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You talking to me? The only stand I took was against nastiness and ridicule. So guess you think that is a really helpful strategy? And, by doing so, you are going to improve the Colts team? Grigson is going to say, "oh wow, I never thought of that. George really taught me something! "
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I have no problem with criticism and thought I said that. I just think there are better and worse ways to criticize people. Feedback about mistakes is different than vitriol. And research does show that harsh criticism is pretty much invariably destructive ... Most of this research concerns school or the workplace. Fan and blogosphere criticism is, I hope, less harmful, but I'm sure it is harmful.
I don't have a strong opinion on the Trent trade one way or the other at this point, but even if it turns out after another season to be a really bad trade, I'm not going to get as angry about it as it seems some fans are. Yes, first round picks ARE valuable. But GMs make some bad decisions, their judgment is not going to be perfect, that is inevitable. It will certainly be important for Grigson to know he made a bad decision and to try to figure out why so he doesn't make that same type of mistake again. People pointing out that he made a bad decision is one thing, the tone and manner if the criticisms of Trent and Grigson and others (and the repetitiveness) is what I take issue with. I do not take issue with stating that you think it was a bad decision and pointing out why. Much of the criticism I read seems to me to cross the line into ridicule and an attack on the person; it goes beyond what I think is reasonable.
I do feel protective of athletes. That is, in part, simply consistent with what made me become a psychologist. But I also taught on the college level (Division I) and had many athletes in my classes (probably because I gave lectures on sex, but that is another story). I was astounded with the criticism these guys had to put up with and be gracious about. They handled it very well, and I have great admiration of that. But is was very painful for them and harmful. It was never helpful. I thought much of it was cruel and unnecessary ... Some reporters managed to do their job and point out deficiencies without being harmful, others did not. I don't know why, but that is something I really think is totally unnecessary and terribly destructive..
Well, I do think it's fine for people to have their own opinions and to talk about what they want. I chose to talk about how boring I find repeated trashing of the Trent trade and that I don't like all the criticism of Trent. Actually not all that contrary. Just because I think people have a right to their opinion doesn't mean I give up my right to disagree or criticize!
Trent is only a liability on the roster (well, I wouldn't use that word, but whatever), if the Colts could find a better or cheaper player to replace him. As it is, we'll get to see him next year and then people can go on and on about how the critics were right or wrong. I hope they're wrong, because that would be better for the Colts and Trent.
I do not at all like most of the criticism of GMs, coaches or players. In general these are hard working, good people who are trying their best. I have no problem criticizing management or coaching DECISIONS or pointing out that players aren't good at certain things, or made a bad throw or decision or whatever. But so much of the criticism seems like vitriol about them as people, treating them like they are stupid, horrible people. It is one thing to criticize players who don't try or don't work hard, but some players, like DHB, work their butts off and are great people and get blasted very cruelly.
As a psychologist, let me tell you that research on catharsis shows that it is overrated ... If it is venting anger, it actually leads to more anger, really. Think about it. And cruel criticism may be what is going to keep Trent and DHB from playing their best. Clearly they are pressing and their confidence is shot. Yeah, it's football and the guys should be tough, but no one is immune to the kind of criticism these guys have gotten.
Off my soapbox, for now.
Since you addressed me, let me point out that the comments that I replied to seemed to be implying that Trent was a liability. That's the point that I was addressing and I stand by my comments.
If he is worth a first place pick or not is actually another issue.
However, in either case, the tone and manner in which people are discussing Trent is, I think, unnecessary and unhelpful. That's just my take and you are welcome to disagree.
I am also totally bored with the conversation about whether or not it was a good trade. In my opinion, there is nothing left to say or discuss at this point. I wish there could at least be a moratorium until the draft. At which point I would accept additional discussion of who was available at that point for the Colts to draft if only they hadn't traded for Trent. At least that would be a new discussion.
But if you really enjoy this sort of repetitive discussion, go for it. Obviously you didn't like the discussion I was interested in having, but we're both entitled to indulge our own preferences and discuss what we want.
That's not even amusing. What benefit do you get from insulting players? Everyone, including Trent, knows he had a bad year rushing. But everyone should also know he had a good year as a blocker and a receiver. Disappointing for a first round pick/trade? Absolutely! Was he a liability on the field? I think that would be an amazingly unreasonable conclusion. Who else could they have gotten or put in who would have been better this season? Given his struggles rushing, could the coaches have called better plays? Probably. But why some fans and the Colts blogosphere keep going on and on trash talking Trent amazes me. Very sad. For everyone.
In public they talk about it as a problem of confidence and of familiarity with the players and playbook. I assume they are working on that in private and in practice. Not sure what you think the problem is ... What they should be working on that you think they wouldn't be working on?
