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another qb comment, video was available of the spring game qb's Glas. vs. Berk. , judging from that footage, Glas. may be only a nose behind Berk.. This assumes that Mauk (rated top 25 high school qbs this year) won't pass them both between now and August. Missouri's excellent qb recruiting just keeps getting better. No wonder they have three in a row in the NFL. Can anyone catch a healthy Franklin?, doubtful. But if he gets the flu or something can Missouri win anyway? probably can.
Some people in Columbia are saying this could have been handled better by the young men involved but that the bigger story is the over-reaction by media and are questioning some public officials handling of the situation. If you damage something, For heaven's sake, put your phone and address on the damaged property so you can't be accused of having no intention of making it right. If you are a coach or player you are going to be under a microscope. This is still being debated, Berkesstrer says he did not leave the scene and therefore even this misdemeanor may not stand up to scrutiny
@buddha22 and SEC fan, this is a good cross section of thoughts about rotating cross division opponents. Counting rotating cross division games is a needless way to irritate conference members. The idea that coaches players and fans won't get excited about cross division games if they don't determine the division title is just not valid. Actually toning down the do-or-die nature of some conference games could be better for the conference. Even television people are aware and talk about every team's series record with another team. Players and coaches are not going to be less aware or determined to win the next match up.
@MiloMoon In an unbalanced league 9 games is not that tough for the top 5 teams for example. . . HOWEVER In a balanced league and I would say the Big 10 and Big 12 are a little more balanced than the SEC at this point in football history, 9 conferences games is like having 9 rival games in a row. So what is right? I don't know. But it can't be right to pick a division champion based on a different schedule of opponents.
@Dynamite fan Forgot to say Hurrah for Mizzou and the SEC last night as Missouri beat Oklahoma in the Big 12 baseball championship
@Dynamite fan good call, go ahead and name the SEC champs in those years. Missouri helps the league significantly but the SEC has a right claim to be a decent basketball league now. Actually I think that's one of the big reasons the move for Missouri made sense. A team like Kentucky gives Missouri a guaranteed litmus test during year's when it's opponents don't do as well as they need to push their rankings up. It's a great fit for both. It's a great fit in football, and basketball. Tragic that Missouri's Big 12 champion wrestling program will not have an SEC venue.
Missouri and it's new association the SEC won the last shot of a very old baseball rivalry yesterday when Missouri defeated Oklahoma for the Big 12 championship. Missouri will now play Arizona in the NCAA play-offs. At the end of the game a hot headed Sooner had to be escorted to first base by the umpire and the Missouri catchers after a high inside pitch. It was all just too dang good.
My opinion is permanent opponents that count toward the conference championship totally invalidate the conference championship. Let these teams schedule a non conference weighted game with the rival. So in a year when the league doesn't schedule them, they schedule themselves in early season perhaps at the opposite venue. A rival can have a losing season going and jump up and beat an undefeated team and ruin there chances of playing in a top bowl game. The whole concept is ridiculous. OR just get the rival in the same division and let them play every year.
@JohnVol This is the time of year that they should start having bowl games in North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Michigan. We are obviously suffering from college football withdrawal and night time temps are down in the high 30s and 40s. I'm going to suggest the closest college campuses to the east shore Lake Michigan sand dunes. You won't be interested in California or Florida scenery after you check out some of sun worshipers there. My personal favorite probably Warren Dunes, not al that far from Notre Dame, just across the Lake from Northwestern. Nobody is trying to move any further south than that for sure.
Programs and conferences want every advantage they can get. Players learn to handle cold weather one game at a time and as the weather changes everyday at practice. Sudden changes in game climate have to be a disadvantage more for the passing game than the running game. Cold air helps teams that are less fit because it holds more oxy. moles per breath. It's widely known that altitude has the opposite effect. You can pick a case study and say the travelers won anyway but if you look at 100 games, the outcomes are going to be significantly affected. Coaches manipulate indoor and outdoor practices based on where the next game is going to be played. The center of the continent is more extreme than the coast. It's possible for SEC teams to play at Missouri in late November in snow and wind chills in the single digits. Jeff Foxworthy did a funny welcome routine for Missouri to the SEC where he jokes that halloween costumes are made to fit over snow suits there. Climate is not just a latitude thing. Proximity to lakes and oceans make a difference. There is no doubt that an early Sept game where North Dakota plays in South Florida is going to be a humidity (oxy.) and heat challenge. Personally I think the bowls, or playoffs and all inter-collegiate games should played on campus. It should be a flip of a coin not media opinion of who is the higher seed.
@MIZSEC if you are in Columbia and see any follow up to this in the Tribune, radio broadcasts, or just grapevine substantiated facts, I'd be interested to know If Berk. was the driver?, what the prosecutor decides based on the whole story?, If the responsible party pays for the damages? and of course what Coach Pinkel decides to do about this if Berk. was the driver. I'm sure the result in Columbia will be a fair one considering this past years events on being responsible with a vehicle AND I think anyone who is interested now has a better idea of what kind of mis-conduct is in question here, it's much harder to jump to unfair conclusions at this point, even if Berk. gets dismissed from the team or convicted of "Leaving the Scene".
