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How many teens does it take to kill a delivery driver for an order of chicken wings, fried rice, and $48?
How about six?
2 years, 2 months ago on The Racist Art of Michael D'Antuono
@Txflybyknight @Paul @Paul @djlivefyre @Rowwdy @MaggieMoo
What's funny is, those standards would easily eliminate eye-witness testimony.
"Loose" for "lose" is pretty common, and always bothers me.
@djlivefyre @Pooh Huffy
At the beginning of the walk through, it sounded to me like he saw TM in the yard of a house that had been broken into before, an incident in which the perps escaped.
2 years, 3 months ago on The Racist Art of Michael D'Antuono
If there is one thing I've learned from being in the presence of what seems to be an inexhaustible supply of "Housewives" reality TV - my wife watches them all - is that people who lie all the time will continue to do so even if the cameras are rolling.
I'll bet "Das Kapital" means something to you.
Chicago more dangerous for Americans than Afghanistan:
Adidas selling shoes with shackles attached for that slave look:
I predict some serious income tax problems for the parents, unless Obama is reelected.
I predict it will show a high content of chlorine.
I mentioned it because Zimmerman getting acquitted or released after an SYG hearing might have the same response in the black community as the cops getting acquitted in the Rodney King case.
I hope not, but you can bet someone will do something.
Rodney King dead:
Let's just say O'Mara listens to the interview and thinks DeeDee was lead into her answers by Bernie. My understanding is if she is called to testify, all of her previous statements come into evidence. Why wouldn't he be able to call Bernie to the stand and ask questions about the interview? None of the witnesses to the interview, or listening to the tape, or reading a transcript, could answer questions concerning why he did what he did.
I agree that ASA's wouldn't normally put themselves in a position to be a witness, but Crump had raised a stink about the Sanford PD, and maybe it was the only way to get her statement, at least voluntarily.
@SteveDinMD @Pooh Huffy
Make that "testify as a defense witness" to answer questions about his interview.
Steve, do you have any idea how ofter an ASA would be out interviewing witnesses like DeeDee him/herself? Do prosecutors generally interview witnesses, or do they leave that to the police.
I'm trying to figure out if Bernie will have to testify as a witness if DeeDee takes the stand.
I GZ was a wombat...wait, I don't know what a "wombat" is. I'll have to think of something else...
@ConcernedCitizen @eclecticsandra @AghastinFL
Well, when Bernie talked to her he didn't know TM had purchased a cigar. If he had known, I have a feeling that DeeDee would have heard a lot of smoke before hearing the grass, and it would have clearly sounded like tobacco smoke. :)
He could have smoked that whole cigar walking and waiting under the awning.
@Lou da Jew @AghastinFL
Great.! If the prosecution puts DeeDee on the stand, Bernie can be called as a defense witness and be grilled, one leading question and comment at a time. O'Mara can take his time and go through the entire interview. No wonder Corey got herself another ASA.
@patti is ticked
I think perjury prosecutions are relatively rare. I think this is just more evidence this is a political prosecution.
Citizens are free to racially profile as much as they want. It is law enforcement that has to deal with it, not us.
Al Qaeda in Somalia has apparently lifted the NBPP Zimmerman strategy. They are offering 10 camels to anyone who can find the "whereabouts" of Obama, and 20 chickens for the same information on Hillary.
I saw a comment today that said if Obama didn't turn things around pretty quick, it is the Democrats who are going to be saying he was born in Kenya.
This is simply insanity. The song the audience paid to hear is titled, "Nigga in Paris". Now, we are supposed to accept that white people can't mention the title of the song? Maybe they should change the song title to , "Race-Baiting in Paris".
@Rickart @stobberdobber @Aussie54 @Lou da Jew @realitycheck @mattstate @Rowwdy @Paul Hue @AghastinFL @goofey @eclecticsandra @snapsbacula @Andybinga @BertDilbert @voiceofinsanity
Sounds like the President may have a flask in his jacket pocket.
The rules seem to say Corey really is the low-life many of us suspected. It seems impossible the probable cause affidavit she submitted could withstand even the mildest scrutiny.
I have a feeling, like many others, that O'Mara has more than just bond on his mind for the next hearing. Once he reviews the discovery and sees there in nothing new except for a bogus ID of TM's voice by the mother that the FBI says is impossible, and DeeDee's statements that contained more content from the ADA than from DeeDee, I think he will point out that it leaves the case right back where it was when the mob came to town. And that is no case at all, and no reliable evidence that to refute Z's statement it was self-defense.