Fair comment. Since he was OC coordinator for all of Harbaugh's tenure, he deserves some credit or blame for those years. I agree that his play calling is sometimes disturbing, though that is probably true of any coach. He tends not to take blame ... remember him defending the decision to go for the field goal at the end of regulation in the Fiesta Bowl. Also tends to support rather than blame his players, such as the kicker in the same Fiesta Bowl. I find the former irritating, the latter wonderful.
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4 straight BCS bowl game births.
I love the great route running ... Last year I would have celebrated some of the young receivers just getting in the neighborhood of where they're supposed to be ... too many times the young receivers didn't even manage to get where they were supposed to be. I think it was Brazill who just stopped running, looked like he decided Luck wasn't going to throw to him but he did ... And Brazill was loping along leisurely yards from the spot.
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Good draft, but San Francisco is where Stanford players go to die. So I'd pick someone else there ...
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Sorry, but calling for more passes in the first half, when the OL was so porous, the receivers couldn't get open, and passes were being dropped or sailing over the receivers heads just seems, well, totally unrealistic, at best. To be clear, it's fine to call for more passing if you like it and think it would be more fun to watch. But, of seemed to me that both the offensive and defensive plans were really off and, luckily, they were able to adjust at halftime. But it's not like passing more in the first half would have solved the problem ... They changed a lot more than the proportion of runs vs passing.
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sober, gentle, and sedate.
"stories which would have outraged their douce minds"
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I believe you meant chock full.
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But, I didn't disagree with the bit about TRich's relative success out of the different formations or about TRich vs Brown ...
Try not to be so frustrated. I think it may work out fine over time ... TRich and the coaches seem to think things are progressing ... I think the coaches are really smart and will figure something out. And if it does or doesn't ... it won't help your health or the situation to get so frustrated. Why not give it a few more weeks at least.
Have a nice day ...
1 year, 3 months ago on Crazy Talk
You aren't exactly correct, aren't responding to what I actually said and/are contradicting what you said ... Depending on which point (yes, some of what you said responds to some of what I said, but out of the context of the other things I said, eye.). Feel free to argue if it makes you happy ... But you just seem to be tying to argue rather than actually have a discussion, so I'm not interested ... And I was responding to buymymonkey's comments, not yours .... Which might be why the comments aren't meshing.
Well, I'm sure they all see what is happening with each formation. Pep is calling those plays, not Pagano, and it really does make me crazy, really. I try to keep in mind that part of the philosophy is that body blows pay off down the line ... You may get a yard or two in the first quarter, but by the 4th quarter, the same plays are getting 4 or 5 or more. Plus if you seem to be telegraphing plays, then you can really fool teams when you don't do the obvious. So, it makes me crazy too ... But I try to believe they know what they are doing ... And based on the SEA game in particular, it seems like they might.
Yup ... Luck is amazing ... Has been for years! He was under hyped coming into the NFL. Glad to have so much company on this bandwagon.
But one really great thing about this franchise at this time is that they are building a solid team around him, defense, running game, special teams ... It's not just a QB and receivers. That's wonderful for everyone ....
To my surprise, some people seem to remember my comments ... and those folks know I'm a Stanford fan. I was also a Colts fan before many of you were born ... From Ted Marchibroda's first term as head coach in Baltimore. So ... I'm thrilled the Colts got Andrew ... And thrilled with how they are building a great team and a complete team around him ...
Wow! What a negative take on Bradshaw ... I think you are totally off base ...
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I don't have a theoretical or emotional problem with the power run concept. I've seen it work and think it can be exciting, effective, whatever (Stanford, the 49ers, thought not Sunday!). I'm not convinced that it will or won't work for the Colts because they may not have the personnel to make it work. For their level (college not NFL), Stanford is a much bigger, tougher team than the Colts (both lines, especially). For decades Stanford was a finesse QB driven team ... that was fine too though not consistently successful for them. I'm all for winning and am OK with whatever works. Like many of you, I do go nuts when calls get conservative...
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Talk to Kyle R ... He thinks the Colts actually stopped it.
Well, to state the obvious, this is exactly the type of offense Luck led in college with great success. I would like Luck to have options at the line ... To be set free in that sense (if he isn't). When he did in college, he'd run or pass depending on how he read the defense ... And he often picked the run. My guess is that there won't be another game with as high a % of runs as the SF game. I think the Colts will vary between 45-55% for each, depending the needs of the specific game ... I'm cool with that. My only concern about this offense is that they don't have the OL that he had in college ... So we'll have to see if they can succeed with their power runs ....
