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@Jooseppi @Lost Ones @Grolgar do we know that non-repeat offender mark will be at 80mil for sure or will the new TV deals (which I don't remember when they happen) possibly affect that?
2 years, 5 months ago on Scott Brooks closing in on new contract with the Thunder
@FREE_COLE I was just kinda hoping that he would only get 2-3 years since I had just reluctantly accepted that Brooks would be back.
@DennisBerry I'd agree he didn't have the best rookie year and it pry won't be enough to get him but if Williams is going to be successful it is going to be at PF. He will never play PF for the Wolves so they have to try to get something for him. Pek is nothing like Gasol and doesn't have ability to get to the elbow and distribute like Gasol (important part of Adelman's offense)
@FREE_COLE he's awful isn't he? I used to live in that area and have a lot of good friends up there still so I see my fair share of Wolves ball. Their wing players are just awful. When Chase Budinger is a significant upgrade for you, you have problems.
@DennisBerry @FREE_COLE @ILikePancakes just read @Jooseppi comment below and understand why that wouldn't even be necessary.
What do you guys think about the possibility of Minny adding Gasol? I know he's soft but playing in Adelman's system I think he could be a really nice piece for them the next couple years.
@FREE_COLE @DennisBerry @ILikePancakes Agree with Cole here. Remember, MN only gave up a 2nd rounder to get Beasley. What has he done to prove he's worth more than that?
Why the eff is it so stupid in here lately? If I wanted to deal with that I'd go to some garbage ESPN forum. Please, for the love of God...no more blatant stupidity.
2 years, 5 months ago on Thunder select Perry Jones III with the 28th pick
@Ozarkhick my theory is that Kahn was very innovative but then quit smoking crack thus destroying his genius.
2 years, 5 months ago on Pre-draft Primer: Five big questions for draft night:
Anybody else watching SC when they showed the Hornets war room a couple minutes ago? It looked to me like the guy who's computer screen you could kinda see was on Chad Ford's mock draft. If so, that makes me chuckle.
@Grolgar @OBoymuzik with the new CBA it remains to be seen if the Spurs model is sustainable. So, while I agree that there is a good chance that OKC regrets dealing Harden if they do, we must all admit that because there are new rules everyone is trying to figure out exactly what works when trying to build a team. Everything is a bit different now
2 years, 5 months ago on Thunder have talked about moving up to get Bradley Beal
@Jooseppi I heard he's kind of a diva though..he only wants to sign with a team that will accommodate his posse of chairs
@Daniel Plainview @KS Storm Chaser I think if you come calling with the right pieces pretty much everyone except NOLA would listen.
@KS Storm Chaser @Daniel Plainview why trade up to 2 to get MKG if you could get him at 4 though? The less you have to give up the better
@FF_pickups ha I was listening to that same segment and I'm pretty sure there wasn't an intelligent thing said the entire time
@Daniel Plainview Gordon is only there for 2 years and it's not like the Cats are worried about getting to the salary cap. They could accommodate both for 2 years or even trade Gordon next year.
@Daniel Plainview @SammyThunderer I don't have a ton of faith in Henson either. Not sure he'll be anything but a career backup (I know that's easy for us to say about any of these guys)
@FF_pickups @Jooseppi @jdstorm @SammyThunderer True but it still makes no sense to give up Harden to do it. Let's say for example that we know for a fact that Sullinger is going to end up being the 2nd best player in this draft, but we also know he probably isn't going in the lottery and that he definitely isn't going in the top 5. If OKC were to trade up to #2 and take him and he ends up great does that make it a good deal? Not necessarily because they could have given up less to get him later in the draft.
@Jooseppi @jdstorm @FF_pickups @SammyThunderer that's also not fair. The 2nd best player is very rarely the 2nd pick.
@Grolgar @DavidAdams That's kinda where I'm at with this too. I like Ibaka but to me it seems like it's easier to find a shot blocking forward than it is to find another Harden. I'm not sure if there's another shooting guard under 30 better than Harden in the entire league.
I have a hard time believing that anything will come of this.
@OBoyzOld Man @Prye05 Makes sense. Mullens has a unique skill set that hasn't been seen here since...well...Byron Mullens. Think we could trade Harden for him straight up?
2 years, 5 months ago on DT Mailbag: New jerseys?
@Prye05 I'm trying to think of what else the Bobcats could throw in. Maybe Detroit's 2013 1st rounder? It almost certainly has to be a pick since the Cats don't exactly have a ton of players worth trading for.
@alvarex @Iceberg Slim Agreed. I just can't imagine moving any of these guys when they are set up for a legit title run next year. Can't blame the front office for thinking a few moves ahead though
Welp that was a disappointing end to a great season. Still bummed out right now, but once again the Thunder gave this city a terrific year.
2 years, 5 months ago on Shattered Dreams: OKC's season ends, 121-106
@Eggs_Benedict @Jooseppi yeah I've got further north to go than Nebraska, it's just that it's the most desolate part of my journey. Still seems strange to me how much of that state doesn't even have cell phone reception ha
2 years, 5 months ago on Horrific start costs the Thunder Game 2, 100-96
@dbenge @Eggs_Benedict @OBoymuzik @Jooseppi but my point is, when it's Perk getting the offensive board there is a pretty decent chance the Thunder aren't going to be getting any points out of it. Obviously getting them isn't a bad thing but I think the benefit of being small and matching up with Battier outweighs the potential benefit of Perk's offensive boards.
@Jooseppi @Eggs_Benedict I see no downside to this solution. Unfortunately for me I've got quite the drive to endure tomorrow. At least central Nebraska has nothing remotely close to sports radio so I'll have about 5 hours where I won't have to hear about it.