@JohnVol Read the article. I think you're off base on some of your frequent contributions. I don't write in and say you should keep your opinion to yourself. This is a story and comment format. Mostly it's pointless to go beyond one opinion against another. In this case, it was possible Johns article was unfairly brief. After reading it i'm moving a little toward John's idea, but I'm still of the opinion that it made the young man look a little worse than he deserved given what is known right now. This could still change either way. He could come out and say he was the driver and he never intended to make good on the damage, even though we know he went back to the scene to see what was done. It could also turn out that he wasn't even the driver, just someone who left the scene and didn't know he had an equal responsibility to report it with the driver immediately. It could be anything in between. I want to be fair and update my opinion as I learn more. If you or John get to Columbia MO to see a Missouri v Vol game I'll buy you a beer (then we'll drive fast this same narrow street as we head to the bar-b-que house).
@John at MrSEC Thanks, I looked at the link. It looks like the problem for Berk. is going to be somewhere in between the worst possible scenario and the least. The owner of the damaged car said that "He had no doubt that it was an accident" AND "neither of the two people in the car appeared in any way to be intoxicated". also "that they came back to the scene to see how much damage had been done though neither immediately admitted they were the driver of the vehicle that did the damage". Berk did tell police later that he was "involved" but did not say he was the driver of the car that did the damage. The article reads like it would at worst, a lowest class felony in Missouri for the driver of the car (which could or might not be Berk.) Who ever was the driver, needs appropriate judgement over the failure to immediately tell the owner who did it. It's going to come down to this being a pattern of bad behavior or one incident where somebody had to be fingered before he took responsibility for an accident. We still don't know why they hit the parked car? using a cell phone, dog or child running into the street?, horseplay while driving, neighbor backing out of a driveway, meeting another driver in a narrow passage? No drugs or alcohol were involved. Probably not speeding. Could be "carless and imprudent" . It looks like all the facts are going to come out and the damaged party is going to be paid. I guess only Pinkel is going to know whether this points to Berk. needing to go or grow his character. This is clearly not a smear story so that word was too strong, but it not the typical bad drunk or high driving incident college age drivers sometimes act out.. Forr me, by itself, I wouldn't have dismissed this player from any of my former college teams and I don't expect Pinkel to, unless more bad history comes out. Clearly the bigger story needs to be told to be fair to the player..... So I just told some of it.
@John at MrSEC one more thing, I understand your point better now that you explain that you view the conference change as related to net proceeds. I'm sure anyone would agree that the opposite would be less logical and it's a part of a the big equation that FSU is discussing just like Missouri did.
@John at MrSEC I'm not a Missouri alum. I post a lot of comments. I'm not picking a fight and you know it. Just find out what really happened and quit trying to blame someone else for what could be a good story if you just follow up a little more
@MoKelly i think that the game plan will change. It will become more or a battle of the lines and the defenses but Missouri will be improved in both of those aspects. Needless to say we all want to see Franklin play and entire year.
@John at MrSEC It's not a smear story if he knowingly damaged something and didn't want to report it, and this could be the case. If it's just not knowing he did some damage or he was trying to find the owner without having the media jump all over him..... it's a smear story. You tip your attitude by not writing back that you will follow up this story by getting the facts and completing your first story. You write some good pieces, why would you not recognize the journalistic responsibility or challenge?
@big12source aaahhhh wait a minute, Missouri won the Big 12 north twice recently and defeated the two dominant teams in the conference Texas and Oklahoma recently. I would say that's "coming close"
ok, I'll bite, why did the Missouri spending push them toward the SEC. Because the official line from the President and board was that they would pay a huge fee to the big 12 and be committed to spending a lot more.
Leaving the scene of the accident could be not realizing you scraped someone's bumper in a parking lot. So far this is a non-story. If it comes out that he was doing something else (unlikely) then write a story, for heaven's sake, you can't write a smear story every time somebody belches and does say excuse me. Let's wait and see what the facts are here. Number two, Aston Glas. also looked good at qb in the spring practices. Number three, look at the film of Maty Mauk the incoming freshman, he has a lot of throwing skills that even Franklin doesn't have. 4, Pinkel is more likely to be forgiving and stated so after his own traffic cite last year. If you remember, the last time Pinkel dismissed a quarterback he said he held qbs to a higher standard, BUT the player had been involved in multiple drinking problems situations and after the player transferred he continued to have drinking incidents. Berk has been an Missouri for a while now and hasn't been a high profile problem in the media I've read. Considering how close Glas and Berk are in talent... would Berk be #2 if he was a problem history? Nah
@Gban @Tomn if you look at what the other conferences did acquiring Nebraska, Colorado, Boise State, TCU, West Virginia, and more. It should be plain as day that both Missouri and Texas A&M were both critically important to the SEC staying ahead in talent hunt, pro-placement, tv product, media interest, and much more. These two programs could finally tilt the #1 Power Rating from the Big 12 to the SEC. There is no doubt that both A&M and Missouri's relative scores will look better than TCU's and West Virginia's (for example) WVU lost to Syracuse last year. What do you think is going to happen when the Cuse goes to Missouri this year and faces a second year starter who was responsible for 2,900yds last year? or a defense that held the #1 rushing attack ACC to 35 yards at half-time? I don't expect TCU to finish the big 12 season next year on a 4 game winning streak either, or hold Texas to zero touchdowns. Didn't one of Texas's top receivers transfer to Missouri? Adding Missouri or TA&M by themselves would not have been enough to become or stay #1 in the long term AND it might take two divisions of 8 great teams to stay #1 in this brave new college football world.