The cumulative impact is really important to keep in mind.
starting FBs at Stanford during Pep's years:
2010 Owen Marecic - also starting ILB
2011 Ryan Hewett
2012 Ryan Hewett - still at Stanford (5th year Sr)
@GregC Interesting take ... I'd make a list of all the insults/ad hominum attacks on me that I perceived, but I'm not that obsessive and don't have the time. I think it's ALWAYS valuable to hear how I am perceived by others ... so it's a good thing for me to hear what others have written about me here ... whether I agree or not, that is certainly what others are seeing. However, the notion that you and others weren't writing insults seems a bit indefensible, in my opinion. But, like I said, we're not going to agree with each others comments ... so that's that ...
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Umm ... Absolutely did say embarrassed, unsophisticated ... and 'fessed up to some of that right off ... And absolutely am a Stanford fan. But really didn't call anyone stupid and didn't defend Arians for 100% telegraphing plays because it protects Luck. Sorry if I've tried to correct misunderstandings ... I prefer being criticized for things I actually did ... And there are plenty of opportunities for that. I certainly will stop trying to set the record straight after this last attempt.
Amazing how bent out of shape some of you get ... amazing how insulting people here can be while criticizing someone, a bit but not entirely in/correctly, for being insulting. If it makes you feel better, go for it ...
Great analysis and explanation. I hope you can follow up on this after more games. I'd be interested in seeing how the Colts adjust after this game. Do they just keep it up and sacrifice Luck (cringe), do they somehow patch things up so the protection is better, do they do it less, whatever?
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Again, I didn 't call YOU stupid and, similarly but more egregiously, you are misquoting or misunderstanding what I wrote last year. How would 100% telegraphing plays protect Luck? If a sportswriter says something like that, I will think it's not accurate and he or she missed something. I would be much less likely to comment on if it's about a coach I'm not interested in, so there you are correct. If you are following my comments, which I'm sure you aren't (I'm just not that important), you'd also know that I openly opposed the hiring of Pep when his name came up because he didn't call the plays at Stanford so I didn't think he was ready. There is certainly no way we are going to agree on your comments or mine ...
Let's just skip to agreement on mutual disrespect.
Well, I seem to be totally unclear today. I didn't call anyone stupid. I accused the author of basically calling Pep Hamilton stupid. Yes, I think he was ridiculing him ... So if that passes for the intelligent discussions on this site that you refer to ... I am not impressed. But you can continue to be if you like.
Oops too continue, I have been following Stanford football since Jim Plunkett which mean: I'm old, have seen a few great QBs and a lot of really bad football. And am not loathe to criticize coaches, including Stanford coaches for various things (I do think Shaw lost the Fiesta bowl). Anyway, yes, I do have pretty thick skin ... And you threw a lot more insults than I did ... And I thought there was some substance to my comments ... OK if you didn't ...
Sorry you were so offended. The embarrassed comment was meant to be funny, so I obviously missed on tht. The stupid comment was not aimed at you, I was characterizing the opinion you seemed to be expressing ... So I missed on that too. But I do stand by my comments. If I read a sportswriter who is characterizing a coach as doing something as stupid as totally 100% telegraphing the plays, I'm not too likely to believe it. I suspect that coaches in general, and Pep in particular, are not that stupid and that there is more going on than the sportswriter realizes. If you were using hyperbole, sorry, but I don't think riling up fans against a coach that way is very useful. Yes, I've
I actually know that!! And that the QBs choice is also influenced by the defense ... taking what they offer, rather than just being stubborn about what your plan/philosophy might be.
To me, the article seemed to be making a more stark, more stupid accusation. Pep may have a philosophy that is unpopular with Colts fans and media, but he is not an idiot. If I misunderstood, sorry, but I am likely not the only one ...
I think you're going to be embarrassed by this column as the season progresses. The bad thing about that prediction is I'm not going to be in a position to know whether or not you're embarrassed. The good thing is that we'll actually see if the team succeeds with Pep's power run offense or not. He typically doesn't have two ways of lining up, one for the run, one for the pass ... especially since, at least at Stanford, Luck usually chose between run and pass at line of scrimmage ... So the notion of run vs pass formations doesn't make sense! I think you and other commenters who agree are jumping on an unsophisticated knee jerk prior opinion ... and not appreciating any subtleties of the situation (Like those who would jump on Luck for bad passes without realizing he has to let go of the ball before the receivers make their breaks, and sometimes they went e wrong way! That said, I agree the heap game was ugly, just not on why it was ugly. I'm going to try to find time to look at the all-22 tape and see what I think actually happened.
" Elway still does have the single-game passing record with six against Oregon State in 1980." Interesting ...
