@jonathanjaeger I agree... if you're only stuck $50k you can climb out..... so, state and city schools sound like a great solution. Frankly, I want to live in a society where college education is affordable and paid for... because if everyone "levels up" in the country we can beat the other counties out there in the world in the race for the remaining jobs (not to mention the race to build global brands). the taxes those "level uppers" will pay in return for their education will easily pay for the investment.
@DougKalish Awesome feedback. This is very emotional for folks, but for me it's simply keeping an open mind to your choices... if my daughter comes to me and says "i want to spend the $250k you were going to spend on college on trying five different startup ideas for $50k each while living in the pool house" I would be overjoyed!!!
@mediainvestors It's irrelevant. There, I said it. :-)
Seriously, someone hiring you doesn't care if you learned your machine learning skills or photoshop sills on youTube, at MIT or from a friend--they care that you have them. And how good they are. Paper is an indication that you have a skill..... so it's a nice way to sort through the applications. A better way to sort is to see folks take a test/do the actual work.
@owenthomas come on Owen, man up. You did a lot of horrible reporting and printed anything anonymous you got. You forgot what it ment to be a journalist, a decent person and a friend. You need to really look at the years you spent at Valleywag being a huge dbag and make good.
I was fond of you back in the day, but you went to a dark place. Life is short and the smart/important people have long memories. I'm just saying you did very bad work and you should try to rehabilitate you're image by doing a better job.
just my .02 as a former fan/friend.
@andrewbaron @owenthomas @Chris Sacca Of course Andrew! Agree 100%. Owen was a solid journalist back in the day, then he lost his way and started making stuff up to get page views inside of the Valleywag debacle.
Everyone's opinion of Owen is that a) he's a huge douche, b) he makes stuff up and C) that it's sad because he used to do good work.
Owen: focus on facts and be a good person. Life is short.
The issue Adam is the cost to value of higher education. If college was, say, $5,000 or $10,000 a year, and students could leave school with $10-20k in loans, I think it would be an OK investment.
However, students coming out of NYU are stuck $100-200k by the time the graduate and try and find a $30-40k job that, ironically, has nothing to do with their degree the majority of times.
So, you're correct at the $20-40k over four year price point, and the "skip school" folks are correct at the $100-200k in debt price point.
@clayhebert Agreed it will be hard to be #1 in the services space--but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try. That's why I said the company needs to split into two big units and let them both create their own cultures: hacker and content. These are two very different groups of people I'm sure you would agree. Getting the content out of the HQ in the Valley and in Los angeles means that you would be able to make Sunnyvale the hacker den and LA the content hub. I think Yahoo Mail is second only to GMAIL and it has a lot of loyal fans. it's 85% of the product GMAIL is... which means they could close the gap in three years.
@JohnWantz Thanks John.... happy to be here. As I mentioned, Sarah and Paul and I are all good friends for a long time and I'm excited to be in the mix here at PandoDaily.
I would put the disclaimer about them being investors at the top of the post.
@harvardlaw74 Note: that was not me. I don't know who posted that as me, but I would never call Sarah an idiot.
@Calacanis Note: this is not me. :-)