodgers to Acquire Skip Schumaker for Jake Lemmerman
@LA Woman @VietnamDodger Kenley listed at 6' '5" 260#
2 years, 2 months ago on Hyun-jin Ryu Beats Deadline To Add To Embarrassment of Dodger Pitching Riches
@HarryDoyle @JoeyE did they just photoshop his head on Fernando Valenzuela body - similar build - Ryu a little taller I think
@Omer Nats did not have Strasburg in the playoffs
2 years, 3 months ago on Dodgers Bid Farewell to Two Pitchers And Oh Good Lord Something Please Happen Already
Should the unthinkable happen and Ned and Stan not be able to sign Greinke, Paul Swyden of Fangraphs (but reported in ESPN) makes a case for Anibal Sanchez as the only back plan up worthy of note - all the others to consider have a wart or two. He compares the production for the last 3 years of each of the top 8 nest best FA pitchers and Sanchez is the leader or 2nd in almost every pitching stat - except BABIP, but he played for two very poor defensive teams during that time
I could live with signing only Sanchez and Ryu - if and only if you could count on Bills coming back strong.
However when it comes to Greinke and Sanchez - in the words of Coleman's exotic girlfriend at the end of "Trading Places" responding to the offer of the lobster or cracked crab...
"can't we have both"
To compete with teams like the Nats, the Dodgers will need a rotation of Kershaw, Greinke, Sanchez, Bills, Ryu
Agree completely with your assessments that the Dodgers are or need to be in the hunt for the starting pitchers, 4th or 5th outfielder who bats RH (should have some power too). Left side of infield help and maybe one of those people can back up 1B.
I like Kyle Seager and was promoting him to be looked at back in July before HanRam. Two Seagers on the left side in about 3 years would be interesting
The best thing that could happen is that the Dodgers trade for a solid young SS who could anchor the infield for years while HanRam moves to 3B (Cruz to utility and then 2B after MEllis), but is Ned strong enough to tell HanRam to move?
I agree if Dee Gordon has value to other teams , it might be wise to trade him. Although i am a hopeful fan of Dee Gordon, he has major weaknesses in fielding, batting and baserunning skills. I just saw an old report that someone had projected he would DEVELOP 4 tools - however, after over 4 years there has been almost no improvement in defense and baserunning and the hitting has been inconsistent. He continues the errors and baserunning blunders at the rate he did when he first came to pro ball. He has not learned and there are allusions to emotional problems lately. A fresh start for him might be a good thing for him.
My one remaining concern after all that is back up catcher. I am not sure TFed is ready. His batting in ALB was only passable due to the home stadium boost and he was a bust in the winter leagues. The 40 man roster only has 2 catchers and it is usually a policy to have a 3rd catcher on the 40 man somewhere in the minors for ready injury call up. Catching market is very thin and a decent catcher is gold, but I think a veteran back up should still be sought and allow TFed another year in the minors
2 years, 3 months ago on Winter Meetings, Day Three: The Calm Before the... Calm?
@Dang88 @Mike Petriello @Bob Meripol Have Doc Brown load up the DeLorean and bring us the 2011 versions of Kemp and Kershaw and the 2009 versions of HanRam and Gonzo and the team will rock
2 years, 3 months ago on Winter Meetings Insani-fun Is Go