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Nothing like proving your critics right!! Wearing the jersey was no big deal .... Your responses make you look like a total idiot!! Better play as well this year or you're going to be a long term laughingstock.
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I think there is incredible emotion in sports ... Just not a lot of distain, at least from Luck.
You are a writer so I think you should be careful with language, just my belief, you can do whatever you like. Here is a definition of distain, as a refresher.
The feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt.
Consider to be unworthy of one's consideration.
noun. contempt - scorn - disregard
verb. despise - scorn - contemn - slight - misprize - disregard
Well, that's a profound addition to the discussion! Let's just drag out the issue forever, why don't we. Written with distain.
You have a very different opinion than I do and that is fine. But if you meant frustrated, say it. If you think his glance showed distain, I think you are incredibly inaccurate in your reading of nonverbal cues. I also think it would have been a very unfortunate thing and you are obviously free to think whatever you wish about it. That quality of Peyton Manning's is one that I think is extremely unfortunate and one that I don't think Luck shares ... But no one is perfect. The idea that the great ones 'especially' have moments like that is, to me, absolutely bizarre. I think it just reflects your beliefs and not the reality of how the great players behave. Maybe too many years of Peyton Manning (who I DO think is great ... Just not in this aspect of his behavior). Yes, of course, players can move on if they are professional at all. So?
Totally a fan's prerogative ... And totally understandable!
Distain is very, very different than frustration. Plus, why are you now asserting that his frustration (using your term) was at Avery trying to catch the pass with his helmet ... rather than frustration that the pass wasn't completed. I think it is a very bad thing for any athlete, especially a QB or other leader to glance in distain at any teammate. Even John Mc Enroe never did that toward a doubles partner ... Saved his distain and rages for the linesmen. Personally, I don't think distain is in Luck's nonverbal vocabulary.
If frustration is what was meant, a writer should use that term ... And I would not have commented on it.
Great football analysis and article.
Please leave out your reading of nonverbal cues ... It is not a skill on par with your football expertise. Your "disdainful glare" comment was way off, unnecessary, and an insult to both players.
I don't know about Ben, but Luck had the same sorts of drives when needed under Pep's West Coast offense at Stanford. So I don't think Arians's offense was the big factor here ... I think Luck really gets in a zone and makes it happen.
1 year, 6 months ago on Luck: Historical Greatness Inside Two Minutes
Luck had the same knack in College. I believe he also has a great record after picks, fumbles, etc. This is vintage Luck.
@Jayjaybe @RobertItoh Well you said two things that have merit: the O-line was bad and Arians doesn't see his RBs as relievers. The second, of course, supports my point that the issue is Arians' philosophy ... Not that they didn't have receivers who could be utilized in a short passing game. Otherwise, I pretty much disagree with everything you say. Protecting Luck was hardly a priority of Arians. Try to think a little more creatively. Arians has a lot of guys who could be receivers ... He didn't chose to use them that way ... It's his philosophy, not the personnel that led him to the long pass approach. There are good things about that ... But it was philosophy driven and hurt Luck physically. I'm thrilled to have Pep as the OC ...
1 year, 9 months ago on Tale of the Tape: A Few More Notes about Pep Hamilton's Offense
@Jayjaybe @RobertItoh I don't agree with you about Arians not having the talent for the short game ... He had his TEs and RBs ... Arians has a very strong philosophy and is adamant about the long game ... That's what was driving the offensive plan ...
@hankster And Luck will be less of a target because the plays don't take so very long to develop. And his accuracy should be better for many reasons including that he won't be throwing as much to where he expects the receiver to be, just to find out he didn't get there ... Less of a time lag with shorter passes. There will be long passes too ... Just more of a mix than with Arians.
Ertz won't be there for the Seahawks in round 2.
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@Colts fan in Utah I think Pep knows that play ... the Luck to Fleener high fade in the corner was even featured on their Pro Day ... Though some thought it was just a bad pass!!
1 year, 9 months ago on #CATweetbag: Grading Grigson
@Nate Dunlevy @Colt_Following @DougEngland @smonroe Well, I think there is a better chance that this season's offense will give Coby that sort of opportunity that that Arians' would ... Based on the fact that the Stanford offense under Pep does feature the TEs ... That's been a constant for several years.
1 year, 10 months ago on #CATweetbag: Grading Grigson
@hankster What about that has you worried? Stanford plays very, very tough football ... But they have always determined the pass/run proportions and the length of passes by the talent on the field. And they do tend to play clever football ... Not just try to have a guy rush straight ahead play after play when they are not getting anything. I think they will be much better than under Arians. I really do ... But we will see.