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Drew Miller has looked impressive plenty of times, especially last season when he was putting up goals and being a beast on the penalty kill. It's been more or less the same this season, except not as much of the goal scoring.
10 months ago on Today I Was Wrong About Everything
Seeing as the rumor is Doan wants $7.5 million a year for 4 years, I don't really blame Holland for not pulling the trigger. If Doan wants to make ballpark what he got in Phoenix, I'd be happy to have him.
1 year, 4 months ago on It Won't Be Doan | July
1 year, 5 months ago on Wings Should Offer Weber A Contract Like Noone's Ever Seen: $12M+ | July
@moorecha @DetCapC19 Scoring was an issue at times. We did better this season than last, but there were times when we struggled. Like when Datsyuk was hurt and when Franzen decided to nap.
It's not our #1 need, but it needs to be shored up a bit.
@magnum9 I don't disagree that any star is a star, I just disagree whether or not their star quality can outweigh goon behavior. In the examples of Weber and Chelios I think you can argue yes. For Pronger, Tootoo and others, I think you can't.
You and I are, for the most part, on the exact same page. Our difference is where we draw the line. Or rather, who we put on what side of our life.
@DetCapC19 So I guess thinking opportunity costs... Is Shea Weber worth 12 million + Shane Doan and/or Alexander Semin + 4 first round draft picks
@DetCapC19 If you drop Mursak and Emmerton, prior to Quincey and Abdelkader resigning just shy of 6 million. So you have to hope their combined salaries don't beat that. Or not sign them.
I don't think we could afford Semin or Doan if we get Weber
@Twig Sorry, meant bottom 6 forwards.
@ThroatShot So you're doing the same thing you accuse me of doing (only hearing the things you want to hear so you can argue) instead of addressing my point, the same thing you expect me to do?
I've addressed your point - you think Chara and Weber are on the same level of "heinous" behavior, and I'm trying to get you to understand they may not be by asking you a question, which you refuse to answer.
But okay, I guess I'll live up to your debate standards even if you can't be bothered.
@Twig Quincey, Weber, Ericsson, Kronwall, Smith, Kindl and White give you the 7 defense depth you'd want. If you let Quincey walk, who do you bring in to be #7? It has to be someone you can trust to play.
Which top 6 forwards can you part with?
Assuming we sign Weber to a 12 million deal, that leaves us with 4.8 million and change in cap space. We have Kyle Quincey (through arbitration) and Justin Abdelkader's contract to figure out.
What else, if anything, does Kenny need to do?
@ThroatShot A spelling error =/= a factual error. And is what happened with Chara more heinous because of the degree of injury? Because you would be hard pressed to argue that Chara intended to smash his face into a metal pole, whereas you would not be hard pressed to argue that Weber intended to small Zetterberg's face into a glass wall.
@ThroatShot Sorry, didn't know getting facts straight was unimportant to arguments.
@ThroatShot If you're referring to the Paciorretty (spelling?) hit, Chara was not suspended.
@magnum9 Never said that about Chelios. Never said it about Weber. I've said it about Pronger and Tootoo.
Weber could do what he did because he's about 6 inches and 40 pounds heavier than Zetterberg and he did a stupid thing.
I agree with wanting the Red Wings to bulk and toughen up. I don't mind bringing in guys like Weber to do it. But I want our tough guys to have skills other than being goons. Weber has skills other than being a goon, so much so I wouldn't call him a goon.
@magnum9 By the time Chelios came to Detroit, most of that stuff was behind him, as I recall. And comparing the behavior of Chris Chelios in the 80's and early 90's is a bit of an anachronism anyhow
@Twig @magnum9 @freakazoid0587 @DetCapC19 The difference between Weber and Tootoo, in my eyes, is Tootoo is a dirty player. Weber is a good player who did a dirty thing.
I'd be more willing to forgive Weber than Tootoo
@NickKehagias As I wrote, Doan is probably going to cost us less to get than Semin. If we get Weber at 11 or 12 million, we might have to go the more economical route (assuming we can get him).I don't know if we'd want to trade Emmerton AND Abby because they both can be good 4th line centers. I don't know if that'd be a job Tatar is suited for or not. One or the other might work. I'd hate to see Miller go because of how awesome he was filling in for Eaves. But I guess if that's what'd have to happen, it'd be interesting.
@moorecha What? That we could have Lebda? He is an unrestricted free agent.
1 year, 5 months ago on The Price Is Right: Quincey Edition | July
I don't really like Kyle Quincey, but I know that we need guys on the blueline, and it could be worse. We could have Meech or Lebda.
I'm guessing 4.35 million.