So, if justice is served, Z should walk and Corey and Nifong can get a paper route together.
I think it is just synthetic pot giving people the mega-munchies. :)
No sergeants in the Navy. Non-commissioned officers in the Navy are called Petty Officers.
Permission to leave denied. :)
@Paul Hue @ConcernedCitizen
The only way to understand what the liberal media is doing is to substitute "Republican" for " white". Then it makes complete sense. The name "Zimmerman" got them started, and they have stuck with it as best as they can by switching their initial impression that he was white to "white Hispanic", et al. They won't drop the "white" because without it they aren't interested in it.
I'm afraid I disagree. The Supreme Court says the cops can lie to further their investigations, which gives them carte blanche to lie. One example:
There was one famous case that has been on Dateline in which a father was murdered and his son was told he wasn't actually dead when they got there, and the father told them before he died the son had shot him.
The son then confessed because he said his father would never lie about anything, even though he was innocent. It took many years, but the son eventually got released and the obvious guilty party was finally put on trial and convicted. It was the guy who was the last person to see him alive and left town within a couple days of the murder.
I'm surprised he didn't mention the police don't have to tell you the truth about anything, not ever the results of a polygraph.
Hopefully the judge is just trying to get Z's attention. This case could easily go on for years - because of the potential for a hung jury or two - so the judge may just want to impress on Z the need to follow the rules to remain free.
Jeralyn has just put up a post, complete with supporting laws and links, that says Z can get SYG immunity at trial, with the burden of proof on the prosecution, even if he fails to get immunity at the SYG pretrial hearing. I believe that is the opposite of what we have been hearing for a long time.
Can Z argue he had a contract with the donors not to use the money for bail?
Corey going for Jean Valjean II.
Are you volunteering?
I don't recall any questions about her transferring money.
@Cake or Death @annoyedbeyond @SteveDinMD
They said at their press conference he didn't owe them any money. They didn't say he knew that. In fact, he wouldn't talk to them.
@BertDilbert @SteveDinMD @annoyedbeyond
What happens when she tells the judge she was simply in over her head, Z was in jail, she didn't understand how Pay Pal worked, and none of it made any sense to her so she turned it over to someone else?
@eclecticsandra @Paul Hue @curiositymakesasmartcat @dontknowme
I see your point, but they are putting him in jail.
@annoyedbeyond @Ni123 @deanno
Yeah, I'm disappointed, too. de la Rionda can't be trusted, so the truth won't come out until the next bond hearing.
@Paul Hue @curiositymakesasmartcat @dontknowme
I guess i don't understand that. Either one has the right to remain silent, or not. The reason for the right to remain silent is to avoid incriminating yourself. I wouldn't think it is fair to say you have the right not to incriminate yourself unless it becomes necessary, in the eyes of the court, for you to do so.
I'm not buying that the judge is going to help ring up Z for murder 2 because of some financial misunderstandings at his bond hearing. (Right now, we don't know any more than that. We've had a prosecution with no defense because it was a sneak attack.)
What was Z supposed to do? Does anyone know? Does he have the right to remain silent? The right to not be compelled to testify against his wife? I keep asking, but no one seems to know exactly what was expected of him. There are 4 days of their conversations that weren't presented yesterday. What did they talk about? How much money was in which account and was it available or pending transfer? What does the brother-in-law who de la Rionda didn't want to talk to know?
I'm puzzled why everyone is saying Z lied when he didn't say anything. I've asked, but no one seems to know what he was supposed to do. Did he lose the right to remain silent and the right not to be compelled to testify against his wife for some reason? I' m really puzzled about this.
@eclecticsandra @Aussie54 @Ni123
Just a warning here Sandra. You don't want people to know who you are in real life if you are going to post on true crime forums. The sociopaths on an anti-Amanda Knox forum actually started a letter writing campaign and got a scientist who supported Amanda in his off hours fired. And, there is much, much more from that and other cases.
Oh, when she was acquitted, he got his job back and settled a wrongful termination suit for a number he was happy with.
Clearly he wouldn't have left out anything inculpatory.
I think it is more probable he doesn't have a case. The evidence looks indisputable, so he must have left something exculpatory out.
Why do you think he didn't bring charges?