@dbenge @OBoymuzik @Jooseppi but does grabbing an offensive board really mean a whole lot when you turn it over or throw up a shot that has about 5% chance to go in immediately afterwards?
@Eggs_Benedict why do we have to wait 3 days to see it though!? I feel the same way I did when I was 5 and my older brother would beat me in 21 but I'd insist on a rematch until I won. I want game 3 and I want it now!
@OBoymuzik @Zach99 I agree with Oboy, the team could definitely start of better and I'm not a fan of changing your starters (at least when you've had the same starting lineup pretty much all year except when guys were hurt) this late in the year, BUT Perk definitely has to play less with the Thunder going small more.
OKC went big for what I think everyone can agree was far too long...and got out rebounded. That is a problem
@Lost Ones I agree. I never quite understood how everyone was saying that Brooks out-coached the pants off Pop. He made some great adjustments but his rotation was still terrible AND like you said, it took him 2 full games to figure it out. I did think that the Spurs series could be the turning point for him though. It's not too late to make changes and I'm going to try to keep from having "the sky is falling" mentality because of 1 game, but it's still incredibly frustrating.
I feel like Scott Brooks was trolling me the SA series. "Let me make some adjustments and make everyone thing I've turned the corner" then we get to this series and he pulls this. Somebody talk me off the "fire Brooks Ledge." I know it's ridiculous but dang I can't handle seeing these matchups.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/168311/do-you-know-your-enemy-why-we-should-all-root-miami-heat-beat-oklahoma-city-thunder ...Did you know that Seattlans are awesome because they fought against corporate corruption and wouldn't give Bennett money! Never mind that they built 2 new stadiums for their other teams. I feel bad for the fans in Seattle, but this Sonicgate stuff is getting a bit ridiculous. Somebody was gonna pay Schultz for the team and take the team where they pleased. Sports franchises are businesses in the U.S. and they are owned by private entities. It gives the teams leverage to get what they want because if you don't give in they can always relocate. So, teams move, fans get sad, the new fans get happy and life moves on.
2 years, 5 months ago on Some things never change: The new Thunder era
@ou_sas @lemur120 Sorry I should have been more specific in my reply, I wasn't talking about you personally I could see where you were going with your post, by "we" I meant NBA fans as a whole. Wasn't trying to accuse you of being a Lebron hater or anything like that. I was just trying to say that if everyone that pays attention to the NBA just accepted that he'll never be MJ (and that there is nothing wrong with that) we'd be better off.
2 years, 5 months ago on Five early thoughts on Thunder-Heat
@ou_sas @lemur120 I respect your opinion, but personally I can't hold something against the guy that he did 9 years ago (that's when a good chunk of the MJ/chosen one nonsense happened). I can understand holding "The Decision" against him still as that was more recent and beyond stupid, but I think it's all time we accept Lebron for what he is and stop trying to hold him to the MJ standard (which nobody will probably ever meet)
@SouthTexasThunderfan85 Miami is a LOT better defensively than SA though. If I'm not mistaken (I usually am) they also forced a lot more turnovers per game during the season than SA did. Could be a factor
@lemur120 I agree with what you're saying and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone that knows basketball that would disagree, however, (I can't speak for Royce I can only tell you how I interpret his comments as a longtime reader) I think the purpose of those comments is to describe the way the public as a whole will view Lebron rather than describing reality. The fact is Lebron is the heavily scrutinized athlete in world, and if he loses to the Thunder led by Durant, morons like Skip will will take the narrative laid out by Royce above and take it to the next level. Not sure if that's what he meant, but that's how I took it.
@thelaughingwiseman I have had this $*#! eating grin on my face since the game ended. I can't stop smiling. Crazy feeling and I can't wait til Tuesday!
2 years, 5 months ago on A moment in the making: OKC wins in six over the Spurs, 107-99
I really should go to bed. Just can't. So wired!
@Tronchaser @andyworcester @zuuz I don't really like seeing owners hoist the trophy first at any point. I know they put a lot of money and resources into building a winner, but I guess I'd just rather see the players get the first go round.
AHHHHHHHH!!!!! Had to get that outta my system.
2 years, 5 months ago on KD takes over as OKC evens the series, 109-103
anybody know what the pace number for the game ended up being? Hollinger wrote an article about how insanely hard the Spurs are to beat when the game has a pace of 96 possessions or more.
@El Prez @FF_pickups @Old Man Game thing that bothered me about that play is I felt that Harden waited a bit too long trying to shake Ginobli before going to set a screen for KD. (they ran that same play 2 ways. If Russ could get the ball to Harden he would set the pin down. If not, Harden would go over and do it) Because Harden kept trying to get open the shot clock wound down (and Russ pry bailed on the play too early), and they ended up with a turnover.
@yehoshuagardner @SB718 Thanks, I couldn't remember for sure how many it was. Was 4 the number of pts in the 2nd half? Regardless, I think you're right. Bynum seems more than willing to lie down when things get tough. Reminds me of the kid at the park who pouts and takes his ball home when he doesn't get his way.
2 years, 6 months ago on KD ices the Lakers as OKC takes Game 4, 103-100
@SB718 did you hear his comments after the game? First words out of his mouth were "I didn't get the ball." As soon as he stops touching the ball he also stops boarding. I think he only had 4 in the second half.
@loplopol I guess I could have worded that part better. Obviously he gets frustrated, but he's never afraid to keep coming back at you (he proved that again tonight). I guess my point is that the difference between the two isn't some magical "clutch" factor that we can't define, it's the fact that KD will keep doing his thing while Lebron changes his game when things go against him.
I'll say the same thing here I said to Royce on Twitter in regards to KD vs LBJ...KD is the more resilient player. KD doesn't seem to get down on himself when something bad happens while LBJ seems to be more of a frontrunner. When things are going his way he's fine but when something goes wrong he starts to shy away.