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Tanzania is one of the 10 out of 18 countries where more (6.5%) of the circumcised men had HIV than the non-circumcised (5.6%) when USAID surveyed them in 2005. If Mr Keraryo has different figures from a different time, that just shows circumcision and HIV are unconnected. Note that Rukwa has less slightly less circumcision than Simiyu, but much more HIV. These are the kinds of statistics you can prove anything with.

If men want to have their (best) parts cut off, let them, but to be protected from HIV they still have to use condoms, so why bother. And doing to babies is a human rights violation.

5 months, 3 weeks ago on More men need to face cut

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"' Circumcision is a part of Islamic teaching and is recommended for both male and female,” MUI deputy secretary-general Amirsyah Tambunan said."

So much for Islamic teaching then.

8 months, 3 weeks ago on Conversation @ http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/01/28/calls-mount-government-retract-support-fgm.html

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The price is not just in dollars. Most circumcised men pay a price without knowing it in lost sexual pleasure, but some know it. There's no dotted line and no rule about how much to take, so no guarantee that he will turn out like his father. Some pay more, with botched outcomes, complications, occasionally - and scandalously, we don't know how often - with their lives.

1 year, 2 months ago on Doctors shocked at price of circumcision at Alaskan hospital, stop performing procedures there

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There is nothing in the Qu'ran about genital cutting, male or female, only some dubious ahadith. Cut (the best) part of your own genitals off if you want (heck, cut them all off, be my guest) but in the name of compassion and mercy, leave children's genitals alone.

1 year, 3 months ago on Conversation @ http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/06/29/circumcised-cop-shop-too-much-kids.html

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There is nothing in the Qu'ran about gennital cutting, male or female, only some dubious ahadith. Cut (the best) part of your own genitals off if you want (heck, cut them all off, be my guest) but in the name of compassion and mercy, leave children's genitals alone.

1 year, 3 months ago on Conversation @ http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/06/29/circumcised-cop-shop-too-much-kids.html

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@Macarpen@KarenArguedas
"more die while getting their tonsils taken out."
Have you figures for that? Shamefully, we have no figures for circumcision deaths, but a recent Brazilian study found one death in 7700 circumcisions. A court recently ruled that patients have to be warned of half that risk (and that was "only" loss of sight after an eye operation).  And nowadays tonsillectomy is only done when it is necessary.

"More die from the flu and even the common cold, than dying from a circumcision."
Probably true, but we don't deliberately infect children with flu or the common cold, in fact quite the reverse.  That is one terrible analogy. The ONLY thing colds and flu have in common with circumcision is that both can kill!

"As for the religious- I am commanded by my G-d to circumcise my children." Here are contact details for more than 80 celebrants of non-surgical baby naming ceremonies (Brisot Shalom), 40 of them rabbis, one of the rabbis a professor of religious studies, in 30 US states and several other countries, including Israel: http://tinyurl.com/britshalom

1 year, 7 months ago on Extremists, Repeat After Me.

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@Macarpen@tarab76@Simply Sarah@NajiWench@YeomanRomanThe Belgian study was a convenience sample - they handed out survey forms to men in the street - and relies on self-reporting. The small number of circumcised men just follows the small number of circumcised men in Belgium. The Frisch study in Denmark has the same problem, but a much larger, more randomly selected sample. The result is presented graphically here: http://http://www.circumstitions.com/Sexuality.html#denmark with a link back to the original study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=21672947
A striking aspect is the desperate attempt of circumcision advocate Brian Morris to prevent publication. Who are the real extremists?

1 year, 8 months ago on Extremists, Repeat After Me.

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@robmadrid Can't everyone agree that it's choice for the owner of the penis? (When he is old enough to have one, of course - he'll almost always choose to keep it all.)

"Complications"? So two maternal uncles had something the matter with their foreskins. What does that prove about his? Cutting normal, healthy parts of the body to prevent something that happened to relations would be universally regarded as bizarre and foolish if it were any other part of the body. Why is the foreskin alone the only part of the body that is fair game for this kind of thinking?

"It's also cultural. Americans circumcise." There is nothing about American culture that makes it imperative to circumcise - and actually only about half do. The other half of Americans can stop circumcising, and then Americans will have stopped circumcising - just as Australians and New Zealanders have stopped circumcising (with no ill-effects).

(And Europeans don't circumcise, not because it is part of European culture not to circumcise, any more than it is part of European culture not to tattoo babies - they just don't.)

1 year, 8 months ago on Extremists, Repeat After Me.

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@Macarpen @Simply Sarah @NajiWench @YeomanRoman Cutting parts of children's genitals off is not comparable with giving them fruit juice. In fact it is not comparable with any of the other things that parents do to or for their children. Lacking religious motivation or serious medical need, it is now ONLY done to a majority of babies in the USA - to very slim or residual minorities in the rest of the developed world. It is only a choice for parents because the medical profession makes it a choice for them, and they only do that because they were pushed back from doing it willy-nilly by the introduction of informed consent law in 1972. There are sill plenty of cases of parents being strongly coerced to do it.

Saying this is not a choice for parents is not extreme, any more than it is extreme to say that cutting the exactly equivalent part of a baby girl's genitals off (the clitoral prepuce or hood, not the actual clitoris, the exact equivalent of the male prepuce - surgically, with pain relief) is not a decision for parents. Nobody has ever bothered to produce any scientific evidence that that is traumatic or affects female sexuality. That is now not even legal in the US or most of the developed world. That is a much closer analogy to male circumcision than apple juice is.

1 year, 8 months ago on Extremists, Repeat After Me.

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@AmyPearce"The ol' snip snip". If you watch any of the many online videos of it being done you won't call it that again.
 * With a Gomco, Winkelman or Mogen Clamp it's sliced - and a Mogen may take more than just the foreskin, which has led to successful claims worth millions and the Mogen company going out of business.

* With a Plastibell or PrePex it's crushed and allowed to die.    

* With an Accu-circ it's chopped. 

    - but never "snipped".

" I never thought twice about it. It’s just what you did."
Is it extreme to ask people to think twice about it? Even to make it something you don't do (as it is in all of the developed world - except the USA)? We are after all not asking people to do anything, but to do NOTHING. Is that so extreme?

1 year, 8 months ago on Extremists, Repeat After Me.

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Forcibly circumcising a man is very like raping a woman - violating them in the most intimate way. It is a disgusting practice and it must stop. Any culture that requires this needs to change, just as cultures that required slavery had to change. No custom or culture is perfect or unchangable. And the claim that it reduces transmission of HIV/AIDS is doubtful. In any case, it is up to the man himself to decide, when he is old enough, whether he wants to do that to protect himself.

2 years, 4 months ago on Forceful circumcision in Mbale: Police fire teargas

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Circumcision is a dangerous distraction from the fight against HIV/AIDS. In 10 out of 18 countries for which USAID has figures, more of the circumcised men have HIV than the non-circumcised.  Rwanda is one, where 2.5% of the circumcised men had HIV in 2010 but 2.2% of the intact. This should at least be explained before blundering on with mass circumcision campaigns. The "60% reduction" figure is waved about like a talisman, but it is entirely based on 73 circumcised men who did not get HIV less than two years after 5,400 men were circumcised, compared to 64 who did. There are many reasons that could be so other than a direct effect of circumcision. Women in particular should be skeptical. A study in Uganda started to show that circumcising men INcreases the risk to them, but it was cut short for no good reason before that could be confirmed. Condoms protect both partners, but circumcised men will be harder to persuade to wear them.

2 years, 4 months ago on Gicumbi men rush for circumcision

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